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    Trump Signed USMCA, Now What?




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    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

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    This trade deal is modeled on the EU! It means sovereignty handed over to an unelected Commission.

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    This will fit perfectly with papers please optional mandated eVerify (and the UN stated goal by 2030 to have every man, woman and child with bio-id), restricting the freedom to travel freely unless tracked by government, and of course raising taxes to pay for it all. It is not the best solution, but at least it is the best solution than democrats proposing it all, to Protect our Liberty and Freedom.
    @Swordsmyth will be right along to explain how he does not like this, but that it is necessary, and to trust the plan. And The Don. Because “R”.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    This trade deal is modeled on the EU! It means sovereignty handed over to an unelected Commission.
    George W. Bush, in March 2005, signed the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) of North America also known as the North American Union (NAU).

    https://humanevents.com/2006/06/28/b...co-and-canada/
    http://www.newsfocus.org/nau.htm
    https://canadafreepress.com/article/...migos-less-one
    https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...-mexico-canada
    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.” ~ Charles Dickens

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    George W. Bush, in March 2005, signed the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) of North America also known as the North American Union (NAU).

    https://humanevents.com/2006/06/28/b...co-and-canada/
    http://www.newsfocus.org/nau.htm
    https://canadafreepress.com/article/...migos-less-one
    https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...-mexico-canada
    Yes, and now Trump signed this hot mess.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Yes, and now Trump signed this hot mess.
    This new one cancels the others out.
    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.” ~ Charles Dickens

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    Law of the Sea Treaty and other international treaties that Congress has refused to ratify over the years incorporated into the agreement:

    In addition to the Vienna Convention, Chapter 24 on the “Environment” subordinates the authority of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), otherwise known as the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST). According to the UN’s Division of Ocean Affairs and Law of the Sea, which is tasked with administrating the convention, it claims that LOST covers “all ocean space,” including everything located on, in, beneath, and above the oceans.

    In the 1980s, even President Ronald Reagan recognized that LOST was an effort to promote world government, and as a result refused to sign it. On April 24, 2004, Jeane Kirkpatrick, who previously served as President Reagan’s U.S. ambassador to the UN from 1981 to 1985, testified before the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee, in opposition to Senate ratification of LOST. Kirkpatrick argued that “its ratification will diminish our capacity for self-government, including, ultimately, our capacity for self-defense.” However, in 2007, then-President George W. Bush urged the Senate to ratify it. The Senate refused. And on May 23, 2012, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, under President Obama, also urged for its ratification before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. But as of 2019, the U.S. Senate has still refused to ratify the UN convention.

    However, the Law of the Sea Treaty is mentioned in Chapter 24 of the USMCA. According to the chapter’s Article 24.18, under “Sustainable Fisheries Management,” the United States, Mexico, and Canada are required to base their fishing management practices in accordance with the Law of the Sea Treaty. In the name of protecting fishes and other marine life, the United States would have to surrender its sovereignty over all of its waterways and miles of coastal oceans (including everything under, on, in, and above them) over to the jurisdiction of UN international law.
    MORE ANALYSIS:

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/world...y-in-the-usmca



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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    This new one cancels the others out.
    By implementing something even stronger.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

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    The more you read the USMCA the worse it gets. Wait until people wake up to whats in that 3000 page 'agreement' I think there will be a massive backlash...

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    Knowing Trump, it's probably 3000 pages of pure awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    By implementing something even stronger.
    Uh, no, if that were the case then Rand wouldn't have voted for it.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    This new one cancels the others out.
    Yep. The new one incorporates all the Agenda 2030 goodies that the old ones didn't.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Yep. The new one incorporates all the Agenda 2030 goodies that the old ones didn't.
    'Free Trade' Commission to overrule Congress!

    Fishing rights and coastal waters to be SHARED...

    Environmental regulations to bypass Congress/President...

    And Much more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Yep. The new one incorporates all the Agenda 2030 goodies that the old ones didn't.
    Do you and TheCount and zippy ever rep each other?

    Do you find it at all odd always being on their side nowadays?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    'Free Trade' Commission to overrule Congress!

    Fishing rights and coastal waters to be SHARED...

    Environmental regulations to bypass Congress/President...

    And Much more...
    It's not a bypass of congress if congress passed it. Its also something Congress can repeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    It's not a bypass of congress if congress passed it. Its also something Congress can repeal.
    Once you cede sovereignty you dont get it back...

    Britain had been a member of the EU for 47 years before voting to LEAVE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Do you and TheCount and zippy ever rep each other?

    Do you find it at all odd always being on their side nowadays?
    In typical free-thinking libertarian fashion, I find myself aligned with different people on different topics at different times quite often. It's liberating not being mentally corralled into a pre-defined box of thought.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Knowing Trump, it's probably 3000 pages of pure awesome
    Make sure you read all 3000 pages so we can know that for sure. I'd read them myself but I got a low attention span.
    Last edited by Anti Globalist; 01-30-2020 at 12:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Make sure you read all 3000 pages so we can know that for sure. I'd read them myself but I got a low attention span.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Do you and TheCount and zippy ever rep each other?

    Do you find it at all odd always being on their side nowadays?
    YOU MEAN HOW ZIPPY & THE COUNT NEVER INSULT OTHERS OR CALL NAMES? TRY IT- YOU MIGHT MAKE MORE FRIENDS.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    YOU MEAN HOW ZIPPY & THE COUNT NEVER INSULT OTHERS OR CALL NAMES? TRY IT- YOU MIGHT MAKE MORE FRIENDS.
    TheCount mocks people all the time. That's pretty much seems to be his primary purpose here.

    90% of the time when you accuse me of name calling, it never actually happened. Apparently I just made an argument so well that some how you felt that it insulted your intelligence or something, I guess.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    USMCA helps us negotiate better deals with China so that they stop eating our lunch. It also has a sunset so its not permanent.
    The Sunset clause is the best part.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Uh, no, if that were the case then Rand wouldn't have voted for it.
    I hope so.
    I hope he voted for it so that the sunset clause would end it, NAFTA had no sunset clause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    YOU MEAN HOW ZIPPY & THE COUNT NEVER INSULT OTHERS OR CALL NAMES? TRY IT- YOU MIGHT MAKE MORE FRIENDS.
    Professional workers have no choice but to stick to their specific offices, policies.
    If the stampman tells you to kiss his ass, shall he get away with it and live? Don't let your courage cool, or a few bullies scare you. We've nothing to fear but slavery. Love your liberty, and fight for it like men who know its value. Once lost it will never, never be regained.
    -Hugh Ledlie, 1774.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Uh, no, if that were the case then Rand wouldn't have voted for it.
    Okay.

    So.

    What's the difference between NAFTA and the USMCA, then?
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

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