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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    This is from your link



    Again, he has been in the govt for years and apart from calling for bailed out banks to be nationalized, he hasn't done anything to bring about govt owning major privately owned companies

    Goldman notes that Sanders does not advocate public ownership of the means of production nor does he seek to abolish the profit system, both of which Goldman considers to be defining characteristics of socialism
    From my POV, he is just as tax and spend Democrats with flares of socialism. He is bad but not a communist
    So I give you a quote from Sanders that says democracy means owning the means of production, you pull a quote from somebody else that says he doesn't really mean that.

    Look I know this man well, I live in the next state over, I know his stance, I know his positions, I've seen him speak.

    Your POV is wrong.



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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    And? do you also believe Trump would be impeached seeing as the house already passed article of impeachment against him. Some people just cannot see the forest for the trees. SMDH
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  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    So I give you a quote from Sanders that says democracy means owning the means of production, you pull a quote from somebody else that says he doesn't really mean that.

    Look I know this man well, I live in the next state over, I know his stance, I know his positions, I've seen him speak.

    Your POV is wrong.
    You are wasting your breath.



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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Bernie is a tax and spend social Democrat. The difference between him and your run of the mill communist is that he doesn't want to own the means of production. He just wants his cut of the profit so he can use it to create a govt that would take care of society.
    Bernie also isn't a Democrat. Bernie is proudly an Independent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Bernie also isn't a Democrat. Bernie is proudly an Independent.
    An independent Communist as a point of fact.

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    So I give you a quote from Sanders that says democracy means owning the means of production, you pull a quote from somebody else that says he doesn't really mean that.

    Look I know this man well, I live in the next state over, I know his stance, I know his positions, I've seen him speak.

    Your POV is wrong.
    Srry AF, I was on my phone when I accessed the link and did not get a good view of the whole link. Anyway, I went back to look at it and there are two quotes from him about the means of production. One says this

    1987 quote
    Democracy means public ownership of the major means of production, it means decentralization, it means involving people in their work. Rather than having bosses and workers it means having democratic control over the factories and shops to as great a degree as you can.
    and

    2015 quote
    I don’t believe government should take over the grocery store down the street or own the means of production. But I do believe that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a decent standard of living and that their incomes should go up, not down. I do believe in private companies that thrive and invest and grow in America, companies that create jobs here, rather than companies that are shutting down in America and increasing their profits by exploiting low-wage labor abroad.
    So we have two quotes that seem to contradict each other and we can argues which quote better represents his political belief until the cows come home. But we can try a different method. How about looking at the man's actions? he has been in govt for decades and has supported and sponsored hundreds of bills. How about we look and see if he has sponsored or supported any bills that call for the nationalization of any private business. I have looked and I cannot find any.

    Instead he has talked about nationalizing the banks but has yet to make a move on it. If you ask me, he doesn't really believe it. But then again, you can correct me by showing me with his actions how the 2015 statement is not representative of his current beliefs.
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  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Srry AF, I was on my phone when I accessed the link and did not get a good view of the whole link. Anyway, I went back to look at it and there are two quotes from him about the means of production. One says this

    1987 quote


    and

    2015 quote


    So we have two quotes that seem to contradict each other and we can argues which quote better represents his political belief until the cows come home. But we can try a different method. How about looking at the man's actions? he has been in govt for decades and has supported and sponsored hundreds of bills. How about we look and see if he has sponsored or supported any bills that call for the nationalization of any private business. I have looked and I cannot find any.

    Instead he has talked about nationalizing the banks but has yet to make a move on it. If you ask me, he doesn't really believe it. But then again, you can correct me by showing me with his actions how the 2015 statement is not representative of his current beliefs.
    This should tell you all you need to know about Sanders and monetary policy.

    Sanders agreed to modify the measure in a way that requires audits of the Fed during the financial crisis but not of the bank's monetary policy.

    On his Facebook page, Paul lashed out at Sanders. Paul is a longtime critic of the Fed, and pushed audit legislation in the House that drew more than 300 cosponsors.

