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How conservative Republicans can continue to support this arrogant imposter—the man who brags about inflicting the world with the Covid mark of the beast; the man who said, “Take the guns first, go through due process second”; and the man who deliberately played and then set up Stewart Rhodes (of course, Stewart was all too eager to be Trump’s patsy) for an 18-year prison sentence—is truly beyond my comprehension.” Chuck Baldwin
They have been. I've messaged them but the ones running this forum are not interested. They put too much emphasis on the value of the copy and paste articles which are all very good and relevant over the actions of the pieces of filth who violate the code of conduct.
Ones word used to mean something. Unfortunately at times here the word of those entrusted to uphold the code of conduct here have fallen flat.
You're the "commie" here (at the very least more of a supporter of Marxist, dictatorial ideology than me), the Zionist Mormon.
I've previously posted the connection between Zionism, Freemasonry and the Mormon Church. And also exposed that Marxism is effectively a form of Zionism:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6916911Originally Posted by Firestarter
I've argued against the foreign, American interventions in Bolivia and Brazil. This doesn't mean that I'm a "socialist" let alone a "commie".
You're the one supporting covert actions by the Trump administration to get rid of "unfriendly" regimes (that sounds soo much better than war!).
I certainly haven't defended the dictatorial rule of Maduro over Venezuela.
I've instead argued that Maduro and his predecessor Chavez were installed by American intelligence, Bush-crony Cisneros in particular.
Viva-Frei-breaks-down-voting-machine-quot-glitch#post6999210Originally Posted by Firestarter
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President Joe Biden plans to announce Tuesday a withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan by the upcoming twentieth anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks, according to two people familiar with the plans.
The withdrawal extends the US troop presence past a May 1 deadline set by the Trump administration in an agreement with the Taliban, but only by a matter of months.
More at: https://www.wral.com/biden-to-announ...r-11/19624640/
All of the credit belongs to Trump, Biden never would have done this if Trump hadn't pulled us most of the way out and made a deal to completely leave.
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The Bastiat Collection · FREE PDF · FREE EPUB · PAPER Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)
- "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
-- The Law (p. 54)- "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
-- Government (p. 99)- "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
-- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)- "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
-- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)· tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito ·
Say he'll order something in the future. That's all Swordy needs to see in order to believe that it's, for all intents and purposes, already happened.
The funny part is that Trump promised he would do a lot of things in the future and it kept his base calm, while none of it ever happened. Swordy can't seem to understand that Biden does the same to his own base, also.
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"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Taliban attack on covert US base in Afghanistan complicates Biden withdrawal decision
April 8, 2021
Top Senate Dem: Time to end the war in Afghanistan 01:03
Washington (CNN)In one of the most significant attacks against US forces in Afghanistan recently, CNN has learned that the Taliban twice targeted one of the most heavily guarded bases in the country late last month and that US military personnel working for the CIA were at the installation when it came under fire.
Rockets landed near Forward Operating Base Chapman, a classified US military installation in eastern Afghanistan, and wounded seven civilians outside the base, according to a US official familiar with the details. During a second attack, a water tower was hit and a few rounds landed on the base, though no US personnel were killed or injured.
The attacks, which have not been widely reported, were followed by another in Kandahar this week, where Taliban rockets landed near a NATO air base used by US and coalition troops providing support to Afghan forces.
The flurry of violence is fueling concerns inside the Biden administration that the Taliban could step up efforts to target American forces ahead of a May 1 deadline for the US to withdraw under an agreement struck under then-President Donald Trump, sources say.
Biden himself has admitted publicly that it's unlikely the US will meet the deadline, and sources tell CNN the recent attacks underscore a growing belief among American officials that they must prepare to increasingly defend any US troops left behind, including several hundred special operations troops who at times work covertly for the CIA.
Deputy CIA Director David Cohen, who briefly served as the agency's acting director, has been very vocal during recent interagency discussions on Afghanistan, according to the source familiar with internal discussions. This source told CNN that Cohen has weighed in more during these meetings than is traditionally expected from an acting official, advocating continued US involvement and emphasizing the importance of CIA operations in the country.
