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Thread: And so it begins, U.S. troops start to withdraw from Afghanistan

  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    But I guess Orange Man is now bad for getting us out of Afghanistan?
    Oh, look. More SJW logic. I'd ask you when you stopped beating your wife, if the idea of someone marrying you weren't so laughable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Read it and weep:
    You're right. Part if that does make me weep. Specifically, the fact that it's all yahoo, and it's highly unlikely that there's a word of truth in it.

    But I forgot, didn't I? You have TvsgS so yahoo!'s only fakenews© when it trashes Trump.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 05-28-2020 at 02:13 PM.
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  3. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Oh, look. More SJW logic. I'd ask you when you stopped beating your wife, if the idea of someone marrying you weren't so laughable.



    You're right. Part if that does make me weep. Specifically, the fact that it's all yahoo, and it's highly unlikely that there's a word of truth in it.

    But I forgot, didn't I? You have TvsgS so yahoo!'s only fakenews© when it trashes Trump.
    LOL

    Trying to use the fact that a news aggregator posted the story to claim it's false is hillaryous.

    It's from AFP. (not that the source would make it any less true anyway, it's from official sources that seem to be good enough when people want to whine about Trump not having ended all the wars yet)


    And just so you don't succeed in sliding it off the current page:

    The US military withdrawal from Afghanistan is considerably ahead of schedule, an official told AFP on Wednesday, as President Donald Trump reiterated calls for the Pentagon to bring troops home.

    Under a deal the US signed with the Taliban in February, the Pentagon was to bring troop levels down from about 12,000 to 8,600 by mid-July, before withdrawing all forces by May 2021.

    But a senior US defence official said the troop number was already at approximately 8,500, as commanders accelerate the withdrawal over fears of the coronavirus.

    "The drawdown was accelerated due to COVID-19 precautions," the official told AFP, noting that the departure of anyone with health concerns or over a certain age was being prioritised.

    Trump told reporters Tuesday the US force level was "down to 7,000-some-odd soldiers right now".

    Pentagon spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Thomas Campbell said in a statement the US was adhering to its agreement with the Taliban.

    Further drawdowns would come "after the US government assesses the security environment and the Taliban's compliance with the agreement", he added.

    The Afghan government meanwhile said it would continue with the release of Taliban prisoners that had been agreed in the US deal with the insurgents and is seen as key to kickstarting long-delayed peace talks.

    On Tuesday, the Afghan military freed about 1,000 Taliban inmates, mostly from Bagram jail near Kabul, as part of a pledge to release up to 2,000 insurgents in response to the Taliban-led ceasefire.

    A senior Taliban member told AFP that in return, the insurgents planned to free up to 100 Afghan security force members as early as Thursday.

    Top Afghan officials have demanded the Taliban extend the ceasefire and offered to reciprocate.

    "If the Taliban are ready to extend the ceasefire, we are ready to continue the ceasefire too," National Security Council spokesman Javid Faisal said Tuesday.

    The future of talks with the insurgents "depends on the Taliban's next move", he added.

    The prisoner swap is part of a US-Taliban deal, which excluded the Afghan government, that stipulates Kabul would release up to 5,000 Taliban prisoners and the militants would free about 1,000 national security personnel.

    Kabul had already freed about 1,000 Taliban inmates before the ceasefire, while the insurgents had released about 300 government captives.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/us-troop-pull...132219311.html
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  4. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are leaving faster than any are rotated in and they will all be gone by early next year or maybe even before November.
    Of what year?

    Heard that $hit since 1970.
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  5. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Of what year?

    Heard that $hit since 1970.
    Go ahead and keep this bumped.

    Other people can read.

    We are leaving and we are ahead of schedule.
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  6. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Go ahead and keep this bumped.

    Other people can read.

    We are leaving and we are ahead of schedule.
    It's hard to believe what Trump says since he lies too often.

  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    It's hard to believe what Trump says since he lies too often.
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  9. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    lol I guess it doesn't bother you Trump supporters. And why should it since you're all liars too.

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    lol I guess it doesn't bother you Trump supporters. And why should it since you're all liars too.
    Projection.

    You are just desperate to deny that Trump is doing something good.
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  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Projection.
    Deceitful comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You are just desperate to deny that Trump is doing something good.
    Because I correctly and truthfully pointed out Trump lies too much? lol Whatever the word is that means you're more than desperate is what you are. Delusional would fit.

    And because Trump lies to much I won't believe it until it happens. Keep posting updates on this as that is actually something you are good at. But this isn't about what you made up about me. That's a pussy move.

  12. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    Deceitful comment

    Because I correctly and truthfully pointed out Trump lies too much? lol Whatever the word is that means you're more than desperate is what you are. Delusional would fit.

    And because Trump lies to much I won't believe it until it happens. Keep posting updates on this as that is actually something you are good at. But this isn't about what you made up about me. That's a pussy move.
    It's happening.
    Your attempts to deflect from that by questioning Trump's honesty show desperation.
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  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's happening.
    Yes it looks like the troop withdrawal is happening SO FAR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Your attempts to deflect from that by questioning Trump's honesty show desperation.
    I'm not deflecting from anything. That's just another pussy move on your part because you don't think Trump breaking his word often enough is a big deal. That's on you and your demented sense of the truth.