    "Bernie Sanders has sold out and sided with [Sen.] Chris Dodd to gut Audit the Fed in the Senate. His 'compromise' is what the administration and banking interests want," Paul wrote on Facebook.

    Paul said transparency of the Fed's interest rate decisions are important.

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    This should tell you all you need to know about Sanders and monetary policy.

    Sanders agreed to modify the measure in a way that requires audits of the Fed during the financial crisis but not of the bank's monetary policy.

    On his Facebook page, Paul lashed out at Sanders. Paul is a longtime critic of the Fed, and pushed audit legislation in the House that drew more than 300 cosponsors.

    "Bernie Sanders has sold out and sided with [Sen.] Chris Dodd to gut Audit the Fed in the Senate. His 'compromise' is what the administration and banking interests want," Paul wrote on Facebook.

    Paul said transparency of the Fed's interest rate decisions are important.
    The argument is not whether sanders is a good guy but if he is a communist that wants to nationalize major industries.
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  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Is this really where we've gone?

    We're actually forming impressions based on campaign volunteers off-hand statements?

    A sign of the times... how ludicrous......

    The simple fact is, Bernie Sanders wouldn't be able to get 90% of his program through Congress.
    Which is a good thing... because the Presidency is NOT supposed to do much ANYWAY!!!!!!!
    Lol people here still think Bernie is just an innocent Scandinavian democratic socialist?

    You just uninformed of his entire history painted in red?

    His exposed followers only continue to confirm that Bernie is a commie

    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    How can anybody believe that anyone seriously running for POTUS is going to bring back the gulag? from the looks of it, this guy is probably an infiltrator or a crazy person who happens to work for Bernie. The man was paid 11k in 6 months, that is no high level consultant or anyone you would imagine sitting in Bernies inner circles. Think of it this way, if the powers that be wanted to re-educate people, the last thing they will do is create a physical structure like the gulag where people are going to be locked in. For one, it is going to be very expensive, it is very bad PR, it requires a lot of man power (think secret police). The gulag is antiquated compared to the level of brainwashing we have today. Read my lips, this guy's rambling is has no reflection on what Bernie Sander's is going to do as president.

    Wake the f*ck up guys because you guys are being taken for a bad ride by project veritas.
    *says every Bernie Bro*
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Bernie will bring about a more free market in the US than Trump. Hence the reason I wouldn't mind having him as my next president.

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Srry AF, I was on my phone when I accessed the link and did not get a good view of the whole link. Anyway, I went back to look at it and there are two quotes from him about the means of production. One says this

    1987 quote


    and

    2015 quote


    So we have two quotes that seem to contradict each other and we can argues which quote better represents his political belief until the cows come home. But we can try a different method. How about looking at the man's actions? he has been in govt for decades and has supported and sponsored hundreds of bills. How about we look and see if he has sponsored or supported any bills that call for the nationalization of any private business. I have looked and I cannot find any.

    Instead he has talked about nationalizing the banks but has yet to make a move on it. If you ask me, he doesn't really believe it. But then again, you can correct me by showing me with his actions how the 2015 statement is not representative of his current beliefs.
    Only a true Bernie Bro believer would continue to dissect minutiae like this after I've already given you proof of Bernie's Communist past.

    Yet you just keep trying to find a way to weasel out of it.

    Look,

    - You've already stated you would vote for Bernie
    - Also tried to sell Bernie's positions as Scandinavia's version of cute small town socialism.
    - You're well known on RPF to praise Venezuela, Cuba and other social-commie nations that their systems work but don't only due to US intervention.

    All of the same things somebody as radical as Kyle Jurek would say if he was talking to the public.


    https://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-b...ard-communist/

    While attending the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

    After graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Bernie will bring about a more free market in the US than Trump. Hence the reason I wouldn't mind having him as my next president.



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Lol people here still think Bernie is just an innocent Scandinavian democratic socialist?

    You just uninformed of his entire history painted in red?

    His exposed followers only continue to confirm that Bernie is a commie



    *says every Bernie Bro*
    Like I have said a million times now. The man has said that he wants a Scandinavian style economic system and I have to take the man at his words, its just what I do . And if he fails to fulfill his campaign promises then we can all blame the deep state, DINOs and republicans for it. Btw, it has been argued by people on this site that they have a capitalistic type system. Yea, socialized healthcare, govt owned oil companies, govt run pension system, free post secondary education ..... and they are still very capitalistic.

