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    Thumbs up Trump budget would cut $4.4T in spending

    The White House on Sunday unveiled a $4.8 trillion budget proposal that would slash spending dramatically on foreign aid and social safety nets, while including $2 billion for a southern border wall and substantially boosting funding to NASA, the Department of Veterans Affairs and the Department of Homeland Security.
    Fox News has confirmed the details of the budget, which The Wall Street Journal first reported. The package, set to be formally announced on Monday, as-is stood little chance of passage in the House of Representatives, which the Democrats have controlled. Still, it served as a signal of the president's priorities as Republicans have aimed to retake the chamber in the 2020 elections.
    The plan aims to eliminate the federal deficit -- or the difference between spending and revenue that is slated to exceed $1 trillion this year -- by 2035. In all, the White House is seeking to cut $4.4 trillion in federal spending over the next 10 years, including reductions in spending on food stamps and federal disability benefits through more stringent work and eligibility requirements.

    Total cuts to "non-defense discretionary programs,” which do not include Medicare or Social Security, amount to $2 trillion in savings under the plan. The budget additionally calls for renewing the Trump administration's tax cuts for individuals and families that would otherwise expire in 2025. Modifications in Medicare prescription-drug pricing would account for $130 billion in savings.

    Foreign aid would be reduced by 21 percent, in keeping with the president's push to have other countries pay what he calls their "fair share" for their own defense.


    The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) would face a massive 26-percent reduction in funding. The Trump administration has rolled back Obama-era EPA regulations and oversight, saying they have hurt the economy for little benefit.
    The proposal also would cut the Department of Housing and Urban Development's budget by 15 percent, while incorporating $2.8 billion for grants to help combat homelessness. And, The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention would see a 9 percent cut, although its $4.3 billion allocation for fighting infectious disease would remain amid the coronavirus spread.

    More at: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...eland-security
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    Over the next 10 years.

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    Yeah, yeah heard it. "Never again." That was in 2018.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Over the next 10 years.
    It's a start.

    Congress won't pass anything better.........................Yet.
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

    The proposal is unlikely to become law, however, as Democrats control the House and spending bills in the GOP-led Senate need bipartisan support. Democrats signaled their opposition later Sunday to the administration’s budget plan, which Rep. John Yarmuth (D., Ky.), Chairman of the House Budget Committee, called “destructive and irrational.”

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

    The proposal is unlikely to become law, however, as Democrats control the House and spending bills in the GOP-led Senate need bipartisan support. Democrats signaled their opposition later Sunday to the administration’s budget plan, which Rep. John Yarmuth (D., Ky.), Chairman of the House Budget Committee, called “destructive and irrational.”
    Was the Jewish immigrant talking about the Speaker of the House?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Was the Jewish immigrant talking about the Speaker of the House?
    Mr. Yarmuth criticized Mr. Trump’s proposal as targeting “programs that help Americans make ends meet—all while extending his tax cuts for millionaires and wealthy corporations,” he said in a statement, adding that “Congress will stand firm against this President’s broken promises.”

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Budget analysts expect lawmakers to punt final decisions on 2021 spending until after the November election, and instead fund the government with temporary spending measures for the first few months of the fiscal year.

    Expect budget turmoil next Fall...

    NASA would see a 12% increase next year under Mr. Trump’s proposal as he seeks to fulfill his goal of returning astronauts to the moon by 2024. On the other hand, the Environmental Protection Agency’s spending would be slashed by 26%.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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    The White House proposes to cut spending by $4.4 trillion over a decade. Of that, it targets $2 trillion in savings from mandatory spending programs, including $130 billion from changes to Medicare prescription-drug pricing, $292 billion from safety-net cuts—such as work requirements for Medicaid and food stamps—and $70 billion from tightening eligibility access to disability benefits.

