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Misleading title.
.
There has been no declaration or authorization.
'it makes no sense', he says
He says that Congress voted for an act of war against Iran, that's the same thing as a declaration.
19:57
"A declaration of war again does not necessarily mean a piece of paper that says 'we have declared war against you', under the founders' understanding war is declared when there are actions that create a war"
And they have declared themselves at war with us:
The IRGC declares itself to be at war with us.
The new leader of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' elite Quds Force once boasted that U.S. troops have “suffered more losses from us than we have suffered losses from them” and has repeatedly ripped President Trump and America’s allies.
Brigadier Gen. Esmail Qaani, 62, now spearheads the special military unit following the death of Gen. Qassem Soleimani, who was killed Thursday in a U.S. airstrike at Baghdad International Airport in Iraq. He had served as Soleimani’s deputy commander since 1997 – and the Treasury Department says he has used his power to direct funding toward terrorist groups like Hezbollah.
Qaani, like many other Iranian government and military officials, also has a history of making hostile and inflammatory statements against the U.S.
“America has suffered more losses from us than we have suffered losses from them,” the Middle East Institute quoted him as saying during a 2017 ceremony in commemoration of Iranian forces and Iranian-backed militias battling in Syria and Iraq.
More at: https://www.foxnews.com/world/esmail...ce-iran-us-foe
The original IRANIAN source:
https://www.tasnimnews.com/fa/news/1...AF%D9%87%D8%AF
Translated:
https://translate.google.com/#view=h...8%A7%D9%85%2F*
"The war we have with the United States has been successful in standing up and resisting in the country because we are in the province," Qaani said
He was a uniformed member and leader of an organization that brags about being at war with us and killing us, he was in Iraq while our people were being killed and our embassy was attacked and was accompanying uniformed members and leaders of the groups carrying out those attacks, groups that his group helped to create, fund and direct.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Must suck living in a state where straws are banned when you're grasping at them.
His point is that sanctions are an act of war, so if we are going to incite war we need to declare it. It's like you've never heard a single word he said.
Engaging in an act of war is declaring war.
We should leave and stop the war but Congress put us at war with Iran.
19:57
"A declaration of war again does not necessarily mean a piece of paper that says 'we have declared war against you', under the founders' understanding war is declared when there are actions that create a war"
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Ron said that Congress engaged in an act of war against Iran, that's the same thing as declaring war against Iran.
They debated whether to impose sanctions and they declared sanctions imposed, if sanctions are an act of war as Ron declares them to be then Congress debated war and declared it.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Stop watching videos and read the damned document. You should (but you won't) discover that the constitution draws distinctions between "declaring," "levying" and "engaging in" war.
Or maybe you can stop occupying this land you don't belong in, warring with Ron Paul's real supporters. Just leave. Try your own personal non-interventionism, Trumpette.
No its not. If it was truly an act of war then Congress has to debate, vote and declare it. There is no debate , vote or declaration so no war. The last time it happened was in the 1940's, perhaps you should read history.
On December 11, 1941, the United States Congress declared war upon Germany (Pub.L. 77–331, Sess. 1, ch. 564, 55 Stat. 796), hours after Germany declared war on the United States after the attack on Pearl Harbor by the Empire of Japan.[1] The vote was 88–0 in the Senate and 393–0 in the House.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...Germany_(1941)Seventy-Seventh Congress of the United States of America;
At the First Session Begun and held at the City of Washington, on Friday, the third day of January, 1941.
JOINT RESOLUTION Declaring That a State of War Exists Between The Government of Germany and the Government and the People of the United States and Making Provisions To Prosecute The Same
Whereas the Government of Germany has formally declared war against the Government and the people of the United States of America: Therefore be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the state of war between the United States and the Government of Germany which has thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally declared; and the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the Government to carry on war against the Government of Germany; and, to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States.
(Signed) Sam Rayburn, Speaker of the House of Representatives
(Signed) H. A. Wallace, Vice President of the United States and President of the Senate
Approved December 11, 1941 3:05 PM E.S.T.
(Signed) Franklin D. Roosevelt[2]
Engaging in or levying war automatically declares war.
And if you want to nitpick then the fault is all on Congress for starting a war and not issuing the proper paperwork, Trump has a right and a duty to defend Americans in the war Congress started whether they didn't file the proper paperwork or not.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Not according to the constitution, which clearly you haven't actually read. I will say it again: the constitution clearly draws distinctions between declaring, levying and engaging-in. Sanctions are engaging in, but not declaring. That was Pauls objection to them.
Now go away.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
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No, read this carefully:
A sanctions Bill does not equate to a declaration of war. A declaration of war is a separate resolution like the one ive shown you from 1941. Ron is CORRECT that sanctions are an act of war and leads to future conflict. You are simply confused.
Governor of the Central Bank of Iran (CBI) Mahmoud Bahmani has said that CBI considers the sanctions as a declaration of war
Quote the part that you think negates what I said.
Congress started a war whether they filed the proper paperwork or not.
Jefferson never got a declaration of war against the Barbary pirates because a state of war existed whether our Congress issued a declaration or not.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
An act of war starts a war and Congress voted for one, the lack of an official declaration is a problem for Congress not Trump.
Jefferson never got a declaration of war against the Barbary pirates because a state of war existed whether our Congress issued a declaration or not.
Congress started a war with Iran and Trump must protect out people from the Iranians that Congress started a war with.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Trump has no authorization to strike without Congress approving of it. He is not a dictator or a King. The founders put it in the constitution for a reason.
You won't listen. I'm done and will leave you with what Amash wrote :
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
What the $#@! is going on here anymore? This place has been over run by a demented version of John McCains ghost.
"The Patriarch"
I don't think that you can honestly believe that Ron Paul was protesting the fact that we declared war via sanctions while he was simultaneously protesting the fact that we hadn't declared war. That makes no sense.
Of course engaging and levying is not declaring, which is the exact point Ron Paul was making. His point is that Congress should not be imposing sanctions because it's an act of war, but they had not declared war. Of course, you aren't here to support Ron Paul, you're here to support Trump so obviously you are not going to agree with Ron Paul on very much.
Article III, Section 3, Clause 1 : Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.
Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3 No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
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