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    The Official State Of The Union (SOTU) Thread

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    What to watch for during Trump's 2020 State of the Union address

    Washington (CNN) President Donald Trump is set to deliver his third official State of the Union address to the nation from the US Capitol on Tuesday at 9 p.m. ET, the night before the Senate is scheduled to render its verdict on his impeachment trial.

    Trump has used past addresses to highlight his administration's victories, target his political enemies and push forward on efforts to fulfill his vision for the country.

    But this Tuesday, Trump is expected underscore what his administration has done and what he claims Democrats have failed to do in the unique context of impeachment and election season.

    The President is banking on the strong US economy and trade deal victories to carry his reelection campaign to a win in November, and he's sure to highlight his wins on Tuesday.

    His approval rating among voters stands at 45% according to a recent CNN poll conducted by SSRS -- no worse than his approval rating in December and the highest it's been since July. And in December, 76% of individuals polled said they rated the economy very or somewhat good, indicating a shifting tide in Americans' economic outlook, which had remained tepid in the wake of the recession.

    Here's what to watch for during Tuesday's State of the Union:

    Impeachment

    Trump aides had once hoped the address would be an opportunity for vindication following a Senate acquittal, but the Senate won't hold its final vote on charges of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress until Wednesday -- the day after the President is scheduled to deliver his speech.

    Unlike President Bill Clinton, who apologized to the country after he was acquitted, people close to Trump say they anticipate he will continue to proclaim his complete and total innocence.

    Trump is likely to stick to his insistence that his conduct was "perfect," they said.

    "I don't see the President making a big statement one way or another that would indicate anything different than what he's been saying for many months," one Republican close to Trump said.

    A senior administration official laying out plans for the speech wouldn't divulge whether the President would bring up impeachment during his remarks, but they did say the speech isn't being written "in a vacuum" and "it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for the speech to evolve before it's delivered."

    Meanwhile, a handful of Republican senators said they hope Trump steers clear of impeachment talk during his address to the bipartisan audience.

    Staunch ally Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said it would be "smart" to focus on other issues, encouraged Trump to be "positive" and posited that "most people" are ready to move on from impeachment.

    "I hope he is, too, because I am," said Graham.

    Campaign pitch

    The overall theme of Trump's speech will be the "Great American Comeback," the senior administration official said. The President is expected to focus on what he sees as victories for his administration through the lens of election issues, such as the economy, health care and national security.

    The official said Trump is expected to focus on five areas: blue-collar workers, promoting and supporting families, lowering health care costs, immigration and protecting American families.

    The President is also expected to draw contrast between his beliefs and the proposed policies of Democrats.

    Specifically, the official said Trump is expected to contrast his health care policies with those on the "socialist" left, presenting a "sharp difference" with policies such as "Medicare for All," which has been touted by some Democratic presidential candidates.

    A mixed crowd

    Trump's speech is, of course, expected to be delivered in the presence of several members of Congress who are often at odds with the administration's policies. However, this year's speech will be a markedly more contentious year between the President and Democrats.

    It will likely mark the first time Trump and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi have been in the same room in months. Their relationship became more tense after Pelosi began the impeachment proceedings, and, according to a Pelosi spokesman, the two have not spoken since the October 16 meeting in which Trump insulted Pelosi, including calling her a "third-grade politician," before she and other top Democrats walked out and later accused the President of having a "meltdown."

    It will also likely mark the first time Trump will be in the same room as some of his Democratic opponents running for president. He's used recent interviews and speeches to unleash a litany of insults and attacks on his potential opponents, but the official previewing Trump's address wouldn't say whether he would do the same while speaking in the Senate chamber.

    "I won't preview if he's going to call anybody out but I think the President would be entirely comfortable with that," the official said.

    Coverage of the Democrats' Iowa caucuses will dominate televisions on Tuesday morning, potentially increasing the odds that Trump will use his high-profile speech to swipe at potential rivals.