Historically, US military interventioan in Afghanistan has been a key part of global war against anti-semitism also:
Surprising Side Effects of Fight Against Anti-Semitism in USSR (Soviet Union)
Some theories in the past had linked rise of extremist racial ideologies (some races are more supremacist/chosen than others) among Israelis and Israeli settlers to abuse, mistreatment and antisemitism against Jewish minorities in places like New York, Soviet Union/Russia, France, UK, Germany, Arab lands etc. In this frame, "racist" ideologies and extremism/violent extremism are sometimes seen as a reactionary coping machanism against abuse and trauma borne out of past or current insecurities that can be generational in some cases.
Election few years ago of a Russian migrant bouncer and "racist" Foreign Minister Lieberman was also linked to past decades sharp rise in Jewish migration out of USSR to Israel following defeat/breakeup of Soviet Union at the hands of assorted variety of violent Islamist Jihadis, Foreign Fighters, terrorists in Afghanistan (sometimes known as "ISIS 1.0", armed by Israel and funded by Reagan/Carter and various Jesus Return Prophecies driven Evangelical Christian (allegedly anti-semitic) outfits).
EM.
That's interesting argument. Hopefully you're right, he's said to be mentor/protege of Israel lobby groomed Obama who planned to "end wars" before he escalated wars. More than any POTUS, other factors and timelines probably bigger catalysts behind changes in policy.
Excluding the 2017 Trump surge of 3500 troops and any war privatization efforts, do you have any numbers how many net troops were withdrawn by Trump?
There are apparently about 28,000 military troops/contractors (American/NATO) still there.
U.S. Has 1,000 More Troops in Afghanistan Than It Disclosed
nytimes
Mar 15, 2021 — In addition to the 3,500 Americans, there are roughly 7,000 NATO and allied troops still in Afghanistan
Pentagon could open itself to costly litigation from contractors if US pulls out of Afghanistan this year
By Oren Liebermann, CNN
March 29, 2021
(CNN) Despite the signing of the Doha agreement last February that called for a full drawdown of US troops and personnel from Afghanistan by May 1, the Department of Defense issued nearly a billion dollars in contracts to 17 different companies related to work in Afghanistan past the withdrawal date. There are currently some 18,000 contractors in the country, of which 6,350 are American citizens.
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Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
The Creature from Jekyll Island:
We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!
The withdraw date is now September 11th. Nothing symbolic about that date whatsoever.
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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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President Joe Biden said on Wednesday he will begin withdrawing U.S. troops from Afghanistan on May 1 to end America’s longest war, rejecting calls for U.S. forces to stay to ensure a peaceful resolution to that nation’s grinding internal conflict.
In a White House speech, Biden acknowledged that U.S. objectives in Afghanistan had become “increasingly unclear” over the past decade. He set a deadline for withdrawing all 2,500 U.S. troops remaining in Afghanistan by Sept. 11, exactly 20 years after al Qaeda’s attacks on the United States that triggered the war.
Meeting NATO officials in Brussels, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said foreign troops under NATO command in Afghanistan will leave in coordination with the U.S. withdrawal by Sept. 11, after Germany said it would match American plans.
Blinken also spoke by phone with Pakistan’s army chief on Wednesday and discussed the peace process, the media wing of Pakistan’s military said.
Afghan President Ashraf Ghani wrote on Twitter that he spoke with Biden and respects the U.S. decision. Ghani added that “we will work with our U.S. partners to ensure a smooth transition” and “we will continue to work with our US/NATO partners in the ongoing peace efforts.”
More at: https://news.whatfinger.com/2021/04/14/time-to-end-the/
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Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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The NATO announced to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan, following Joe Biden's announcement to get them out by 11 September.
Including the Dutch army...
Should we now praise Biden for doing something "good"?
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Just for sake of discussion since I didn't read all the articles, can you point to where it's ever mentioned that any Afghanistan withdrawal means they're coming home?
I'm always reminded to listen to what they actually say, not what I think I want to hear. Perhaps Trump at some point said he's bringing them home but I didn't see that mentioned in what I read of the CFR's....err Biden's statements on Afghanistan.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
EM.
Good point.
4,000 more troops going to mideast ; 18,000 additional troops sent to mideast since May 2019
Zero debate questions on Foreign Policy, Forever Wars, 14,000 troops sent to mideast in 2019
Trump says U.S. troops can come home if Israel has peace
By Philip Weiss October 16, 2020
Trump threatens Iraq with crippling sanctions if US troops are expelled
6 January 2020
Donald Trump has threatened Iraq with "sanctions like they've never seen before" President Trump has threatened severe sanctions against Iraq after its parliament called on US troops to leave the country.
