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    Trump Names Gay Fox News Contributor Head of Intelligence

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51576245

    His main qualification for the job is supporting Trump. The Fox News revolving door to the Trump Administration continues. Worked for George W. Bush at the United Nations.

    Trump criticised for appointing loyalist Grenell as acting spy chief

    President Donald Trump has appointed Richard Grenell, the current ambassador to Germany, as the acting intelligence chief in charge of US spy agencies.

    The move was a surprise to many given his lack of relevant experience and controversial record of pushing conservative policies as a diplomat.

    But Mr Grenell is a staunch Trump loyalist and has been outspoken in his defence of the president.

    Critics say this bias will impede his ability to deliver neutral facts.

    As the acting Director of National Intelligence, Mr Grenell will manage the National Security Agency, FBI, and CIA among other agencies, as well as advise the president on intelligence concerns.

    The president announced the appointment via Twitter on Wednesday, saying Mr Grenell had "represented our Country exceedingly well" as ambassador.

    But US media report some officials and Trump allies are concerned that Mr Grenell was given the directorship based primarily on his loyalty to Mr Trump.

    Mr Grenell is a former Fox News contributor and served as US spokesman at the United Nations during President George W Bush's term. He was confirmed by the Senate to the ambassador role in April 2018.

    He is believed to be the first openly gay member of Mr Trump's cabinet.


    Mr Grenell will replace the current acting director, Retired Vice Admiral Joseph Maguire, who must leave the post by 12 March in accordance with federal law.

    When the last director, Dan Coats, left in July, the president attempted to fill the role with another loyalist, Republican congressman John Ratcliffe.

    Mr Trump eventually decided against doing so after bipartisan pushback over Mr Ratcliffe's lack of experience and outspoken support for him. It was clear he was unlikely to be confirmed by the Senate.

    There is no indication whether or not Mr Trump intends Mr Grenell to serve permanently.

    A White House statement said Mr Grenell had "years of experience working with our Intelligence Community in a number of additional positions" and would take a "non-political, non-partisan approach".

    However, some in Washington were less convinced.

    "This is a job requiring leadership, management, substance and secrecy," former CIA officer John Sipher told the New York Times.

    "He doesn't have the kind of background and experience we would expect for such a critical position."



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    Rand Paul thinks Grennel will do a good job

    Apparently, he's a non-interventionist.

    https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1230306532820041728

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51576245

    His main qualification for the job is supporting Trump. The Fox News revolving door to the Trump Administration continues. Worked for George W. Bush at the United Nations.
    Lol. Trump should hire people that will sabotage him at every turn, right Zippy? That would make him “fair”, unlike leftists like Clinton and Obama who engage in massive purges of anyone but loyalists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Lol. Trump should hire people that will sabotage him at every turn, right Zippy? That would make him “fair”, unlike leftists like Clinton and Obama who engage in massive purges of anyone but loyalists.
    Trump has been engaged in massive purges of anyone but loyalists since Impeachment. (he also was doing it before but has picked up steam lately). He claims to only hire the best people but fires most of them. Guess they weren't the "best"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Apparently, he's a non-interventionist.

    https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1230306532820041728
    Hey zippy, how does your foot taste?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump has been engaged in massive purges of anyone but loyalists since Impeachment. (he also was doing it before but has picked up steam lately). He claims to only hire the best people but fires most of them. Guess they weren't the "best"?
    Or he used them to help find out who all of his enemies were so he can arrest them all later for the criminals they are.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Or he used them to help find out who all of his enemies were so he can arrest them all later for the criminals they are.
    Like he was going to arrest Hillary Clinton as soon as he took office. And like the Mueller investigation was just a cover for rounding up all the "Deep state" and arresting them as soon as the Mueller Report comes out. Tell me another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Like he was going to arrest Hillary Clinton as soon as he took office. And like the Mueller investigation was just a cover for rounding up all the "Deep state" and arresting them as soon as the Mueller Report comes out. Tell me another.
    Nobody ever said he was going to arrest Hillary Clinton as soon as he took office. Nobody said he was going to arrest them all as soon as the Mueller Report came out.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump has been engaged in massive purges of anyone but loyalists since Impeachment. (he also was doing it before but has picked up steam lately). He claims to only hire the best people but fires most of them. Guess they weren't the "best"?
    Lol. Swing and a miss. He left in place most of the deep state already there. A bunch of holdovers. Clinton would have purged them all on day one.

