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    Trump Brags About Serving Up American Troops to Saudi Arabia for Nothing More Than Cash

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    During President Donald Trump’s interview with Fox News’ Laura Ingraham on Friday, the president spoke about his positive relationship with Saudi Arabia, including how the country is paying to use American troops. Conservative Rep. Justin Amash (I-Mich.), who until recently was a Republican, responded to Trump’s remarks in a tweet, saying, “He sells troops.”

    Saudi Arabia is paying us for [our troops]. We have a very good relationship with Saudi Arabia,” Trump said. “I said, listen, you’re a very rich country. You want more troops? I’m going to send them to you, but you’ve got to pay us. They’re paying us. They’ve already deposited $1 billion in the bank.

    Trump continued, talking about U.S. troops as, essentially, mercenaries. “We are going to help them, but these rich countries have to pay for it. South Korea gave us $500 million… I said, ‘You gotta help us along. We have 32,000 soldiers in South Korea protecting you from North Korea. You’ve gotta pay.'”

    Amash has been a vocal critic of the president and voted in favor of impeachment. He has made this criticism of Trump before. On Meet the Press in October, Amash said Trump’s use of the troops has broken his campaign promise to bring them home. “There are people who support the president, who believe things he says, but it’s pretty clear he’s not bringing home the troops. He’s just moving them to other parts of the Middle East,” Amash said.

    He added, “He’s moving troops back into Iraq, he’s moving other troops into Saudi Arabia and using our forces almost as mercenaries, paid mercenaries who are going to come in, as long as Saudi Arabia pays us some money, it’s good to go.”
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    $#@! Saudi Arabia. They're the actual biggest sponsors of terrorism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    $#@! Saudi Arabia. They're the actual biggest sponsors of terrorism.
    Along with Israel as well...
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    As long as we are going to be there we should be compensated.
    It's far better than making the American public pay for it.
    It will also encourage other countries to defend themselves and send us home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    As long as we are going to be there we should be compensated.
    It's far better than making the American public pay for it.
    It will also encourage other countries to defend themselves and send us home.
    As long as we're going to be there? I'm having a hard time restraining myself on this. As long as we're going to be there? Didn't Orange man run on getting us out of forever war? Didn't Orange man make this a centerpiece of his campaign?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    As long as we're going to be there? I'm having a hard time restraining myself on this. As long as we're going to be there? Didn't Orange man run on getting us out of forever war? Didn't Orange man make this a centerpiece of his campaign?
    He had been bringing our troops home and he will get back to that.
    But he was never going to bring all of them home at once and it's better to be compensated for the ones that are not home yet than to make the American public pay for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He had been bringing our troops home and he will get back to that.
    But he was never going to bring all of them home at once and it's better to be compensated for the ones that are not home yet than to make the American public pay for it.
    He had been bringing our troops home and he will get back to that.
    Rudy Trump's lawyer who gave MEK public freedom from being removed as terrorist group is now very happy that Trump is willing to start a regime change in Iran all this time.

    But he was never going to bring all of them home at once
    Of course not thats why he left the troops in Syria to take their oil and give it to the terrosits in Syria who had just attacked Aleppo today? its a shame Trump backs the Syrian HTS jihadists in Syria.

    What Trump did in the middle east and in Iraq will be his downfall in election you will see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    As long as we're going to be there? I'm having a hard time restraining myself on this. As long as we're going to be there? Didn't Orange man run on getting us out of forever war? Didn't Orange man make this a centerpiece of his campaign?
    2011

    We protect them. We have soldiers in Saudi Arabia. They don't pay us for anything. -Trump

    Believe me, there won't be so much tax necessary as there is right now because we are a whipping post. We are being ripped off by the rest of the world to the tune of trillions, by the way trillions of dollars. I'm not talking about the old word billions. I'm talking about the new word trillion. -Trump

    I was watching the other day. You know, we've spent all this money and all those lives in Iraq. They hate us, they hate us, they can't get rid of us fast enough. By the way as soon as they leave you know, as soon as we leave, Iran is going to take over the oil. -Trump

    Good luck with it. Run with it. In the old days, when you had wars you win, right? You win, to the victor belong the spoils. When we go to Iraq, we spend a trillion for so far and thousands of lives are lost, right? And not to mention all the poor guys and gals with one arm and no arm and all the pap's, right? We're going to leave, and as sure as you're sitting there, Iran is going to come over, take over not only Iraq but perhaps more importantly to them take over the second biggest oil fields in the world, right? And I like the old system better. -Trump


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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    As long as we're going to be there? I'm having a hard time restraining myself on this. As long as we're going to be there? Didn't Orange man run on getting us out of forever war? Didn't Orange man make this a centerpiece of his campaign?
    Don't bother. He keeps repeating the same sh1t over and over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Don't bother. He keeps repeating the same sh1t over and over.

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    If it was that easy we could have done it anytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    As long as we're going to be there? I'm having a hard time restraining myself on this. As long as we're going to be there? Didn't Orange man run on getting us out of forever war? Didn't Orange man make this a centerpiece of his campaign?
    No he didn't. He campaigned from both sides of his mouth and some here bought the bridge and ignored half of his statements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    As long as we're going to be there? I'm having a hard time restraining myself on this. As long as we're going to be there? Didn't Orange man run on getting us out of forever war? Didn't Orange man make this a centerpiece of his campaign?
    You have to suck harder. The slurping sound drowns out the noise of the bombs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    As long as we are going to be there we should be compensated.
    It's far better than making the American public pay for it.
    It will also encourage other countries to defend themselves and send us home.
    What do you mean, "We"? Are you admitting that you work for his reelection campaign?

    Because if Saudi money for troops is going to anyone but Trump campaign headquarters, I'd like to see proof of it.

