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    Trump impeachment: House sends historic case to Senate

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51126431

    There is no way they vote to remove him- it takes two thirds so almost 20 Republicans would have to vote along with the Democrats.

    The US House of Representatives has passed a resolution to submit articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump to the Senate for a trial.

    The resolution passed largely along party lines by 228 votes to 193.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will sign a copy of the measure with the newly announced team of lawmakers who will prosecute the case against Mr Trump.

    The House impeached the president last month. The Senate will decide whether to convict and remove him from office.

    The Senate trial will be only the third of a US president in history.

    While Democrats control the House, Mr Trump's fellow Republicans hold sway in the Senate 53-47, and are all but certain to acquit him.

    It remains to be seen how the case could influence the president's campaign for re-election this November.

    Mrs Pelosi, who launched the impeachment inquiry in September, said on the House floor before the vote: "We are here today to cross a very important threshold in American history."

    All Republicans voted against the resolution to transmit the articles of impeachment. Only one Democrat, Collin Peterson of Minnesota, did not vote in favour.

    Democrats were joined by Justin Amash of Michigan, a former Republican who left the party to become an independent.

    The Republican leader in the House, Kevin McCarthy of California, said Democrats were trying to remove the president with the "weakest case". He called it a "sad saga".

    Mrs Pelosi appeared earlier at a news conference with the seven "managers" who will prosecute the Democratic case against the Republican president. They will be led by Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House intelligence committee.

    The six others are Jerrold Nadler, head of the House judiciary committee, Hakeem Jeffries of New York, Zoe Lofgren of California, Jason Crow of Colorado, Val Demings of Florida and Sylvia Garcia of Texas. The seven will ceremonially walk the articles of impeachment across the Capitol to the Senate later on Wednesday.

    White House lawyers Pat Cipollone and Jay Sekulow have been tipped to lead the president's defence team. The Republican leader of the Senate, Mitch McConnell, said opening statements in the trial were expected next Tuesday.

    Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts will be sworn in to preside, and he will administer an oath to all 100 senators to deliver "impartial justice" as jurors.

    During an event at the White House, Mr Trump rejected the charges as a "hoax".

    The president was impeached by the House on 18 December, on accusations of abuse of power and obstruction of congress. He denies trying to pressure Ukraine's leader during a phone call on 25 July last year to open an investigation into his would-be Democratic White House challenger Joe Biden.

    Mr Trump has been touting unsubstantiated corruption claims about Mr Biden and his son, Hunter, who accepted a lucrative board position with a Ukrainian energy firm while his father handled American-Ukraine relations as US vice-president.

    Mr Biden is one of a dozen candidates campaigning for the Democratic Party's White House nomination.

    The Senate trial could still be under way in early February when Iowa and New Hampshire hold the first contests to pick the eventual Democratic presidential candidate.

    In the news conference, Mrs Pelosi defended her decision to hold off submitting the impeachment articles to Congress for more than three weeks as she quarrelled with Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell about the trial rules, and even fellow Democrats urged her to stop stalling.

    "Time has been our friend in all of this, because it has yielded incriminating evidence, more truth into the public domain," she told reporters.

    As Mrs Pelosi spoke, Mr Trump tweeted to call the process a "Con Job by the Do Nothing Democrats".
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    Well on the bright side for me , satans minions ( dem house members ) were not working on anymore " free " stuff while they worked on this on the negative side I doubt any of them will be punished for playing partisan politics on the taxpayer dime as they are probably all heavy communist districts .
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    Doesn't change the fact that Trump isn't going anywhere.
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    Senate Asks Pelosi If She Can Send Over Copy Of Impeachment Articles Without Wine Stains All Over It

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    ...
    There is no way they vote to remove him- it takes two thirds so almost 20 Republicans would have to vote along with the Democrats.
    Let's assume that there are enough GOP Senators that break ranks and Trump is convicted in the Senate. Trump is removed from office, Pence takes over.

    A few questions:

    How would that affect the GOP primary race for POTUS 2020? Is Trump ineligible to run (from a technical/legal perspective) for the party nomination or the general election? If so, is it too late for GOP candidates to enter the race? Would the GOP be essentially stuck with Bill Weld?
    I compiled a "brief" history of events since October 2008 that are defining the global currency war and the role that gold is playing:

    Tin Foil Hats, Economic Reality and the Total Perspective Vortex

    Also, have you contacted your Congressional Rep and asked them co-sponsor Ron Paul's Rep. Paul Broun Jr.'s HR 1098 77: Free Competition in Currencies Act?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51126431

    There is no way they vote to remove him- it takes two thirds so almost 20 Republicans would have to vote along with the Democrats.
    Yep.. And it was a complete farce clown show from day one.
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    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.


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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
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    luv.... you gotta admit you want to steal THOSE lil pens from her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Yep.. And it was a complete farce clown show from day one.
    Richard M. Nixon had his historic POTUS election landslide in 1972 but by 1974 many GOP members in Congress
    began to side with the Democrats. I admit, 3 years ago, this all looked highly improbable if not impossible, but if
    i factor in what happened to RMN in 1973, i was placing the odds of a likewise at 50/50. All D.J Trump has to do
    is something incredibly stupid over the next three weeks and half the GOP could bolt out from underneath Mitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bern View Post
    Let's assume that there are enough GOP Senators that break ranks and Trump is convicted in the Senate. Trump is removed from office, Pence takes over.

    A few questions:

    How would that affect the GOP primary race for POTUS 2020? Is Trump ineligible to run (from a technical/legal perspective) for the party nomination or the general election? If so, is it too late for GOP candidates to enter the race? Would the GOP be essentially stuck with Bill Weld?
    The Constitution :

    Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
    Is the Presidency considered an "Office of honor, Trust, or Profit"? If so, he could not run again.

    Republicans choose the rules for selecting their candidate- they would have to decide what to do about the 2020 election and selecting a candidate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We would be much better off if Republicans had had the instincts to be immigration hawks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Is the Presidency considered an "Office of honor, Trust, or Profit"?
    Honor - Legislative
    Trust - Judicial
    Profit - Executive

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    Trump hires Epstein lawyer Alan Dershowitz and Clinton prosecutor Ken Star who also represented Epstein. They helped Epstein evade prison in his previous trial. Trump likes celebrity lawyers (and celebrity in general).

    https://www.nhpr.org/post/how-jeffre...rison#stream/0

    Epstein avoided major punishment for his crimes, due to a deal his lawyers worked out with the then-district attorney in Miami, Alexander Acosta. Acosta is now President Trump’s labor secretary and he oversees agencies charged with stopping human trafficking.

    Epstein pled guilty to two felony charges in state court. In exchange, he and his associates received immunity from federal sex-trafficking charges, and the investigation was sealed — hiding Epstein’s crimes from the view of the public and other victims.

    Epstein had a heavy-hitting team of attorneys, including Alan Dershowitz and Kenneth Starr. And Epstein’s privileges didn’t stop with his sentencing.

    More from the story:

    Unlike other convicted sex offenders, Epstein didn’t face the kind of rough justice that child sex offenders do in Florida state prisons. Instead of being sent to state prison, Epstein was housed in a private wing of the Palm Beach County jail. And rather than having him sit in a cell most of the day, the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office allowed Epstein work release privileges, which enabled him to leave the jail six days a week, for 12 hours a day, to go to a comfortable office that Epstein had set up in West Palm Beach. This was granted despite explicit sheriff’s department rules stating that sex offenders don’t qualify for work release.
    It is good to have friends in high places.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-17-2020 at 01:01 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We would be much better off if Republicans had had the instincts to be immigration hawks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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