    See, here's the problem. Its all nice and good but during the next ten years we're going to have three different administrations. How much if any of this is going to stick? All it takes is an administration to reverse and/or undo what was previously done.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    TSee, here's the problem. Its all nice and good but during the next ten years we're going to have three different administrations. How much if any of this is going to stick? All it takes is an administration to reverse and/or undo what was previously done.
    The next administration will be Don Jr, then it will be Ivanka. Then maybe Rand. So we are good for at least the next 28 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    The next administration will be Don Jr, then it will be Ivanka. Then maybe Rand. So we are good for at least the next 28 years.
    Jim Jordan will be somewhere in there and then there is Eric and Barron.
    We won't need Ivanka.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Cutting foreign aid 21 percent should be applauded . Even the RPF Leftists should like that . The rest of it ( I did not read it ) may not be any good but that part is a great start .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The White House on Sunday unveiled a $4.8 trillion budget proposal that would slash spending dramatically on foreign aid and social safety nets, while including $2 billion for a southern border wall and substantially boosting funding to NASA, the Department of Veterans Affairs and the Department of Homeland Security.
    Fox News has confirmed the details of the budget, which The Wall Street Journal first reported. The package, set to be formally announced on Monday, as-is stood little chance of passage in the House of Representatives, which the Democrats have controlled.

    ...

    EM.

    This if confirmed as non-fakenews could be a game changer for launching small gummit and cutting national debt.

    National Debt Increased by $3 Trillion During Donald Trump's Three Years as President

    Trump's 2019 budget request includes increase in US foreign aid to Israel

    FEBRUARY 13, 2018

    "[For] Israel, the total is $3.3 billion, which is a $200 million increase from the previous year and reflects the newly signed 10-year MOU [memorandum of understanding]," he said. In September, the US and Israel signed a 10-year MOU providing $38 billion in defense aid to Israel through 2028.




    This if turned out to be a non-fake PR unlike 2nd amendment statements to win 2016 and he really did stand up to foreign firster lobbies/ slashed aid to global socialism parasite states, it would also help deflate far right conspiracy theories that claimed MAGA was a plant of globalist neocons groomed to fool GOP bases.







    As an additional plus, it also could help demolish any notions that slick talking politicians can fool GOP basse... no more.


    Jared Kushner 'admitted Donald Trump lies to his base because he thinks they're stupid'
    Trump's son-in-law said 'He just knows Republicans are stupid and they’ll buy it,' according to former New York Observer editor Maya Oppenheim
    • Wednesday 31 May 2017

    independent.co.uk/News/world/americas/jared-kushner-donald-trump-lied-base-stupid-voters-supporters-president-son-in-law-white-house-a7764791.html

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    per capita of the giving or receiving country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's a start.

    Congress won't pass anything better.........................Yet.
    As a "start", his "budget cuts" call for spending $4.8 trillion next year- which is $300 billion MORE than this year's $4.5 trillion budget. Cuts are always far into the future and never seem to happen. Smoke and mirrors. Fake campaign propaganda.

    The White House on Sunday unveiled a $4.8 trillion budget proposal
    They are also forecasting at least three percent growth for the next 15 years- when growth has not hit 3% for any year under Trump meaning they are heavily inflating revenue projections above what would be realistic. 2.9% was the highest under Trump (2015).

    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 02-10-2020 at 12:02 PM.

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    It's a far better Budget than proposed by anybody MSM Republican.
    It wouldn't pass since most Republicans (except the House Freedom Caucus) don't care about the National Debt.



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    I think the point is that with all of Trump's successes, there are many people here who don't care about any of those successes because "muh spending"

    What you don't seem to realize is that there isn't much Trump could do about that anyway, as this thread has demonstrated, so why complain about Trump not doing something that is not in the cards?

    If you want to cut spending, then it's a matter of getting fiscally conservative anti-war Republicans into the House and Senate. Sure, you could even get anti-war Democrats in where Republicans can't be elected, that would help too.

    This all seems pretty obvious to me, but there are so many people on this site who won't give Trump any credit for his successes because of this one issue that he doesn't really have control over.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    As a "start", his "budget cuts" call for spending $4.8 trillion next year- which is $300 billion MORE than this year's $4.5 trillion budget. Cuts are always far into the future and never seem to happen. Smoke and mirrors. Fake campaign propaganda.



