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Thread: Joe Walsh: 'I'd rather have a socialist in the White House than a con man'

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    Joe Walsh: 'I'd rather have a socialist in the White House than a con man'

    How many people here agree with this?

    Former presidential candidate Joe Walsh criticized fellow Republicans who labeled themselves as “never Trump” for considering a vote for President Trump if Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is the Democratic 2020 nominee.

    Walsh, a former Illinois congressman, wrote in a Washington Post op-ed Tuesday that he’d “rather have a socialist in the White House than a con man.”

    He went on to chide his fellow "never Trump" party members for what he sees as their wavering stances.

    "Some of my Republican and ex-Republican brethren have started implying that what never-Trump actually meant was something more like: fingers-crossed-I-really-really-hope-not-Trump-but-I-guess-sometimes-Trump if Democrats wind up nominating a self-described democratic socialist," he wrote. "But that’s not how this works."

    But Walsh, who attempted to take on Trump in the Republican primary, said he sympathizes with those who do not want Sanders to be in the White House, with a personal caveat.

    “If it were up to me, Sanders isn’t the guy I’d put in charge,” he wrote. “But when I finally came around to saying, ‘never Trump,’ I meant it.”

    Walsh, however, said those who designated themselves as “never Trump” should “suck it up and support his Democratic opponent, no matter who that is,” promising to campaign for Sanders if he is the nominee.

    “Lots of politicians stink, and people hold their noses and vote for them, anyway,” he wrote. “But if you’ve already gone on record as a never-Trumper, and now you’re saying that you’ll vote for Trump because you don’t like the alternative, you’re not holding your nose, you’re inhaling deeply.”

    The former congressman dropped out of the presidential race against Trump earlier this month after receiving only 1 percent of the vote in the Iowa caucuses.

    Concerns surrounding Sanders, who is a self-described democratic socialist, have surfaced in recent weeks as the Vermont progressive has become the front-runner in the race to win Democratic presidential nomination. Sanders currently has 45 delegates after winning Nevada and New Hampshire and coming in second in Iowa by an extremely thin margin.

    Lawmakers on both sides took issue with Sanders’s comments regarding the late Cuban leader Fidel Castro when he said on “60 Minutes” that “it’s unfair to simply say everything is bad” about Castro.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...than-a-con-man



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    Judas Goat.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    A socialist who is willing to break Ice and open borders this dude is to crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    A socialist who is willing to break Ice and open borders this dude is to crazy.
    I tend to agree. But Sanders could bring on the collapse sooner rather than later so I can see both sides.

    @RonZeplin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    I tend to agree. But Sanders could bring on the collapse sooner rather than later so I can see both sides.

    @RonZeplin
    I think the big screw up that Sanders did to his campaign was about fidel castro. I still dont see a chance that he would win though. I dont think the dems will give him that chance to win with the super delegates the win might to Biden or bloomberg.

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    Exclamation The Bernie Bros Club

    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    I tend to agree. But Sanders could bring on the collapse sooner rather than later so I can see both sides.

    @RonZeplin
    D&R party crime syndicate, Bernie Bros.



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    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
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    With Bernie, you get both.

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    Joe Walsh seems to not understand that Bernie is a socialist and a con man put together.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge



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    The biggest con man in the room seems to be Joe Walsh.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The biggest con man in the room seems to be Joe Walsh.
    Truth hurts, right? Donald is doing nothing about spending, debt or the deficit. Walsh is a loser but he speaks some element of truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Truth hurts, right? Donald is doing nothing about spending, debt or the deficit. Walsh is a loser but he speaks some element of truth.

    Well, Walsh certainly is doing something about spending.

    He is trying to significantly increase spending by encouraging people to vote for Bernie Sanders over Trump.

    All you hear is the bull$#@! words coming out of his mouth.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    He is trying to significantly increase spending by encouraging people to vote for Bernie Sanders over Trump.
    .
    Bring on the collapse I say.

    I'm ready !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Bring on the collapse I say.

    I'm ready !!
    You really don't want the collapse to happen under a socialist totalitarian regime.

    And I will do everything in my power to stop that​ from happening.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    They're all socialist conmen and conwomen. When will people truly wake up and realize that the upper echelon of corporate government is little more than an organized crime racket, where the labor of the average people is pooled together and stolen by that upper echelon?

    I mean come on, coronavirus hits and the first thing out of the upper echelon is WE NEED MORE MONEY! As if the trillions already allocated just aren't quite enough.
    Last edited by devil21; 02-26-2020 at 12:12 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Forget the debt. The debt will never be paid without a Commander-in-Chief willing to issue letters of marque and reprisal for the bankers and financiers of the City of London & a pit bull Attorney General willing to use RICO to seize the assets of the Wall Street Banks.

    Both men would be JFK’d before dinner. Therefore, the debt will be inflated away. Buy gold.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumba of Liberty View Post
    Forget the debt. The debt will never be paid without a Commander-in-Chief willing to issue letters of marque and reprisal for the bankers and financiers of the City of London & a pit bull Attorney General willing to use RICO to seize the assets of the Wall Street Banks.

