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    New York hospitals treating coronavirus patients with vitamin C

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-yo...vitamin-c/amp/

    New York hospitals treating coronavirus patients with vitamin C
    By Lorena Mongelli and Bruce Golding

    March 24, 2020 | 5:04pm

    Seriously sick coronavirus patients in New York state’s largest hospital system are being given massive doses of vitamin C — based on promising reports that it’s helped people in hard-hit China, The Post has learned.

    Dr. Andrew G. Weber, a pulmonologist and critical-care specialist affiliated with two Northwell Health facilities on Long Island, said his intensive-care patients with the coronavirus immediately receive 1,500 milligrams of intravenous vitamin C.

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    https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-yo...vitamin-c/amp/




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    "“The patients who received vitamin C did significantly better than those who did not get vitamin C,” he said."

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    That is excellent news!
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    BUMP
    Proverbs 29:18
    "Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he."

    Hosea 4:6
    "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.” ~ Charles Dickens

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    New York hospitals giving patients 16 times the daily recommended dose of vitamin C to fight coronavirus

    by John Gage
    | March 24, 2020 07:52 PM

    New York state hospitals have been giving some coronavirus patients large doses of vitamin C to combat the disease.

    The New York Post reported Tuesday that some patients in the state were being given does of 1,500 milligrams of vitamin C immediately, with reoccurring doses totaling 16 times the daily recommended amount by the National Institutes of Health.

    "The patients who received vitamin C did significantly better than those who did not get vitamin C," said Dr. Andrew Weber, a pulmonologist and critical-care specialist in New York.

    Weber said the treatments were started based on tests done on coronavirus patients in Shanghai, China. "It helps a tremendous amount, but it is not highlighted because it’s not a sexy drug," he said.

    A spokesman with Northwell Health facilities, which operates 23 hospitals in New York, said the vitamin was "widely used" in treating the coronavirus "as the clinician decides," spokesman Jason Molinet said.

    Weber said vitamin C helps the body fight against inflammatory overreaction the body can get from infection when it has the coronavirus.

    So far, nearly 15,000 people in New York have confirmed cases of the coronavirus, and at least 131 have died, according to Johns Hopkins University.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ht-coronavirus
    Proverbs 29:18
    "Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he."

    Hosea 4:6
    "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.” ~ Charles Dickens

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    Shhhh! India and China will cut off our supply of vitamin C...

    The vitamin C is administered in addition to such medicines as the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, the antibiotic azithromycin, various biologics and blood thinners, Weber said.
    Sounds like a winning combination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Shhhh! India and China will cut off our supply of vitamin C...
    Probably why Trump has been giving Roche shoutouts.

    Manufacture that stuff at home! Jerbs!



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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    Probably why Trump has been giving Roche shoutouts.

    Manufacture that stuff at home! Jerbs!
    Can you imagine what would happen if Trump said that Vitamin C helps fight coronavirus? Store shelves will be emptied in a matter of hours.

    I have a good supply of C and D right now. Very low on B-Complex though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Can you imagine what would happen if Trump said that Vitamin C helps fight coronavirus? Store shelves will be emptied in a matter of hours.

    I have a good supply of C and D right now. Very low on B-Complex though.
    I'm pretty sure the hydrogen peroxide inhalation therapy would kill off whatever virus we have much faster.

    Large doses of Vitamin C create H2O2 in your body.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1885574/

    C is already hard to find on shelves/nearly non-existent and everyone bought all the hydrogen peroxide already for sanitizing surfaces. Supply chains appear broken or at least lacking greatly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    C is already hard to find on shelves/nearly non-existent and everyone bought all the hydrogen peroxide already for sanitizing surfaces. Supply chains appear broken or at least lacking greatly.
    I was able to pick some up last week after I saw your other thread on Vitamin C. Thanks for the heads up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurk View Post
    I was able to pick some up last week after I saw your other thread on Vitamin C. Thanks for the heads up
    Yea! Welcome to the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Can you imagine what would happen if Trump said that Vitamin C helps fight coronavirus? Store shelves will be emptied in a matter of hours.

    I have a good supply of C and D right now. Very low on B-Complex though.
    Actually I think the left would immediately claim it was fake quackery. Half the country would buy vitamin c and the other half would run from it like it was poison.
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    Successful vitamin C treatment of patients with COVID-19 infection

    by: Jonathan Landsman | March 30, 2020

    Recently, the New York Post reported how vitamin C was being used “successfully” by a physician at a New York hospital. But, the overall media coverage of this news has been mild – to say the least.

    To make matters worse, I know of many healthcare providers that are still unclear about how much vitamin C is necessary or how often the amounts should be given – especially as it relates to helping someone infected with the coronavirus.

    But, just in case you still have doubts about the effectiveness of vitamin C against viruses, please read carefully this press release (below) by the Orthomolecular Medicine

    News Service.
    Will the media or conventional medicine ever fully understand the significance of vitamin C?

