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Thread: On National Religious Freedom Day, Trump Expands Religious Freedom

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    This just reinforces the insinuation that the government has control over freedom.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    This just reinforces the insinuation that the government has control over freedom.
    Exactly.

    The gov has no place in education.
    There is no spoon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    This just reinforces the insinuation that the government has control over freedom.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Exactly.

    The gov has no place in education.
    TDS on display.
    This may not be perfection but it is a step in the right direction and it reinforces NOTHING, the precedent that government could control religious expression was already set and this weakens it.
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    TDS on display.
    This may not be perfection but it is a step in the right direction and it reinforces NOTHING, the precedent that government could control religious expression was already set and this weakens it.
    There you go again with your insulting bull$#@!.
    There is no spoon.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    There you go again with your insulting bull$#@!.
    If the shoe fits it's not an insult..

    Trump does something good and you agree with a nonsense criticism of it.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Which has nothing to do with protecting the right of others to pray.

    But you have to find some way to portray any good thing Trump does as bad.

    This thread is turning into a great TDS detector.
    Quoting scripture on how Jesus says to pray, has nothing to do in a thread about a religious freedom push by evangelicals? Sure, gotcha

    We shouldn't get bogged down on the school part, here is the thing that should stand out

    " It warned state governments not to discriminate against religious organizations and affirmed that the granting of federal funds by Executive Branch agencies likewise will not discriminate against them."

    Which religious group is going to get some federal funds that they were previously not qualified to get? Which lobby was pushing for this?
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    the precedent that government could control religious expression was already set
    The religious expression of a teacher or other school official who uses it to proselytize in class or in school activities should be controlled.
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    Quoting scripture on how Jesus says to pray, has nothing to do in a thread about a religious freedom push by evangelicals? Sure, gotcha

    We shouldn't get bogged down on the school part, here is the thing that should stand out

    " It warned state governments not to discriminate against religious organizations and affirmed that the granting of federal funds by Executive Branch agencies likewise will not discriminate against them."

    Which religious group is going to get some federal funds that they were previously not qualified to get? Which lobby was pushing for this?
    So you want government to discriminate against religions?

    Either nobody should be getting the money or everyone should. (nobody would be better)
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    The religious expression of a teacher or other school official who uses it to proselytize in class or in school activities should be controlled.
    That's not what happens, the left tries to keep anyone from expressing their religion at all. (unless they are trying to promote some non-Christian religion like Islam, then they are allowed to promote their religion)
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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