  14. #102
    Afghanistan's government will soon complete a Taliban prisoner release that is a key condition to the launch of peace talks with the insurgents, President Ashraf Ghani said Thursday.

    Under the terms of a US-Taliban deal signed in February, Kabul has pledged to free 5,000 Taliban prisoners in a swap that would see the insurgents release 1,000 Afghan security force captives.

    Once the swap is done, the two sides have pledged to begin peace talks that could end nearly 19 years of war.

    Kabul has already released 3,000 prisoners, with the remainder due to be freed shortly, Ghani said.

    "The remaining commitment -- my colleagues and I have made the decision to release an additional 2,000 prisoners within a very short period. We will announce the date soon," Ghani said in a video interview with a Washington think tank.

    Taliban political spokesman Suhail Shaheen said on Twitter the prisoner release so far was "a positive step" and marked "good progress".

    Zalmay Khalilzad, the US negotiator on Afghanistan, also called the latest developments "very positive" and said that intra-Afghan talks appeared closer than ever.

    "All sides must work to get to the negotiations table ASAP and prevent spoilers from undermining the process and betraying the hopes and yearning of Afghan people for peace," he wrote on Twitter.

    The Taliban and Afghan security forces observed a three-day ceasefire last month and have generally reduced violence across Afghanistan since then in an attempt to set the stage for peace talks.

    Ghani said he would elaborate the next steps in the peace process next week and called for a "humanitarian ceasefire" to provide food and medical assistance during the coronavirus crisis.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/taliban-priso...165255868.html
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  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by article above
    Once the swap is done, the two sides have pledged to begin peace talks that could end nearly 19 years of war.


    What's it now? 3 or 4 times? @enhanced_deficit
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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post


    What's it now? 3 or 4 times? @enhanced_deficit
    We are already leaving and will leave completely whether they make peace or not.
    But their progress towards peace makes it easier for Trump to remove us faster and harder for the swamp to try and make us stay.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

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  19. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Groundhog Day
    Just like quarantine day.
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  20. #107
    Afghanistan’s government and the Islamist Taliban group have agreed that Doha will be the venue for the first meeting in their peace talks, both sides said on Sunday.

    The talks, known as the intra-Afghan dialogue, will be the first high-level meeting between the two sides after years of fighting.

    No date has been announced for the meeting, but it is expected to take place after the two sides settle differences on the release by the Afghan government of 5,000 Taliban prisoners, which could be as soon as the end of next week.

    “The first intra-Afghan meeting will happen in Doha,” Taliban spokesman Suhail Shaheen told Reuters, adding that the Islamist group was ready to hold intra-Afghan talks within a week of the release of 5,000 prisoners.

    The Afghan government has released 3,000 Taliban prisoners so far under an agreement signed between the United States and the insurgent group in February.

    More at: https://in.reuters.com/article/afgha...-idINKBN23M06M
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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  21. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post


    What's it now? 3 or 4 times?
    Hopefully this is not 'foolme 4.0' and pressure of popularity contest of elections 2020 reality tv would get something done.

    But there could be still bit of gaming the non-gullible base going on in terms of promises & statements & PRs.


    June 15, 2020 / 10:07 AM / 2 days ago
    Exclusive: U.S. senators ask Pentagon if $1 billion in Afghan aid was cut


    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two Democratic senators on Monday asked U.S. Defense Secretary Mike Esper what happened to $1 billion in aid for Afghanistan the Trump administration said it would cut nearly three months ago, according to a letter reviewed by Reuters.

    Reuters reported on April 5 the reduction would come from funds for Afghan security forces and, on May 20, that the Pentagon had not withheld the money despite Pompeo’s March 23 vow to cut it “immediately.”

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN23M1Z5


    Keeper of promises:

    Global Policing: More US troops heading to Syria, Iraq

    June 17, 2020
    FORT BRAGG, N.C. (AP) —

    2,200 paratroopers assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division’s 2nd Brigade Combat Team deploying to Iraq and Syria amid the coronavirus pandemic ...

  22. #109
    The U.S. envoy to Afghanistan has signaled Washington’s Taliban peace deal, which was signed in February, will now move forward. On Twitter, Zalmay Khalilzad revealed the status of the deal following his week-long tour, which included stops in Uzbekistan, Pakistan and Qatar where Taliban headquarters are located.

    According to him, both the U.S. and the terrorist group have “agreed developing plans in support of peace can never start too early.”

    2/3 In follow on mtg w/ the Taliban, we underscored the econ development oppts that will follow a sustainable peace. We agreed developing plans in support of peace can never start too early, assuming the 2 sides can overcome final hurdles on the path to intra-Afghan negotiations.

    — U.S. Special Representative Zalmay Khalilzad (@US4AfghanPeace) July 3, 2020

    Khalilzad added the peace deal will offer many economic benefits. He further suggested joint projects involving Qatar and Pakistan could involve trade and infrastructure.

    More at: https://www.oann.com/u-s-pushes-ahea...an-peace-deal/



    The biggest hurdle has been the release of prisoners. The peace deal called for the Afghan government to free 5,000 Taliban prisoners in exchange for the Taliban releasing 1,000 government personnel. So far, the government has freed 4,015 and the Taliban has freed 669, according to the Afghan government..

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/us-envoy-forg...101741695.html
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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