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    Exclamation NYT poll: Bernie with substantial lead in NH and IA

    Bernie Sanders Jumps to Huge Lead in New Hampshire

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-elect...new-hampshire/

    JOHN NOLTE 25 Jan 2020

    A poll from the far-left New York Times shows Bernie Sanders leaping to a seven-point lead in Iowa.

    At the present, the impeachment hoax is keeping the 487-year-old Marxist out of Iowa — and away from all campaigning. As a sitting U.S. Senator, the Commie with the bad ticker is required by law to sit in the Senate during President Trump’s impeachment trial.

    Nevertheless, Bernie-mentum is breaking out all over.

    According to the latest New York Times/Siena poll, Bernie enjoys 25 percent support in Iowa. In a distant second place is Mean Little Mayor Peter Buttigieg at 18 percent. Slow Joe Biden sits at 17 percent. The Fake Indian Elizabeth Warren is at 15 percent. Everyone else is in single digits.

    Of interest is the movement in this particular poll, since it was last taken less than three months ago.

    Way back then, it was the Fake Indian in the lead; Warren enjoyed 22 percent support. So she has taken a real dive of seven points since. Bernie jumped six points. Biden didn’t budge at all.

    Currently, the RealClearPolitics (RCP) poll of polls in Iowa shows that Bernie is less than a point away from first place Joe Biden, 20 points to 19.3 points.

    Bernie’s momentum is not just in Iowa.

    In New Hampshire, the RCP poll of polls has Sanders in the lead at 22 percent, with second-place Joe Biden at 18 percent.

    However, the most recent poll out of New Hampshire has Sanders up a whopping 12 points — 29 percent to second-place Buttigieg’s 17 points.

    Bernie is also on the movie nationally. What we have here is basically a Democrat dogfight between two very old white guys — Biden and Bernie.

    In the RCP poll of national polls, Biden is in first place with 29 percent support. Bernie is in second with 23 percent. Warren is in third place but still far behind, with just 15 percent support.

    The most recent national poll, from Emerson, shows the race a virtual tie: Biden 30, Bernie 27.

    Right now, all the latest polling shows real momentum for Sanders — and at exactly the right time. We are less than two weeks away from when the actual voting begins in Iowa.

    What’s more, this polling proves the recent media jihad against Bernie, all that nonsense about him telling Warren a woman can’t win, is backfiring. What’s more, Bernie’s surge appears to be coming at the expense of Lieawatha, which means the far-left vote, the anti-Biden vote is coalescing around the recent heart attack victim.

    There is talk now that the Democrat establishment is so freaked about the possibility of Bernie winning the primary, former President Barry Obama is thinking of coming out and publicly opposing Sanders. Boy, would that be a mistake. Cuck-in-Chief Mitt Romney tried that against Donald Trump in 2016, and the resentment it engendered with the base — even among some who didn’t vote for Trump — was palpable, and it still is.

    Regardless of party, I cannot think of anything primary voters would resent more than The Machine rising up to sabotage their pick.

    As much as the media and elites resent it, at the end of the day, it is still we the people who choose our leaders.

    My two cents? Bernie is a bigger threat to Trump than Biden. Biden is a doddering old fool who represents yesterday. He has no real constituency.

    Bernie is a movement candidate, a change candidate with a very real and very energetic base of support.

    But the fact that I see an ancient socialist as a bigger threat to Trump than any of the other Democrats — that just tells you just how pathetic the 2020 Democrat field is.



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    Somehow I hope Sanders dies on the campaign trail.

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    Just as expected

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Somehow I hope Sanders dies on the campaign trail.
    I hope Sanders win the Democrat nomination as they finally embrace the natural conclusion of their stupid ideas... and then Trump crushes Bernie in a landslide re-election as American voters reject their dangerous Marxist ideas. Its something to wish for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I hope Sanders win the Democrat nomination as they finally embrace the natural conclusion of their stupid ideas... and then Trump crushes Bernie in a landslide re-election as American voters reject their dangerous Marxist ideas. Its something to wish for.
    I think Trump would win over Sanders, but it would be close.