    Trump’s problem was he was not an insider with a trove of loyalists ready to be installed at all positions. He had trouble even filling cabinet positions, let alone going two or three levels down in the agencies.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    But I thought Trump was a homophobe. At least thats what MSM tells me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Trump’s problem was he was not an insider with a trove of loyalists ready to be installed at all positions. He had trouble even filling cabinet positions, let alone going two or three levels down in the agencies.
    Now imagine Ron Paul's presidency and how easy it would have been for him to make all these appointments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    But I thought Trump was a homophobe. At least thats what MSM tells me.
    Homophobe - doesn't like giving BJs.

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    Oops didn't realize already posted here.

    Another diversity milestone and pretty big jump for current US ambassador to Germany who was recently also tapped by Prez Trump to lead global campaign to end criminalization of homosexuality.
    H/T to Don Jr and ss for highlighting Grenell's bold leadership in global campaign on LGBTQ rights and pressuring Germany on various issues respectively. If Don Jr 2024 predictions made on this forum and elsewhere by MAGA believers cae true, Grenell likely would be a leading prospect for Sec of State position in a Don Jr cabinet.



    New US Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell with husband Matt Lashey and Don Jr.


    Grenell Head of Intelligence...

    Trump names staunch loyalist and current US Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell as acting intelligence chief

    By Kaitlan Collins, Zachary Cohen, Kylie Atwood and Lauren Fox, CNN
    Updated 11:10 AM ET, Thu February 20, 2020

    Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump announced Wednesday that he has named Richard Grenell, a staunch loyalist, as acting spy chief.

    "I am pleased to announce that our highly respected Ambassador to Germany, @RichardGrenell, will become the Acting Director of National Intelligence. Rick has represented our Country exceedingly well and I look forward to working with him," Trump tweeted.

    Trump also thanked outgoing acting director Joseph Maguire "for the wonderful job he has done, and we look forward to working with him closely, perhaps in another capacity within the Administration!"

    News of the pick, which was first reported by the New York Times, comes as Trump faces a March 11 deadline to nominate a new director of national intelligence or name a new acting spy chief as federal law prevents Maguire from serving beyond that date.
    Grenell will retain his ambassadorship to Germany while he is acting DNI, according to a senior administration official.
    Even in an acting role, Grenell's lack of intelligence-related experience is likely to unsettle the US intelligence community, which has endured repeated attacks from the President since his 2016 election win over the Russia investigation and later the whistleblower complaint that gave way to the Ukraine impeachment inquiry, which made Trump just the third president in American history to be impeached.


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    Trump Nominates LGBT Activist to Head EEOC


    Donald Trump Jr.‏ Verified account @DonaldJTrumpJr
    This is a really big deal and with @Richardgrenell at the helm it will get done!!! Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-launches-global-effort-end-criminalization-homosexuality-n973081 … via @nbcnews



    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    But I thought Trump was a homophobe. At least thats what MSM tells me.
    Fakenews also used to call him 'racist'... infact he's more pro diversity, social justice, minorities outreach, pro MLK than even many Dem Presidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Apparently, he's a non-interventionist.

    https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1230306532820041728
    He's coming around!
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Apparently, he's a non-interventionist.
    Probably not the kind of anti-Iran interventionist like other MAGA converts like Dennis Prager or "Iraq war architect" Elliot Abrahams but this Don Jr/Sr favored leader does not seem to be non-interventionist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Germany is poised to renege on its promise to boost NATO spending, backtracking on a public commitment last year by Chancellor Angela Merkel to increase German military expenditure to 1.5% of gross domestic product by 2024 - bringing it closer to the 2% level set by NATO themselves, according to the Wall Street Journal.

    "NATO members clearly pledged to move towards, not away, from 2% by 2024. That the German government would even be considering reducing its already unacceptable commitments to military readiness is a worrisome signal to Germany’s 28 NATO allies," said the US ambassador to Germany, Richard Grenell.
    The rise of Trump's new pro-Israel and anti-Iran intel director
    jpost
    5 hours ago - Richard Grenell took the lead in Europe by highlighting Iran's genocidal antisemitism targeting Israel.