Speaking from the presidential plane, Mr Trump said that if Iraq asked US forces to depart on an unfriendly basis, "we will charge them sanctions like they've never seen before, ever. It'll make Iranian sanctions look somewhat tame."
How U.S. Troops Are Preparing for the Worst in the Middle East
The Pentagon has directed about 4,500 troops to the region atop the roughly 50,000 already there as tensions rise with Iran. They are reinforcing their outposts, bases and airfields.
A soldier preparing last week to deploy to the Middle East from Fort Bragg, N.C.Credit...Travis Dove for The New York Times
Published Jan. 6, 2020
WASHINGTON — American military units stationed in Iraq and Syria are readying for attacks from either Iranian forces or their proxies after the drone strike that killed a senior Iranian general last week.
It is unclear what an Iranian retaliatory attack would look like after the death of Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, an Iranian security and intelligence commander responsible for the deaths of hundreds of troops over the years, and Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, a powerful Iraqi militia commander and government official.
nytimes.com/2020/01/06/world/middleeast/troops-iran-iraq.html
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Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
The American military has begun its withdrawal from Afghanistan, Gen. Austin Miller, the head of the U.S.-led coalition there, said at a press conference Sunday, per the New York Times.
Why it matters: Miller's statement comes about two weeks after President Joe Biden formally announced that the U.S. would execute a complete withdrawal from Afghanistan and effectively "end America’s longest war."
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What they're saying: “I now have a set of orders," said Miller.
"We will conduct an orderly withdrawal from Afghanistan, and that means transitioning bases and equipment to the Afghan security forces.”
What's more: In addition to the 3,500 U.S. troops that will leave the country by mid-September, many of the 7,000 NATO troops stationed in Afghanistan will also withdraw, according to the Times.
Many private contractors operating in Afghanistan will leave as well, though Miller noted that some contracts will be adjusted to continue support for the Afghan security forces.
More at: https://news.yahoo.com/u-military-st...165029450.html
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The State Department on Tuesday ordered a significant number of its remaining staff at the U.S. Embassy in Kabul to leave Afghanistan as the military steps up the pullout of American troops from the country.
The order came as the U.S. special envoy for Afghanistan told lawmakers that it no longer made sense to continue the 20-year deployment of American troops there.
Shortly before he spoke, the State Department said it had instructed all personnel to depart unless their jobs require them to be physically located in Afghanistan. The order was not specific as to the number of people affected, but it went well beyond the usual curtailment of staffers for security and safety reasons. Such orders normally apply only to non-essential personnel.
In an updated travel advisory for Afghanistan, the department said it had ordered the departure of all U.S. government employees “whose functions can be performed elsewhere.” It also said American citizens should not travel to Afghanistan and those there who want to depart “should leave as soon as possible on available commercial flights.”
The embassy in Kabul is heavily dependent on the U.S. military for security, and staff drawdowns had been been underway since the Trump administration had announced last year that American troops would be withdrawn from Afghanistan by May 1.
The Biden administration extended that deadline until Sept. 11, the 20th anniversary of the 2001 terrorist attacks, but has accelerated the pullout.
The pullout of American troops and their NATO coalition colleagues is proceeding even in the absence of a peace deal between the Afghan government and the Taliban, whose harboring of Osama bin Laden'a al-Qaida network prompted the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan after 9/11.
More at: https://news.yahoo.com/us-orders-big...180711516.html
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Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said on Thursday the process of removing all contractors from Afghanistan working with the United States was under way as part of President Joe Biden’s withdrawal of forces from the country.
The remarks are the clearest indication yet that Biden’s April order to withdraw all U.S. forces from Afghanistan by Sept. 11 extended to U.S.-funded contractors.
Asked whether the Pentagon had issued orders to withdraw not just American troops but also contractors, Austin said: “We’re going to responsibly retrograde all of our capabilities that we are responsible for and the contractors fall in that realm as well.”
Austin said the drawdown was going according to plan so far.
More at: https://news.whatfinger.com/2021/05/...-says-removal/
Without Trump this would not have happened.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
If only lying Donald would still be in the White House, maybe he would have kept one of his promises for a change...
and the US troops would already be "home" (or sent to some other Asian country?)...
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