    Again, the gulags are not ever coming to the US. They were discontinued even in the Soviet Union, it is expensive, it is very bad PR and it is not very effective. Modern leader have much more sophisticated ways of taking care of trouble makers. So Bernie's supporters can talk about it till the cows come home and you will never see anything like the gulag in the US.

    Bookmark this page and come back to me when they create it in the US. I am a fairly young age man in good health, I can wait a really long time.
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  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Like I have said a million times now. The man has said that he wants a Scandinavian style economic system and I have to take the man at his words, its just what I do . And if he fails to fulfill his campaign promises then we can all blame the deep state, DINOs and republicans for it. Btw, it has been argued by people on this site that they have a capitalistic type system. Yea, socialized healthcare, govt owned oil companies, govt run pension system, free post secondary education ..... and they are still very capitalistic.

    Again, the gulags are not ever coming to the US. They were discontinued even in the Soviet Union, it is expensive, it is very bad PR and it is not very effective. Modern leader have much more sophisticated ways of taking care of trouble makers. So Bernie's supporters can talk about it till the cows come home and you will never see anything like the gulag in the US.

    Bookmark this page and come back to me when they create it in the US. I am a fairly young age man in good health, I can wait a really long time.
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  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Only a true Bernie Bro believer would continue to dissect minutiae like this after I've already given you proof of Bernie's Communist past.

    Yet you just keep trying to find a way to weasel out of it.

    Look,

    - You've already stated you would vote for Bernie
    - Also tried to sell Bernie's positions as Scandinavia's version of cute small town socialism.
    - You're well known on RPF to praise Venezuela, Cuba and other social-commie nations that their systems work but don't only due to US intervention.

    All of the same things somebody as radical as Kyle Jurek would say if he was talking to the public.


    https://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-b...ard-communist/
    Lies and more lies from the man who thinks everybody who disagrees with him is a communist. I am surprised you can see through the red to create this post.

    I have never said that I will vote for Bernie and I never praised the Venezuelan or Cuban economic system. I just said that the reason why it was failing has more to do with sanctions than the govt owning majority stake in their oil company.

    Since we have contradictory statements from Bernie which cancels each other out, how about you look through his long list of bill sponsored or supported and tell me how many calls for the govt to own any means of production. Go on, I will wait for you to reply.
    Last edited by juleswin; 01-18-2020 at 07:47 PM.
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    Trust principles; not people.
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  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Lies and more lies from the man who thinks everybody who disagrees with him is a communist.
    No actually I always gave you the benefit of the doubt but your words in this thread today combined with your words in the past, led me to a certain conclusion.

    You have said you would vote for Bernie and tried to cover it up by saying it was "for the lols", in fact you doubled down on your Bernie vote masking it under a pretense that it would be more free market than the US. A vote for the bern is a vote for the bern no matter how you explain it and no matter how many "lols" it brings you.

    You have made LONG posts regarding the failures of social-commie nations as only due to western intervention, not due their own dysfunctional devices. Another communist talking point.

    You have tried to sell Bernie's communism as soft democratic socialism with a heavy welfare state offset by a marketplace freer than the US. Another social-commie talking point for the masses.

    On top of all that, now you're trying to convince that just because ol' Bernie possibly has not sponsored corporate takeovers by the government, that his hands are clean despite all of his affiliations. He knows very well (something you have no clue about) that coming out the closet will hurt his political career so he cloaks himself as an independent and pretends to be a soft-socialist.

    So you can keep crying lies lies lies, the people who have seen your posts know if they're lies or not.

    All of what you're trying to sell is what the commies over at r/socialism and r/communism fool others with day in and day out.

    Let's not forget Bernie Sanders campaigned for and was an elector for the communist Socialist Workers Party. Yea, you can't get anymore commie than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Bernie will bring about a more free market in the US than Trump. Hence the reason I wouldn't mind having him as my next president.