    In 1972 Nixon, who was almost universally despised, bogged down in Vietnam, with a horrible economy, ran against George McGovern, who, at the time, was considered a far left loony.

    Today, he would to the right of Biden.

    McGovern lost every state except MA and DC.

    A Bernie ticket today, with him running as an openly communist, government should own the means of production, throw capitalists in jail, USSR loving candidate, would win the following states without question: CA-OR-WA-IL-ME-VT-MA-CT-RI-NY-NJ-MD-DE-DC and with a good chance of picking up CO-NM-NH-MN-MI.

    That's twenty states with over half the nation's population.

    Shows how far gone we are.

    Give it another ten years of immigrant invasion from violent failed socialist states to the south of us, and it's lights out.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 01-25-2020 at 03:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I think Trump would win over Sanders, but it would be close.

    A Bernie ticket today, with him running as an openly communist, government should own the means of production, throw capitalists in jail, USSR loving candidate, would win the following states without question: CA-OR-WA-IL-ME-VT-MA-CT-RI-NY-NJ-MD-DE-DC and with a good chance of picking up CO-NM-NH-MN-MI.
    How many electoral votes is that? Any idea?

    I think it will be close too. Trump won MI by less than 10,000 votes similar to PA and WI,... and this was against Clinton who was a terrible candidate.

    He only won FL by 1%, a reliable red state with huge electoral votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    How many electoral votes is that? Any idea?

    I think it will be close too. Trump won MI by less than 10,000 votes similar to PA and WI,... and this was against Clinton who was a terrible candidate.

    He only won FL by 1%, a reliable red state with huge electoral votes.
    About 185, off the top of my head.

    222 if he picked up every state I posted.

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    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 01-25-2020 at 02:59 PM.

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    Bernie will win CO because the former governor is on the ticket for US Senate and Cory Gardner will lose.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I think Trump would win over Sanders, but it would be close.

    In 1972 Nixon, who was almost universally despised, bogged down in Vietnam, with a horrible economy, ran against George McGovern, who, at the time, was considered a far left loony.

    Today, he would to the right of Biden.

    McGovern lost every state except MA and DC.

    A Bernie ticket today, with him running as an openly communist, government should own the means of production, throw capitalists in jail, USSR loving candidate, would win the following states without question: CA-OR-WA-IL-ME-VT-MA-CT-RI-NY-NJ-MD-DE-DC and with a good chance of picking up CO-NM-NH-MN-MI.

    That's twenty states with over half the nation's population.

    Shows how far gone we are.

    Give it another ten years of immigrant invasion from violent failed socialist states to the south of us, and it's lights out.
    I sure hope that Americans aren't this far gone. Makes me glad that Trump is getting control of the border. More foreign citizens that don't value liberty and instead want socialism... I shudder to think of it. More immigrants from Hong Kong and people that still value freedom is what we should be bringing in.

    With some luck the voters of CO-NM-NH-MN-MI will agree that jobs and prosperity are better than the Obama food stamp days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Somehow I hope Sanders dies on the campaign trail.
    Moms Demand Action is probably hoping for martyrdom through a more politically helpful way.

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    Bernie has a deep communist past, he can easily clean up the democommie primary (duh) but he is not general election tested. They will rip him to shreds, hitting him with questions of communist ties in every interview and debate question, not to mention how hard Trump will hit him with attacks and ads. Ol' Comrade Bernie will be left with an embarrassing legacy.

    I think Bernie would be an early Christmas gift to Trump.
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    Bernie will bring about a more free market in the US than Trump. Hence the reason I wouldn't mind having him as my next president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Somehow I hope Sanders dies on the campaign trail.
    I want him to win the nomination. I can't think of any worse of a match up against Trump. Bernie actually looks like he could die on the campaign trail. He makes 2012 Ron Paul look like an Olympic gymnast in comparison.



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