    October 30, 2019 | Fox News
    US rebukes Germany for refusal to say Iran’s threat to destroy Israel is anti-Semitic
    Benjamin Weinthal
    “Threatening the destruction of Israel is something that should not be dismissed, especially when the threats come from Iranian regime officials who regularly use terrorism as a weapon of intimidation. When someone shows you who they are, believe them,” Richard Grenell, the U.S. ambassador to Germany, told Fox News Tuesday.


    That said, he's not called for US to drop nukes on Iran as MAGA's top donor had during Iraq war years.
    But to give credit where due, he seems to get things done at very low expense.
    H/T swordsmyth:


    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    In first, Trump’s ambassador to Germany requests $0 more in budget, cuts spending

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    Lol Zippy Juan Williams calls Grennell a "gay fox news contributor" as opposed to his actual job as UN ambassador.

    Lazy trolling day, lmao. Zip stop being triggered by the gays.
    Last edited by eleganz; 02-20-2020 at 11:52 PM.
    JULESWIN-ISMS
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Bernie will bring about a more free market in the US than Trump. Hence the reason I wouldn't mind having him as my next president.
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    If the US govt ends their official and clandestine attacks on Venezuela, I can brush up on my Spanish and move there.

    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF :
    DNC-S (Soros)
    CLINTON-PELO-SCHIFF
    NYT-CNN-SOCIALIST
    CIA-B (Brennan)



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    double post
    Last edited by eleganz; 02-20-2020 at 11:52 PM.
    JULESWIN-ISMS
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Bernie will bring about a more free market in the US than Trump. Hence the reason I wouldn't mind having him as my next president.
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    If the US govt ends their official and clandestine attacks on Venezuela, I can brush up on my Spanish and move there.

    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF :
    DNC-S (Soros)
    CLINTON-PELO-SCHIFF
    NYT-CNN-SOCIALIST
    CIA-B (Brennan)

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Lol Zippy Juan Williams calls Grennell a "gay fox news contributor" as opposed to his actual job as UN ambassador.
    Gay?



    Lazy trolling day, lmao. Zip stop being triggered by the gays.
    Zippy is a homophobe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Probably not the kind of anti-Iran interventionist like other MAGA converts like Dennis Prager or "Iraq war architect" Elliot Abrahams but this Don Jr/Sr favored leader does not seem to be non-interventionist.



    The rise of Trump's new pro-Israel and anti-Iran intel director
    jpost
    5 hours ago - Richard Grenell took the lead in Europe by highlighting Iran's genocidal antisemitism targeting Israel.

    October 30, 2019 | Fox News
    US rebukes Germany for refusal to say Iran’s threat to destroy Israel is anti-Semitic
    Benjamin Weinthal
    “Threatening the destruction of Israel is something that should not be dismissed, especially when the threats come from Iranian regime officials who regularly use terrorism as a weapon of intimidation. When someone shows you who they are, believe them,” Richard Grenell, the U.S. ambassador to Germany, told Fox News Tuesday.


    That said, he's not called for US to drop nukes on Iran as MAGA's top donor had during Iraq war years.
    But to give credit where due, he seems to get things done at very low expense.
    H/T swordsmyth:
    It seems like he is really anti interventionist like Rand said. You can also see evidence of this by the effect he had on the admin of anti interventionist Bush. All the naysayers will be eating crow when the results start coming in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    But I thought Trump was a homophobe. At least thats what MSM tells me.
    Yeah that's what I heard too.

    I wonder what Buttyjudge is going to piously lecture everyone about at the next democrat clown show?
    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.” ~ Charles Dickens

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPtotheWH View Post
    Why does the OP hate gays?
    It is really disturbing how everyone is obsessed with this dudes sexual preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Hey zippy, how does your foot taste?

    Surprised Rand said that. I followed Rand's 2016 campaign closely and Grenell trashed Rand constantly and viciously.

    I don't use the word neocon as loosely as most people here but I would have said he falls in the Bill Kristol neocon camp. He's very hawkish anyway you look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Apparently, he's a non-interventionist.

    https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1230306532820041728
    Who supports the surveillance state.

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    Thumbs down UN Globalist Clusterflop NWO

    Donnell is making the United Nations NWO great again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Surprised Rand said that. I followed Rand's 2016 campaign closely and Grenell trashed Rand constantly and viciously.