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    No actually I always gave you the benefit of the doubt but your words in this thread today combined with your words in the past, led me to a certain conclusion.

    You have said you would vote for Bernie and tried to cover it up by saying it was "for the lols", in fact you doubled down on your Bernie vote masking it under a pretense that it would be more free market than the US. A vote for the bern is a vote for the bern no matter how you explain it and no matter how many "lols" it brings you.

    You have made LONG posts regarding the failures of social-commie nations as only due to western intervention, not due their own dysfunctional devices. Another communist talking point.

    You have tried to sell Bernie's communism as soft democratic socialism with a heavy welfare state offset by a marketplace freer than the US. Another social-commie talking point.

    On top of all that, now you're trying to convince that just because ol' Bernie possibly has not sponsored corporate takeovers by the government, that his hands are clean despite all of his affiliations.

    So you can keep crying lies lies lies, the people who have seen your posts know if they're lies or not.

    All of what you're trying to sell is what the commies over at r/socialism and r/communism fool others with day in and day out.
    His excuse for his old Che avatar was never convincing either.
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  21. #78
    Understand that GULAG was, despite being many other terrible things, was a system of organized labor. Those people who went into GULAG were more than merely inconvenient to the new regime, it was a lottery system of filing quotas. In the modern age, in America, there is no need for labor. Thus, our experience will be something other, and more fatal, than even GULAG.

    There used to be the joke that we'd recognize each other in the camps by our posting handles here. Maybe, if the afterlife is made up of camps.

    Has Uncle Bernie addressed this rhetoric?

  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    No actually I always gave you the benefit of the doubt but your words in this thread today combined with your words in the past, led me to a certain conclusion.
    What you lack is context in this episode, so this time last election, I was one of the people shouting through the roof tops that Trump was a fraud that he will do not the good things that he said he will do during the campaign and some of the "sensible" Trump supporters would say things like. Yea, Trump may not be who he said he is but I am still going to vote for him because it will be hilarious seeing how the liberals react to him. Essentially, voting for Trump for the lulz. Posts like the ones you think is proof of me saying i'll vote for Bernie is me mocking those people. Lemme give you a history of my voting record. I became a citizen around the 07 and after registering to vote, the only person I have ever voted for the presidency is Ron/Rand Paul. I have written their name in every single time I get the chance. I did not vote for Trump even with the allegedly anti interventionist stance because I thought he was lying and you think that I will vote for Bernie? Btw, the war issue is my number one political topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    You have said you would vote for Bernie and tried to cover it up by saying it was "for the lols", in fact you doubled down on your Bernie vote masking it under a pretense that it would be more free market than the US. A vote for the bern is a vote for the bern no matter how you explain it and no matter how many "lols" it brings you.
    Again, you are missing the context behind this post too. Again during the Venezuela debate, I had people who told me that socialist Norway with its socialized healthcare system, free post secondary education, govt run pension system, govt owned oil companies were not socialized and in fact they withe their low regulation, ease of starting business, lower corporate taxes were more free market than the US. Ofc, I do not for one second believe socialized based mixed economy Norway is more free market than the US. So to those people, I made the post using that logic that if Bernie was to implement Norway's system then it would be more free market than the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    You have made LONG posts regarding the failures of social-commie nations as only due to western intervention, not due their own dysfunctional devices. Another communist talking point.
    This one is true, I think Venezuela's problem today is mainly due to the sanction and economic warfare imposed by the US. Modified socialism mixed with elements of capitalism can work especially when you have valuable natural resources backing it up. Libya, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman, UAE, Norway are examples of it and in other cases where there are no big natural resources can manage along for a long time without catastrophic failure if you don't introduce US sanctions and embargoes.


    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    You have tried to sell Bernie's communism as soft democratic socialism with a heavy welfare state offset by a marketplace freer than the US. Another social-commie talking point for the masses
    I believe Bernie is a soft socialist, he just wants to introduce big social programs and tax the private corporations for it. I don't think he will ever take over large means of production like say Caterpillar, Kellogs, Coca cola etc. He just want to tax them and use their money to fund the sort of programs he likes. I also don't think he will ever start up the gulag system in the US. Again you are correct on this, I don't think he is a communist just a soft socialist that wants to tax the hell out of you.

