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Thread: Trump Turned Out to be a Super Zionist, Troops Aren't Home, Debt Huge. Bernie do Better?

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    Trump Turned Out to be a Super Zionist, Troops Aren't Home, Debt Huge. Bernie do Better?

    Now Bernie looks like the only candidate with the guts to say anything bad about Israel. Even said in SC he would consider moving the US embassy back to Tel Aviv. That gives me pause. The first thing Trump does when he takes office is drop the MOAB on Afghanistan, and he moves the US embassy to Jerusalem. Kisses Bibi's ass like every other president. Troops still aren't home, and he runs up the debt and military budget to historic proportions. Feel suckered yet?

    But because the old man espouses a mild form of FDR socialism which would give people a living wage, he is persona non grata at RPF. Obviously Medicare for all and bigger initiatives will never pass.

    There is the big enemy and the little enemy. He is closer to Ron Paul on some positions than any Republican. Why should a Ron Pauler not watch his rise with reserved interest? Vote Sanders president for his foreign policy, vote Republican down-ticket to hamstring him domestically. A gridlocked government was the Founders' ideal.
    Last edited by James_Madison_Lives; 02-27-2020 at 04:31 PM.



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    I guess if you want to get gored by a 5,000 lb rhino instead of being chomped by a 5,000 lb hippo.

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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    I no longer give a $#@! one way or the other about the jews, the arabs or the wars.

    Nobody is going to stop them, they will stop when we go broke.

    Allowing Bernie and his Bolshevik bros access to the fedgov and its power is like asking for pancreatic cancer as a means of suicide.

    The current US left is a toxic stew of weirdosexuals, self loathing white Marxists and Jacobinites, and colored grievance groups.

    I have nothing in common with these people, I share no common goals, and I regret ever being suckered into thinking I could make "common political cause" with these psychotic lunatics.
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    One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. - Smedley Darlington Butler

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    Trump is a Zionist stooge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

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    In the simplest terms Bernie wants to rob you to provide for others and so does Trump. The squabbling is over who gets the spoils, which sure the $#@! isn’t me.

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    Trump has refused to start any new wars while Bernie voted for wars and Bernie will blow the debt into the stratosphere.

    Even if those are your only two issues Bernie is a non-starter.
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    Necons, Graham today asked Trump for a no fly zone over Syria. Trump will lose a lot of anti war voters if he decides a no fly zone in northern Syria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Necons, Graham today asked Trump for a no fly zone over Syria. Trump will lose a lot of anti war voters if he decides a no fly zone in northern Syria.
    I agree. The neocons are not in touch with the average American’s war fatigue. Most are sick of foreign entanglements.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Necons, Graham today asked Trump for a no fly zone over Syria. Trump will lose a lot of anti war voters if he decides a no fly zone in northern Syria.
    He won't give it to them.
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    Well the troops won't come home and the debt will continue to grow under Bernie. People have accepted at this point that the debt will never get paid off.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slave Mentality View Post
    I agree. The neocons are not in touch with the average American’s war fatigue. Most are sick of foreign entanglements.
    Looks like the Democrats and Liberals could get their wish of getting Trump defeated if Trump foolish decides to push for a full regime change like the one in Libya. I think the majority of people by now if not some arent be fooled to believe the media when it comes to the issue of Syrian rebels we all know they are Jihadists. Not to mention America is losing in Afghanistan.


    You can tell that America is losing in Afghanistan by how much its being widely ignored by the mainstream news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Well the troops won't come home and the debt will continue to grow under Bernie. People have accepted at this point that the debt will never get paid off.
    Not Until a massive collapse of the American economy as a whole. Which will happen. I will say this much be prepared and stock up on supplies on food, medicine, clothing. Just in case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    Now Bernie looks like the only candidate with the guts to say anything bad about Israel. Even said in SC he would consider moving the US embassy back to Tel Aviv. That gives me pause. The first thing Trump does when he takes office is drop the MOAB on Afghanistan, and he moves the US embassy to Jerusalem. Kisses Bibi's ass like every other president. Troops still aren't home, and he runs up the debt and military budget to historic proportions. Feel suckered yet?

    But because the old man espouses a mild form of FDR socialism which would give people a living wage, he is persona non grata at RPF. Obviously Medicare for all and bigger initiatives will never pass.

    There is the big enemy and the little enemy. He is closer to Ron Paul on some positions than any Republican. Why should a Ron Pauler not watch his rise with reserved interest? Vote Sanders president for his foreign policy, vote Republican down-ticket to hamstring him domestically. A gridlocked government was the Founders' ideal.
    Back to Tel Aviv, what about that give you pause?

