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Thread: My Nevada caucus journey -- from supporting Ron Paul to Bernie Sanders

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCifelli1 View Post
    This guy is hopeless. Where was this published? Hopefully nowhere.
    CNN

    hXXps://www.cnn.com/2020/02/17/opinions/nevada-caucus-from-paul-to-sanders-opinion-lyngar/index.html

    I broke the link



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    NH is crawling with ex-Ron Paulers who think the same way.
    People liked Ron Paul for different reasons.....what I am posting below is also attracting likes for Americans that would like fully socialized medicare.



    Now many in this forum will disagree with this, but if you are lower middle class making less than 29K a year this looks pretty good, even 50K at $840 a year that ALSO cover all dental....it's not a bad deal if you are currently paying out of pocket for sickness or bad teeth.

    We may not agree with it....but if you can't see the attraction; then we are really out of touch with many Americans would like to see happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    True libertarians are supportive of LGBTQ rights
    What are LGBTQ rights?


    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    drug legalization
    Ok.



    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    criminal justice reform

    Ok.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    reproductive rights
    $#@! off.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

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    People who talk about social issues instead of economic are bad libertarians.
    "Jeff Deist on Tom Woods"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    This guy has been shilling against libertarianism for ten years. He keeps writing the same article over and over again.
    most of our supporters were totally $#@!ing nuts

    So I'm nuts for supporting ron Paul? No you are nuts for supporting communist Bernie sanders.

    If you think that selfishness and cruelty are fantastic personal traits, you might be a libertarian.
    This is a leftist talking point.


    There are a lot of libertarians in the Tea Party, but there are also a lot of repugnant, religious nuts and intolerant racists. “Birthers” found a comfy home among 9-11 conspiracy people and other crackpots.

    Please shut up moron!

    During Obama’s first term, I also went to graduate school for creative writing at progressive college, and I settled into my marriage with my wife, a Canadian and “goddamn liberal.” I can’t point to just one thing that pushed me left, but in Obama’s first term I had a change of heart, moving from a lifelong extreme into the bosom of conventional liberalism.

    You know what is funny I know a lot of people who liked obama before he become President & many of them switched to Ron Paul.

    A month before the 2012 election, I changed my party affiliation to Democrat. I am a very late bloomer, that it took me so many decades to develop my own values. I was thirty-nine.

    You joined the dark side!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProBlue33 View Post
    People liked Ron Paul for different reasons.....what I am posting below is also attracting likes for Americans that would like fully socialized medicare.

    Now many in this forum will disagree with this, but if you are lower middle class making less than 29K a year this looks pretty good, even 50K at $840 a year that ALSO cover all dental....it's not a bad deal if you are currently paying out of pocket for sickness or bad teeth.

    We may not agree with it....but if you can't see the attraction; then we are really out of touch with many Americans would like to see happen.
    My combined employer/employee payments for a $#@!ty family plan with deductibles and limits so sky high as to be worthless, cost over $20,000 last year.

    There is no way that a working class family can pay $1000 a month for "insurance".

    Romney/Obamacare was designed to fail, to usher in single payer "medicare for all" schemes.

    Of course this plan has huge appeal...if they don't steal the nomination from him again, Sanders stands a good chance of winning.

    We've been invaded by 50-60 million high functioning retards, which, combined with our own native born retard class, thinks this is fine, and has no concept of the $48 trillion dollars of added cost in addition to the $25 trillion we already owe, that are the true annual costs of such a plan.

    Freedom is not popular.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    To the point of insanity.
    Stockholm syndrome?

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by ProBlue33 View Post
    People liked Ron Paul for different reasons.....what I am posting below is also attracting likes for Americans that would like fully socialized medicare.
    ...
    Now many in this forum will disagree with this, but if you are lower middle class making less than 29K a year this looks pretty good, even 50K at $840 a year that ALSO cover all dental....it's not a bad deal if you are currently paying out of pocket for sickness or bad teeth.