    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    On top of all that, now you're trying to convince that just because ol' Bernie possibly has not sponsored corporate takeovers by the government, that his hands are clean despite all of his affiliations. He knows very well (something you have no clue about) that coming out the closet will hurt his political career so he cloaks himself as an independent and pretends to be a soft-socialist.
    So he knows its unpopular and that is why he will do it when he becomes president. Are we forgetting that he will need the house and senate to achieve this goal? and if its unpopular then how is he going to get away with it? wouldn't his supporters turn against him if he tries to push this unpopular communist policies on the people? I can imagine him going for this like a carbon tax which sadly is kinda popular with the kids and increased corporate taxes. No taking over of the means of production, no gulags etc

    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    So you can keep crying lies lies lies, the people who have seen your posts know if they're lies or not.

    All of what you're trying to sell is what the commies over at r/socialism and r/communism fool others with day in and day out.

    Let's not forget Bernie Sanders campaigned for and was an elector for the communist Socialist Workers Party. Yea, you can't get anymore commie than that.
    I am the guy who put a Che avatar when it was very unpopular to do so, I lost friends for it and I have a good segment of the board who wouldn't talk to me because of it and I still stood my ground. I have Solemani now but Che will return when this whole Iran thing dies down. Believe me, if I supported Bernie or planned to vote for him, I will not deny it when someone brought it up. So I will make it clear to you now, I am not a socialist or communist and I will not vote for Bernie under any circumstance even for the lulz. I think its supremely stupid and irresponsible to vote for a president because it triggers the other side or makes up for the lulz. When I said it, I was mocking the people who said they were going to vote for Trump for the lulz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    His excuse for his old Che avatar was never convincing either.
    ditto



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    Juleswin is a Nigerian.. Like anybody in America should really give a s.h.i.t. what he thinks or says.

    CHe it up buddy... Whatever you like.

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  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I believe Bernie is a soft socialist, he just wants to introduce big social programs and tax the private corporations for it. I don't think he will ever take over large means of production like say Caterpillar, Kellogs, Coca cola etc.
    I disagree. It's not like it hasn't happened before in this country.

    He just want to tax them and use their money to fund the sort of programs he likes. I also don't think he will ever start up the gulag system in the US. Again you are correct on this, I don't think he is a communist just a soft socialist that wants to tax the hell out of you.
    We already got a GULAG.

  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post

    Again, you are missing the context behind this post too. Again during the Venezuela debate, I had people who told me that socialist Norway with its socialized healthcare system, free post secondary education, govt run pension system, govt owned oil companies were not socialized and in fact they withe their low regulation, ease of starting business, lower corporate taxes were more free market than the US. Ofc,
    I am the only person who brings these stats up. I never once said or implied that Norway was more capitalistic or even close to being more capitalistic than the United States.

    You can do a quick advanced search with my name and Norway to show that is false. You repeat this often even though it was never said by me.


  29. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Jules claims to be a Nigerian student and nurse living in Nebraska.

    Whoever he is, he ain't that.
    hmm.. good to know.. thanks

  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Jules claims to be a Nigerian student and nurse living in Nebraska.

    Whoever he is, he ain't that.
    Ya, I think he is really a Liberian.
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    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I disagree. It's not like it hasn't happened before in this country.
    Govt taking over of private corporation has happened here before? was that during peace time? if yes to both, please clue me in. I need to update my knowledge on this issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    We already got a GULAG.
    Question, is there any country where this gulag doesn't exist?
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.



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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Ghanan maybe...
    Didn't you once accuse me of being an Eduardo sock account? shouldn't that make me spanish?
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    I am the only person who brings these stats up. I never once said or implied that Norway was more capitalistic or even close to being more capitalistic than the United States.

    You can do a quick advanced search with my name and Norway to show that is false. You repeat this often even though it was never said by me.

    It wasn't just you. There were several threads on the issue and other people also chimed in on how Scandinavia countries were actually capitalist in spite of all their welfare programs.
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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