    If memory serves; Palestinian Embassy is also in Jerusalem ?

    Has MSM ever even mentioned that, My guess is fk no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Back to Tel Aviv, what about that give you pause?

    If memory serves; Palestinian Embassy is also in Jerusalem ?

    Has MSM ever even mentioned that, My guess is fk no.
    Congress passed a law to move the embassy to Jerusalem something like 50 years ago and it has just been delayed since then.

    And Trump only gave them something they really already had.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    Now Bernie looks like the only candidate with the guts to say anything bad about Israel. Even said in SC he would consider moving the US embassy back to Tel Aviv. That gives me pause. The first thing Trump does when he takes office is drop the MOAB on Afghanistan, and he moves the US embassy to Jerusalem. Kisses Bibi's ass like every other president. Troops still aren't home, and he runs up the debt and military budget to historic proportions. Feel suckered yet?

    But because the old man espouses a mild form of FDR socialism which would give people a living wage, he is persona non grata at RPF. Obviously Medicare for all and bigger initiatives will never pass.

    There is the big enemy and the little enemy. He is closer to Ron Paul on some positions than any Republican. Why should a Ron Pauler not watch his rise with reserved interest? Vote Sanders president for his foreign policy, vote Republican down-ticket to hamstring him domestically. A gridlocked government was the Founders' ideal.

    Mild form of FDR socialism? LOL... the old bastard is a literal commie, but keep telling yourself that to justify your interest in him.

    Its amazing that you will just buy anything Bernie says when marxists are known to blatantly lie to initiate another agenda. Bernie won't even come clean about being a socialist, let alone an actual commie. But if you are a single issue voter on anti-war and you believe him, then go vote for him and wait to feel the bern.

    Don't cry about getting tricked though.
    Last edited by eleganz; 02-27-2020 at 07:24 PM.
    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF is to troll:

    Nobody spends this much time copy & pasting the same recycled links, photos & talking points. Does anybody even know where this troll stands on any issue?

    7 years and 25k posts later, the forum still does nothing & members still think they're replying to real posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    Now Bernie looks like the only candidate with the guts to say anything bad about Israel...
    To be fair, pre-election rhetoric and post-election policies do not always match though.

    Bernie Sanders Goes to War Against Pro-Israel AIPAC, Accuses It of ‘Bigotry’


    Once in office he'll start kissing Israeli a$$.


    Hope there is no suggestion here that Bernie will follow GOPA wing leader's track.
    Hope there is no suggestion here that Bernie will follow GOPA wing leader's track.

    Pre-election:


    Anti-Semitism is no longer an undertone of Trump’s campaign. It’s the melody.
    November 7, 2016
    washingtonpost
    Trump proves Jewish supremacy diminishing in GOP, says David Duke


    Post-election:

    Top-neocon reverses course, says Trump's ‘most pro-Israel president ever’

    David Duke leaves Trump camp, supports Ilhan Omar

    Also, some of the most vocal supporters of MAGA like ss and egans are also some of the most vocal critics of GOPA wing's globalist funders and deep pocket foreign-firster lobbies that fund US politicians.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Congress passed a law to move the embassy to Jerusalem something like 50 years ago and it has just been delayed since then.

    And Trump only gave them something they really already had.
    Yeah , I know but hold on a second, 10 pres b4 him didn't , and I'm sure it wasn't
    anti Semitism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Congress passed a law to move the embassy to Jerusalem something like 50 years ago and it has just been delayed since then.

    And Trump only gave them something they really already had.
    P S

    And who has Congress in their pocket......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Yeah , I know but hold on a second, 10 pres b4 him didn't , and I'm sure it wasn't
    anti Semitism.
    They were all deepstate, so Trump probably had a good reason to break the trend, like so many other trends.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    P S

    And who has Congress in their pocket......
    The same people who could have had the embassy moved before if they had Congress (and our Presidents) that much in their pocket.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Mild form of FDR socialism? LOL... the old bastard is a literal commie, but keep telling yourself that to justify your interest in him.

    Its amazing that you will just buy anything Bernie says when marxists are known to blatantly lie to initiate another agenda. Bernie won't even come clean about being a socialist, let alone an actual commie. But if you are a single issue voter on anti-war and you believe him, then go vote for him and wait to feel the bern.

    Don't cry about getting tricked though.
    Bernie's not tricking anyone, he admits he's a socialist. If he passed 1/2 of the stuff on his agenda we'd literally be going hungry. Not figuratively but actually, for real, going hungry.