    We may not agree with it....but if you can't see the attraction; then we are really out of touch with many Americans would like to see happen.
    I think everyone can see that free stuff is popular. It’s the advanced knowledge and experience that tells people that nothing comes for free. If it’s too good to be true, it probably is. These are the lessons that a parent teaches a child so that they do not enter the world and become easy prey for con-men, shysters and charlatans. Communists take advantage of child-minded, ignorant people.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    They are what they hate.” - B4L


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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    People who talk about social issues instead of economic are bad libertarians.
    "Jeff Deist on Tom Woods"
    Not sure if serious ...



    Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)

    • "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law." - The Law (p. 54)
    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." - Government (p. 99)
    • "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
      - Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)
    • "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
      - Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)

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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Stockholm syndrome?
    Fantasyland syndrome, they think that unlimited free resources are available for everyone.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    That same Bernie Sanders whose alot worse on foreign policy? and wants Russia to give back Crimea to Ukraine? when knowing fully well the majority of the population in Crimea are 98% Eastern Ukrainian Slavic?

    Bernie Sanders doesn't want open borders as well?
    Sadly for us, Sanders is not alone n this lunacy. This is why Ron Paul was such a special human being.

    BY SEN. RAND PAUL
    MARCH 10, 2014
    Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is a gross violation of that nation’s sovereignty and an affront to the international community. His continuing occupation of Ukraine is completely unacceptable, and Russia’s President should be isolated for his actions.

    It is America’s duty to condemn these actions in no uncertain terms. It is our role as a global leader to be the strongest nation in opposing Russia’s latest aggression.

    Putin must be punished for violating the Budapest Memorandum, and Russia must learn that the U.S. will isolate it if it insists on acting like a rogue nation.

    This does not and should not require military action. No one in the U.S. is calling for this. But it will require other actions and leadership, both of which President Obama unfortunately lacks.

    I recommend a number of specific and decisive measures to punish Putin for his ongoing aggression.

    Economic sanctions and visa bans should be imposed and enforced without delay. I would urge our European allies to leverage their considerable weight with Russia and take the lead on imposing these penalties. I would do everything in my power to aggressively market and export America’s vast natural gas resources to Europe.

    I would immediately remove every obstacle or current ban blocking the export of American oil and gas to Europe, and I would lift restrictions on new oil and gas development in order to ensure a steady energy supply at home and so we can supply Europe with oil if it is interrupted from Ukraine.

    Because of so many of our current needless laws and regulations, President Obama has left Europe completely vulnerable because of its dependence on Russian oil and gas.

    I would support immediate construction of the Keystone Pipeline.

    It is important that Russia become economically isolated until all its forces are removed from Crimea and Putin pledges to act in accordance with the international standards of behavior that respect the rights of free people everywhere.

    We should also suspend American loans and aid to Ukraine because currently these could have the counterproductive effect of rewarding Russia. Ukraine owes so much money to Russia that America would essentially be borrowing from China to give to Russia.

    The U.S. should suspend its participation in this summer’s G-8 summit and take the lead in boycotting the event in Sochi. If Putin’s troops remain in Crimea at the time of the summit, Russia should be expelled from the group.
    https://time.com/17648/sen-rand-paul...ns-aggression/

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post

    That "The rich already have socialism" is the bottom barrel talking point of the left.

    I am all for getting rid of corporate welfare but that amounts to nothing compared to actual welfare spending. They act like we don't have a gigantic welfare state. Entitlements are 70% of the budget. https://www.crfb.org/blogs/does-enti...percent-budget

    And this whole idea that the US is just this austere place and Europe takes care of their people. Here are the facts. Right from the New York Times. We spend more per as a share of GDP than Australia, Canada, Israel and Ireland


  17. #44
    Trump wins all 25 Nevada delegates . Bernie will run away with dem delegates , on his way to texas to work on super Tuesday delegates.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Trump wins all 25 Nevada delegates . Bernie will run away with dem delegates , on his way to texas to work on super Tuesday delegates.
    There was no Republican caucus. The Republican Committee just decided to give him all of them.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    There was no Republican caucus. The Republican Committee just decided to give him all of them.
    Yes in unusual show of unity the caucuses were cancelled and the state committee voted in acclimation to give the President all delegates .

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    Even the pigeons have MAGA hats .

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Even the pigeons have MAGA hats .
    LOL not sure who pulled that one but it was epical hilarious.



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