    Checking in on past promises

    The President has used past State of the Union addresses to push new policy proposals, such as tax cuts, an infrastructure plan and health care revisions. Some of these proposals have been successful, while others have not.

    During the 2019 State of the Union, Trump called for "the great rebuilding of America's crumbling infrastructure." But he held off on moving ahead, saying he would move on it only after the US-Mexico-Canada trade agreement was passed by Congress. He signed the pact into law last week.

    In 2018, Trump touted the success of his new tax cuts, calling them the "biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history" and claiming they would be a boon to the economy. However, a combination of the reduced revenues due to the tax cuts and record-setting defense spending helped balloon the federal budget deficit to $1 trillion last year. More recently, the President has said he is considering cuts to entitlement programs as a means of debt reduction.

    And Trump, like other US presidents, has occasionally highlighted a potential moonshot policy. Last year, he vowed to end the HIV/AIDS epidemic by 2030 at the dais during the State of the Union. In December, the administration vowed to increase access to pre-exposure prophylaxis, or PrEP, drugs. According to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report published in December, progress was made in reducing the number of HIV infections prior to 2013. However, since then, the CDC said, the number has stalled at about 38,000 new infections every year.
    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/04/politics/what-to-watch-state-of-the-union-2020-donald-trump/index.html



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    Trump Job Approval at Personal Best 49%

    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- President Donald Trump's job approval rating has risen to 49%, his highest in Gallup polling since he took office in 2017.

    The new poll finds 50% of Americans disapproving of Trump, leaving just 1% expressing no opinion. The average percentage not having an opinion on Trump has been 5% throughout his presidency.

    Trump's approval rating has risen because of higher ratings among both Republicans and independents. His 94% approval rating among Republicans is up six percentage points from early January and is three points higher than his previous best among his fellow partisans. The 42% approval rating among independents is up five points, and ties three other polls as his best among that group. Democratic approval is 7%, down slightly from 10%.

    The 87-point gap between Republican and Democratic approval in the current poll is the largest Gallup has measured in any Gallup poll to date, surpassing the prior record, held by Trump and Barack Obama, by one point.

    The Jan. 16-29 poll was conducted in the midst of the Senate impeachment trial that will likely result in the president's acquittal. The poll finds 52% of Americans in favor of acquitting Trump and 46% in favor of convicting and removing him from office.
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/284156/...onal-best.aspx

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    I take it the Democrats will spend the majority of the SOTU sitting down and not clapping.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    This SOTU is going to be huge
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    Granted somewhat similar QE managed Wall Street and 'economy' boost, this SOTU does not look like Bush-Cheney bubble SOTU in 2005-06.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I take it the Democrats will spend the majority of the SOTU sitting down and not clapping.
    Probably true.

    But almost cetainly some Dems would be clapping.

    And hopefully, there would be no disrespecful 'You lie' shout as happened during Obama SOTU speech, that would be a game changer in a not so positive way.





    Update:

    2020 plot and presentation was quite different from the past years:

    Pelosi rips up Trump speech at conclusion of State of the Union


    Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Tuesday ripped up her copy of President Trump's prepared remarks at the conclusion of his State of the Union address.

    thehill.com/homenews/administration/481540-pelosi-rips-up-trump-speech-at-conclusion-of-state-of-the-union

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    This SOTU is going to be huge
    Its gonna be the most watched SOTU in the history of the US.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    White House announces Trump's guests for 2020 State of the Union

    The White House on Tuesday released the list of guests President Trump and first lady Melania Trump will host during the State of the Union address, including military veterans, a Gold Star family and a border patrol agent.

    Eleven individuals will attend the speech, according to the White House. Each individual's backstory relates to an aspect Trump is expected to highlight in his address.

    Tony Rankins and Paul Morrow are both Army veterans who have benefitted from the Opportunity Zones created through Republican tax cut legislation passed in late 2017.