    (Press Release) A group of medical doctors, healthcare providers and scientists met online March 17, 2020, to discuss the use of high dose intravenous vitamin C (IVC) in the treatment of moderate to severe cases of Covid-19 patients. The key guest was Dr. Enqian Mao, chief of emergency medicine department at Ruijin Hospital, a major hospital in Shanghai, affiliated with the Joatong University College of Medicine. Dr. Mao is also a member of the Senior Expert Team at the Shanghai Public Health Center, where all Covid-19 patients have been treated. In addition, Dr. Mao co-authored the Shanghhai Guidelines for the Treatment of Covid-19 Infection, an official document endorsed by the Shanghai Medical Association and the Shanghai city government.

    Dr. Mao has been using high-dose dose IVC to treat patients with acute pancreatitis, sepsis, surgical wound healing and other medical conditions for over 10 years. When Covid-19 broke out, he and other experts thought of vitamin C and recommended IVC for the treatment of moderate to severe cases of Covid-19 patients. The recommendation was accepted early in the epidemic by the Shanghai Expert Team. All serious or critically ill Covid-19 patients in the Shanghai area were treated in Shanghai Public Health Center, for a total of 358 Covid-19 patients as of March 17th, 2020.

    Dr. Mao stated that his group treated ~50 cases of moderate to severe cases of Covid-19 infection with high dose IVC. The IVC dosing was in the range of 10,000 mg – 20,000 mg a day for 7-10 days, with 10,000 mg for moderate cases and 20,000 for more severe cases, determined by pulmonary status (mostly the oxygenation index) and coagulation status. All patients who received IVC improved and there was no mortality. Compared to the average of a 30-day hospital stay for all Covid-19 patients, those patients who received high dose IVC had a hospital stay about 3-5 days shorter than the overall patients. Dr. Mao discussed one severe case in particular who was deteriorating rapidly. He gave a bolus of 50,000 mg IVC over a period of 4 hours. The patient’s pulmonary (oxygenation index) status stabilized and improved as the critical care team watched in real time. There were no side effects reported from any of the cases treated with high dose IVC.

    Among the international experts who attended today’s video conference were: Dr. Atsuo Yanagisawa, formerly professor of medicine at the Kyorin University, Tokyo, Japan, and the president of the International Society for Orthomolecular Medicine; Dr. Jun Matsuyama of Japan; Dr. Michael J Gonzalez, professor at University of Puerto Rico Medical Sciences, Dr. Jean Drisko, professor of medicine, and Dr. Qi Chen, professor of pharmacology, both at the Kansas University Medical School, Dr. Alpha “Berry” Fowler, professor of pulmonary and critical care medicine, Virginia Commonwealth University, Dr. Maurice Beer and Asa Kitfield, both from NutriDrip and Integrative Medical NY, New York City; Dr. Hong Zhang of Beijing; William T. Penberthy, PhD of CME Scribe, Florida; Ilyes Baghli, MD, president of the Algerian Society of Nutrition and Orthomolecular Medicine (SANMO); Drs. Mignonne Mary and Charles Mary Jr, of the Remedy Room, New Orleans; Dr. Selvam Rengasamy, president of SAHAMM, Malaysia. I, Richard Cheng, MD, PhD of Cheng Integrative Health Center of South Carolina, and Senior Advisor to ShenZhen Medical Association and Shenzhen BaoAn Central Hospital, coordinated this conference.

    Albeit a brief meeting of less than 45 minutes due to Dr. Mao’s limited time availability, the audience thanked Dr. Mao for his time and sharing and wished to keep the communication channel open and also able to talk to other clinicians working at the front line against Covid-19.

    In a separate meeting, I had the honor to talk to Sheng Wang, M.D., Ph.D., Professor of Critical Care Medicine of Shanghai 10th Hospital, Tongji University College of Medicine at Shanghai China, who also served at the Senior Clinical Expert Team of the Shanghai Covid-19 Control and Prevention Team. There are three lessons that we learned about this Covid-19 infection, Dr. Wang said:

    1. Early and high-dose IVC is quite helpful in helping Covid-19 patients. The data is still being finalized and the formal papers will be submitted for publication as soon as they are complete.

    2. Covid-19 patients appear to have a high rate of hyper-coagulability. Among the severe cases, ~40% severe cases showed hyper-coagulability, whereas the number among the mild to moderate cases were 15-20%. Heparin was used among those with coagulation issues.

    3. The third important lesson learned is the importance for the healthcare team of gearing up to wear protective clothing at the earliest opportunity for intubation and other emergency rescue measures. We found that if we waited until a patient developed the full-blown signs for intubation, then got ready to intubate, we would lose the precious minutes. So the treatment team should lower the threshold for intubation, to allow proper time (~15 minutes or so) for the team to gear up. This critical 15-30 minutes could make a difference in the outcome.

    Also, both Drs. Mao and Wang confirmed that there are other medical teams in other parts of the country who have been using high dose IVC treating Covid-19 patients.

    Sources of this article:
    NYPost.com
    Orthomolecular.org
    https://www.naturalhealth365.com/vit...tion-3349.html
    Proverbs 29:18
    "Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he."

    Hosea 4:6
    "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.” ~ Charles Dickens

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    C is already hard to find on shelves/nearly non-existent and everyone bought all the hydrogen peroxide already for sanitizing surfaces. Supply chains appear broken or at least lacking greatly.
    You can still buy bulk on Amazon. Bags of powdered ascorbic acid. Just add some to a smoothie or mix with water. Or just dump into your mouth and chase with your favorite beverage.



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