    They are also forecasting at least three percent growth for the next 15 years- when growth has not hit 3% for any year under Trump meaning they are heavily inflating revenue projections above what would be realistic.
    While 3 - 4 percent sounds good I doubt that it will ever happen without eliminating a lot more regulation. To ever get those numbers even minimum wage probably needs eliminated . Cannot picture the current Pelosi lead house cutting restrictions to help people.
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I think the point is that with all of Trump's successes, there are many people here who don't care about any of those successes because "muh spending"

    What you don't seem to realize is that there isn't much Trump could do about that anyway, as this thread has demonstrated, so why complain about Trump not doing something that is not in the cards?

    If you want to cut spending, then it's a matter of getting fiscally conservative anti-war Republicans into the House and Senate. Sure, you could even get anti-war Democrats in where Republicans can't be elected, that would help too.

    This all seems pretty obvious to me, but there are so many people on this site who won't give Trump any credit for his successes because of this one issue that he doesn't really have control over.
    Trump wants to do huge spending cuts, to save money for things like a space force moon base
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I think the point is that with all of Trump's successes, there are many people here who don't care about any of those successes because "muh spending"

    What you don't seem to realize is that there isn't much Trump could do about that anyway, as this thread has demonstrated, so why complain about Trump not doing something that is not in the cards?

    If you want to cut spending, then it's a matter of getting fiscally conservative anti-war Republicans into the House and Senate. Sure, you could even get anti-war Democrats in where Republicans can't be elected, that would help too.

    This all seems pretty obvious to me, but there are so many people on this site who won't give Trump any credit for his successes because of this one issue that he doesn't really have control over.
    Trump had control of the Presidency, House, and Senate for two years. Cut nothing.

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    The country seriously may not even be capable of getting back to 3 percent. Think about it . We are on a run of 12 years since the crash . Things are as good as it gets . Plenty of work for everyone . If you want to get it better govt has to start getting out of the way of small business . Otherwise this is where you are until the next decline.
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump had control of the Presidency, House, and Senate for two years. Cut nothing.
    A middle school student who got a C in US history I think could point out the glaring mistake in this sentence.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    The country seriously may not even be capable of getting back to 3 percent. Think about it . We are on a run of 12 years since the crash . Things are as good as it gets . Plenty of work for everyone . If you want to get it better govt has to start getting out of the way of small business . Otherwise this is where you are until the next decline.
    Ya, that's a good point.

    Trump has done great work preparing the economy for the cuts.

    Do you really want to cut social programs when people aren't working like when he began his Presidency? Or do you want to cut them when record numbers of people are working?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump had control of the Presidency, House, and Senate for two years. Cut nothing.
    Welfare?
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump had control of the Presidency, House, and Senate for two years. Cut nothing.
    Republicans had the majority in the House and Senate before Trump was president too. Just because there is an R next to their name doesn't mean they are fiscal conservatives. They are definitely more likely to cut taxes than Democrats though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ya, that's a good point.

    Trump has done great work preparing the economy for the cuts.

    Do you really want to cut social programs when people aren't working like when he began his Presidency? Or do you want to cut them when record numbers of people are working?
    I think so . Now is the time to cut . People have the opportunity to earn what they need.
    Do something Danke

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    Trump is a big spending $#@! who is not being honest with the people. Not once did he mention the debt or deficit in his SOTU. This will come back to haunt him soon when the crash happens. it's going to be epic.

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    Lol with titles like this swordsmyth/fox news are clearly not making any attempt to hide their blatant propaganda.

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    Ron says exactly what i posted: They're lying again and the day of reckoning will come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Trump is a big spending $#@! who is not being honest with the people. Not once did he mention the debt or deficit in his SOTU. This will come back to haunt him soon when the crash happens. it's going to be epic.
    Does it matter what he said at the SOTU if he ends up significantly cutting government spending over the next 5 years?

    I don't understand why everybody wants Trump to be exactly like Ron Paul.

    Some day I want our President to be exactly like Ron Paul, I wish having a President Ron Paul right now would be effective.. but I don't see how that would get anything done at the moment.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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