    I don't use the word neocon as loosely as most people here but I would have said he falls in the Bill Kristol neocon camp. He's very hawkish anyway you look at it.
    Agree- Rand surprised me as well. Grenell is definitely a neocon, IMHPOV.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Surprised Rand said that. I followed Rand's 2016 campaign closely and Grenell trashed Rand constantly and viciously.

    I don't use the word neocon as loosely as most people here but I would have said he falls in the Bill Kristol neocon camp. He's very hawkish anyway you look at it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Agree- Rand surprised me as well. Grenell is definitely a neocon, IMHPOV.
    It was surprising statement.
    Rand is one of the best Senators/politicians in DC but once in a while he seems to get distracted by media noise or gets bad advice; his 2016 campaign strategy when he was attacked by Trump, his response to attacks from foreign-firster wing of Israel lobby after he called for cutting foreign aid, and above statement are some of the examples. But to be fair, he's not an experienced professional politician or entrenched media savy personality like current GOPA wing leadership and deep neocons funded machinery around him. Probably got influenced by their well crafted messaging.

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    H/T ss for sharing this related story that among other things also shows another diversity is our strength model milestone reached by MAGA leadersghip:

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump's new intel chief makes immediate changes, ousts top official

    President Trump's new acting director of national intelligence, Richard Grenell, has already made major changes at the agency, including ousting the No. 2 official.
    Former acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire and his deputy, Andrew Hallman, resigned on Friday. According to The New York Times, Grenell told Hallman, who has worked for national intelligence and the CIA for three decades, that his service was no longer needed.

    The Times also reported that Grenell — who was only officially tapped into the role on Thursday and who says he will not be the nominee for the full-time role — also made a slew of his own new hires on Friday, including an expert on Trump conspiracy theories.
    One hire is Kashyap Patel, a senior member of the National Security Council and former top aide to Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), the former House Intelligence Committee chairman.
    Patel was a lead author of a 2018 memo that accused FBI and Justice Department officials under former President Obama of overstepping their surveillance authority ahead of the 2016 presidential election.

    Kashyap Patel has reportedly been given permission to "clean house" at the agency.
    There is no indication that any of the officials ousted were for refusal to say that Iran’s threat to destroy Israel was anti-Semitic.

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    Another MAGA historic accomplishment.

    Trump just name dropped Drudge at his rally, it's not clear if following headline was fed to Drudge/media wing by GOPA team to boost its pro-diversity image ahead of 2020.
    This headline featured on Drudge Report today:


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    Op-Ed: Think Trump is tough on Twitter? Meet Ambassador Richard Grenell

    Updated Wed, Feb 19 2020
    Jake Novak

    Key Points

    • Trump has found his ultimate tweeting wingman in U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell.
    • As followers of Grenell’s Twitter feed already know, it’s a strong source of condensed and contentious pro-Trump arguments.
    • Grenell may be a top diplomat, but there’s very little that’s diplomatic about his bare-fisted approach on Twitter.


    Yet while Twitter is clearly a problem for Barr, Trump has found his ultimate tweeting wingman in U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell. As followers of Grenell’s Twitter feed already know, it’s a strong source of condensed and contentious pro-Trump arguments. That includes getting into some sharper-tongued tussles online in a way not all that different from Trump’s own nasty social media encounters.
    Grenell may be a top diplomat, but there’s very little that’s diplomatic about his bare-fisted approach on Twitter.
    Grenell’s personal story makes his conspicuous Twitter presence an even bigger asset to the White House. As the highest ranking openly gay member of the Trump administration, Grenell proves he’s far from an example of tokenism with every statement and slamming tweet.
    He’s clearly a part of the team, not just for show, as he’s taken an aggressive lead role in the administration’s battle to decriminalize homosexuality across the globe.
    Grenell also has a long history of more aggressive online behaviors, something that emerged during his brief and tumultuous tenure as the foreign policy spokesman for Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign.

    cnbc.com/2020/02/18/oped-think-trump-is-tough-on-twitter-meet-ambassador-richard-grenell.html

    GOPA wing may have found a foreign policy driving civil liberties gem with this fiesty find from Bush/Romney teams.

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