    I don't Like Trump but Bernie Sanders is orders of magnitude worse than Trump. It's not even close.

    And if your wondering about Bernie's foreign policy what about this very likely scenario under The Bern. What happens when there's a mad rush for US businesses to relocate off shore. How long before Bernie starts threatening the more attractive countries with military attack if they don't stop harboring fugitive business owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They were all deepstate, so Trump probably had a good reason to break the trend, like so many other trends.
    Israel first
    Hillary not in prison
    Obama care not repealed
    patriot act intact
    due process later

    These are deep state items in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    But because the old man espouses a mild form of FDR socialism which would give people a living wage, he is persona non grata at RPF.
    Have you lost your mind?

    I hate it when I hear people on this forum downplay the dangers of socialism. And Bernie is hardly on the light end of socialism. On the liberty scale he's a lot closer to marxism than capitalism. I don't want to live in poverty as a slave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    Bernie's not tricking anyone, he admits he's a socialist.
    I disagree. He used to admit to being a socialist decades ago but now he hides from it. Its all about "democratic" socialism.

    Aside from the small group of literal gulag loving commies that support Bernie, the large majority are progressives who buy into the "democratic" part of all of it. Wolf in sheeps clothing. He knows hes lying about everything, he is a evil commie.
    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF is to troll:

    Nobody spends this much time copy & pasting the same recycled links, photos & talking points. Does anybody even know where this troll stands on any issue?

    7 years and 25k posts later, the forum still does nothing & members still think they're replying to real posts

    Know the deceptions of a paid troll HERE (Post #3)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    Bernie's not tricking anyone, he admits he's a socialist. If he passed 1/2 of the stuff on his agenda we'd literally be going hungry. Not figuratively but actually, for real, going hungry.

    I don't Like Trump but Bernie Sanders is orders of magnitude worse than Trump. It's not even close.

    And if your wondering about Bernie's foreign policy what about this very likely scenario under The Bern. What happens when there's a mad rush for US businesses to relocate off shore. How long before Bernie starts threatening the more attractive countries with military attack if they don't stop harboring fugitive business owners.
    For anyone that appreciates the Bill of Rights and our Constitution , we have never had
    good choices, not at least in the last 70 + - years..........

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Israel first
    If that was his position he'd have us at war with Iran by now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Hillary not in prison
    That may come, but if he tried for it now the courts would let her off the way the FBI did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Obama care not repealed
    He gutted it and his DoJ is helping get the courts to find it unconstitutional in its entirety.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    patriot act intact
    That may change, he is going against FISA now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    due process later
    I didn't like that he said that but I don't believe he meant it and he hasn't acted on it.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I no longer give a $#@! one way or the other about the jews, the arabs or the wars.
    .

    I do, quite a bit. That being said you would have to be crazy to support Sanders. I'm no Bernie bro.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    .

    I do, quite a bit. That being said you would have to be crazy to support Sanders. I'm no Bernie bro.
    Remember to include why I no longer give a $#@!...

    Nobody is going to stop them, they will stop when we go broke.
    Any president that made a legitimate effort to bring the troops home would be killed.
    There are only two things we should fight for.
    One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. - Smedley Darlington Butler

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    Now Bernie looks like the only candidate with the guts to say anything bad about Israel. Even said in SC he would consider moving the US embassy back to Tel Aviv. That gives me pause. The first thing Trump does when he takes office is drop the MOAB on Afghanistan, and he moves the US embassy to Jerusalem. Kisses Bibi's ass like every other president. Troops still aren't home, and he runs up the debt and military budget to historic proportions. Feel suckered yet?

    But because the old man espouses a mild form of FDR socialism which would give people a living wage, he is persona non grata at RPF. Obviously Medicare for all and bigger initiatives will never pass.

    There is the big enemy and the little enemy. He is closer to Ron Paul on some positions than any Republican. Why should a Ron Pauler not watch his rise with reserved interest? Vote Sanders president for his foreign policy, vote Republican down-ticket to hamstring him domestically. A gridlocked government was the Founders' ideal.
    1)Bernie is not a Non Interventionist. He is pro Foreign Aid & he supports Israel. He only hates Bibi because he hates all "Right wingers".
    2)FDR was a communist who destroyed our nation.His presidency moved the Republican Party to the left.
    If Bernie sanders gets his programs, We will never repeal them & the Republican Party will move even further left.

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If that was his position he'd have us at war with Iran by now.
    Just like how Obama gave us a war with Iran

    The man said is supports Israel 1000% and people are here still arguing if he is an Israeli firster

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