    Both men would be JFK’d before dinner. Therefore, the debt will be inflated away. Buy gold.
    I'm buying as much gold as I can afford

    Check out the Economy and Markets subforum where we discuss these matters:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdi...my-amp-Markets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Bring on the collapse I say.

    I'm ready !!
    Read what happened in the 70 some years after Russia collapsed in 1917. Yes things can get a hell of a lot worse.
    ...

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    In the last 30 years, Sanders was a commie masquerading as a socialist.

    In the last 5 years, Sanders was a commie masquerading as a "democratic socialist".

    Trump is no Ron Paul but the old bastard the cut my taxes. Bernie will raise all taxes; personal, payroll, corporate, cap gains, climate change, inheritance, etc...
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    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

    Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.

    7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll

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    Lightbulb Donald & Bernie's Socialist Secrets

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    You really don't want the collapse to happen under a socialist totalitarian regime.

    And I will do everything in my power to stop that​ from happening.
    Socialist Totalitarian Twins Donald & Bernie.



    Secret #1 - Trump raised your taxes...
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

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    All socialists are con men. Socialist leaders always become rich, either with money or power - but usually both.
    No more IRS.
    I am now old enough to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    In the last 30 years, Sanders was a commie masquerading as a socialist.

    In the last 5 years, Sanders was a commie masquerading as a "democratic socialist".

    Trump is no Ron Paul but the old bastard the cut my taxes. Bernie will raise all taxes; personal, payroll, corporate, cap gains, climate change, inheritance, etc...
    This +rep

    Comrade Bernie is not a socialist, he is an authoritarian Marxist, a commie from the old school, a pro Soviet Leninist.

    He has stated numerous times that he intends to kill my industry, prosecute me personally as a climate criminal, and sue my industry into nothingness.

    He has legions of Bolshevik/Jacobinite followers that are on record advocating death camps and genocide.

    I, and the remaining productive white class of America, are the targets of that genocide.

    Trump has lowered my taxes, reduced workplace regulations and reduced regulatory fatwas that directly affect me.

    Those are the facts as of February 2020.

    I will be supporting Trump in the fall, barring drastic changes in those facts.

    Any sane person, especially any sane white person, should be doing the same.

    Anything to the contrary is just static, background noise and smoke.

    Disregard it.
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    How many people here agree with this?

    joe-walsh-id-rather-have-a-socialist-in-the-white-house-than-a-con-man
    You know, barring the extensive disagreement I have with the premise; even if I accepted Joe Walsh's argument for exactly what it was, he would still be wrong.

    Anyone ever hear of this quote, from C.S. Lewis? Been around a while:
    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.
    Yeah. I'd rather take the con man. At least the notion of prosecution exists with that, that you know when he kills you it's out of malice. But somehow, the socialists and communists always get away with it, literal murder, because "they had the best of intentions". All while making themselves rich. And despite their bodycount being 100x higher. No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    You really don't want the collapse to happen under a socialist totalitarian regime.

    And I will do everything in my power to stop that​ from happening.
    Exactly.

    Collapsatarians know not that which they pursue.
    "May you find that which you seek" is the greatest Chinese curse.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Socialist Totalitarian Twins Donald & Bernie.



    Secret #1 - Trump raised your taxes...
    Not mine.
    Nor anyone else I know.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Both Are Socialists

    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Socialist Totalitarian Twins Donald & Bernie.



    Secret #1 - Trump raised your taxes...
    That video needs to be posted in the "Top News" portion of the forums, just to remind all of the Trump supporters here that we already have a Socialist in the White House.
    "Then David said to the Philistine, 'You come to me with a sword, a spear, and a javelin, but I come to you in the name of Yahweh of hosts, the God of the battle lines of Israel, Whom you have reproached.'" - 1 Samuel 17:45

    "May future generations look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in moment of great crisis, stood up to their politicians, the opinion-makers, and the Establishment, and saved their country." - Dr. Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
    That video needs to be posted in the "Top News" portion of the forums, just to remind all of the Trump supporters here that we already have a Socialist in the White House.
    Well Bernie will be a far worst socialist by opening up the borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
    That video needs to be posted in the "Top News" portion of the forums, just to remind all of the Trump supporters here that we already have a Socialist in the White House.
    The state I live in isn't perfect, but I am happy. I will gladly take the light socialism that we have (for now) rather than plummet into the dumpster diving system that Venezuela has.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    The state I live in isn't perfect, but I am happy. I will gladly take the light socialism that we have (for now) rather than plummet into the dumpster diving system that Venezuela has.
    I'll take the reduction that Trump is bringing.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Vote Away "the Lesser of Two Evils"

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Well Bernie will be a far worst socialist by opening up the borders.
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    The state I live in isn't perfect, but I am happy. I will gladly take the light socialism that we have (for now) rather than plummet into the dumpster diving system that Venezuela has.
    ...Or how about we just stop supporting Socialism, period?
    "Then David said to the Philistine, 'You come to me with a sword, a spear, and a javelin, but I come to you in the name of Yahweh of hosts, the God of the battle lines of Israel, Whom you have reproached.'" - 1 Samuel 17:45

    "May future generations look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in moment of great crisis, stood up to their politicians, the opinion-makers, and the Establishment, and saved their country." - Dr. Ron Paul

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