    Kelli and Gage Hake are Oklahoma residents and the widow and son, respectively, of Army Staff Sgt. Christopher Hake, who was killed while serving in Iraq. The White House said Hake was killed by a roadside bomb supplied by Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani. The U.S. killed Soleimani last month in a drone strike.

    Trump is expected to discuss immigration and chastise sanctuary cities in his speech on Tuesday. One of his guests is Jody Jones a California resident whose brother was killed in late 2018 by an immigrant with a criminal history who was in the country illegally.

    Raul Ortiz, a deputy chief for U.S. Border Patrol, will also be in attendance.

    The president is also expected to urge Congress to push legislation related to school choice. Stephanie and Janiyah Davis are Philadelphia residents who will be in attendance on Tuesday night. The White House said Janiyah, who is in the fourth grade, has been stuck attending "low-performing" schools because the governor vetoed school choice legislation in Pennsylvania.

    Foreign policy will also play some role in Trump's speech. In an indication he will discuss the situation in Venezuela, the president is hosting Ivan Simonovis, who was the former chief of police in Caracas and was imprisoned for 15 years by the Maduro and Chavez regimes. He escaped Venezuela to the U.S. in 2019.

    Robin and Ellie Schneider will also be in attendance on Tuesday. Ellie was born prematurely at 21 weeks and six days and is one of the youngest babies to survive in the United States, the White House said.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...e-of-the-union

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Its gonna be the most watched SOTU in the history of the US.
    Could be even bigger than the Super Bowl

    Gonna be hosting a huge SOTU viewing party - and no, none of you are invited except SS & Dannno
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Granted somewhat similar QE managed Wall Street and 'economy' boost, this SOTU does not look like Bush-Cheney bubble SOTU in 2005-06.



    Probably true.

    But almost cetainly some Dems would be clapping.

    And hopefully, there would be no disrespecful 'You lie' shout as happened during Obama SOTU speech, that would be a game changer in a not so positive way.

    +rep everyone should be treating this momentous occasion with the dignity and decorum that it deserves
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    +rep everyone should be treating this momentous occasion with the dignity and decorum that it deserves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    -rep unsubstantiated rumor taken out of context. Trump has huge respect for the national anthem, the best respect, ask anyone.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    Prediction of the SOTU: The President will speak about how great his administration has done, how many jobs they "created", and how much peace there is in the world thanks to Him and His glorious policies. All this while breathing weird and the speech cadence of someone heavily dosed on psedeauephidrine.

    I am going to have to miss SS and Danno's SOTU partay.
    WILL NOT COMPLY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slave Mentality View Post
    I am going to have to miss SS and Danno's SOTU partay.
    You won't be missing much. They certainly won't have Rick Perry coming to their SOTU party
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    You won't be missing much. They certainly won't have Rick Perry coming to their SOTU party
    I said this in Dale Gribble's voice.
    WILL NOT COMPLY

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    Willing to bet the SOTU will end and we still won't know who won Iowa.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    He's going to enter any minute now

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    The neocons from both sides are lined up to shake his hand. Rush in the gallery.

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    Where’s Darth Bader?
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    They are what they hate.” - B4L


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Where’s Darth Bader?
    In the bacta chamber?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Where’s Darth Bader?
    Boycotting it.

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    They're chanting 4 more years for Nancy Pelosi as speaker of the house.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again



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    'American's enemies are on the run' - someone should tell that to the Taliban in Afghanistan

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    He's boasting about the economy which grew the slowest since the recession last year (2.3%)

    'Economy is best its ever been' - A flat out lie.

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    'The stock market has soared..'

    'an economic boom'

    The fed printing money is responsible for that...

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    'Rebuilding our country' - no mention of iraq or Afghanistan.

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    HAHHAHA

    He's introducing the puppet he wants to install in Venezuela

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    Juan Guido gives a blessing to the assembly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

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