    It looks to me like the man is admitting to sending the armed forces places, at taxpayer expense, for bribes. Prove me wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What do you mean, "We"? Are you admitting that you work for his reelection campaign?

    Because if Saudi money for troops is going to anyone but Trump campaign headquarters, I'd like to see proof of it.

    It looks to me like the man is admitting to sending the armed forces places, at taxpayer expense, for bribes. Prove me wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What do you mean, "We"? Are you admitting that you work for his reelection campaign?

    Because if Saudi money for troops is going to anyone but Trump campaign headquarters, I'd like to see proof of it.

    It looks to me like the man is admitting to sending the armed forces places, at taxpayer expense, for bribes. Prove me wrong.
    Prove your idiotic charges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Prove your idiotic charges.
    You see charges--idiotic or otherwise--in that post?

    Here's what a charge looks like, for your edification: "You are an idiot.". That was merely an example, of course.

    Are you going to give us any reason at all to believe he was talking about the Saudis putting money in the U.S. Treasury, not his bank account (he did mention a bank), for these mercenary services?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 01-13-2020 at 05:55 PM.
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    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You see charges--idiotic or otherwise--in that post?

    Here's what a charge looks like, for your edification: "You are an idiot."
    It looks to me like the man is admitting to sending the armed forces places, at taxpayer expense, for bribes.
    That is a charge.

    Try backing it up.
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    Political gamesmanship.

    If Trump just brings the troops home, he'll be declared a "coward" by the neocons and the MSM. If the Saudi people demand their government stop spending millions of dollars for US Troops and build their own army, the neocons and neolibs can't call out Trump for deserting our "ally".

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    Quote Originally Posted by revgen View Post
    Political gamesmanship.
    34D chess. This $#@!er play them like a fiddle. Pelosi started reading the script and is like WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by revgen View Post
    Political gamesmanship.

    If Trump just brings the troops home, he'll be declared a "coward" by the neocons and the MSM. If the Saudi people demand their government stop spending millions of dollars for US Troops and build their own army, the neocons and neolibs can't call out Trump for deserting our "ally".
    bottom line...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    As long as we're going to be there? I'm having a hard time restraining myself on this. As long as we're going to be there? Didn't Orange man run on getting us out of forever war? Didn't Orange man make this a centerpiece of his campaign?
    Did you see in the Laura Ingram interview Trump bragged about taking Syria's oil even after Laura tried to give him a chance to walk that back? What's laughably is that @Swordsmyth thought that was a good interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Did you see in the Laura Ingram interview Trump bragged about taking Syria's oil even after Laura tried to give him a chance to walk that back? What's laughably is that @Swordsmyth thought that was a good interview.
    Where did I say it was a good interview?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    As long as we are going to be there we should be compensated.
    It's far better than making the American public pay for it.
    It will also encourage other countries to defend themselves and send us home.
    So now Congress can't even cut off funding to stop a war. We've officially become a nation of pirates (taking Syrian oil) and mercenaries.



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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    If it was that easy we could have done it anytime.
    It is that easy. The only rate limiting step is having the right POTUS.

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    I'm not sure if he's referring to the petrodollar recycling scheme (SA buys Treasuries with dollars from oil sales) or if he's saying that the military is nothing more than Hessians now. Needs more context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Where did I say it was a good interview?
    Well you posted it and only had good things to say about it. But maybe I misread your optimism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Well you posted it and only had good things to say about it. But maybe I misread your optimism.
    My post was to point out a specific part.
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    https://www.vox.com/2020/1/14/210654...-arabia-troops

    Trump: Saudi Arabia paid the US $1 billion for more troops. Pentagon: Eh, not quite.

    During an interview on Laura Ingraham’s Fox News show Friday night, President Donald Trump made a stunning announcement: Saudi Arabia was paying the US $1 billion to send US troops to defend it from Iran.

    “We’re sending more [troops] to Saudi Arabia, and Saudi Arabia is paying us for it,” Trump said. “I said, ‘Listen, you’re a very rich country. You want more troops? I’m going to send them to you, but you have to pay us.’ They’re paying us. They’ve already deposited $1 billion in the bank.”

    Critics, including Rep. Justin Amash (I-MI), slammed the move, accusing Trump of using American troops as “paid mercenaries.” “He sells troops,” Amash tweeted.

    On MSNBC, Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) raised the possibility that Trump deposited the Saudi money in a personal bank account and said the president is “selling our soldiers as mercenaries to foreign governments.”

    “It’s outrageous,” Lee added. “He does not deserve to be the commander in chief of the United States of America.”

    As is often the case when it comes to Trump, the details of this purported transaction with Saudi Arabia are murky. Ingraham didn’t ask any follow-up questions about it, and Trump didn’t offer any additional details.

    Though the Pentagon did announce last October that it would send troops to Saudi Arabia to defend the country against Iran, there had been no reporting about Saudi Arabia financially compensating the US.

    Trump’s comments immediately raised questions: Into which bank account did Saudi Arabia deposit the $1 billion? What exactly are US troops doing over there? And did this transaction even happen, or was the president just making stuff up?

    Days later, we’ve learned a bit more about what Trump was talking about. And it seems that the president, as he often does, was exaggerating.

    In a statement to Vox, Pentagon spokesperson Cmdr. Rebecca Rebarich said, “The Department of Defense has engaged Saudi Arabia on contributing to US activities that support regional security and dissuade hostility and aggression.”

    But the statement did not specify whether any sort of financial transaction took place — on the contrary, it said that “discussions are ongoing to formalize these contributions.”

    Here’s Rebarich’s statement in full:

    Consistent with the president’s guidance to increase partner burden-sharing, the Department of Defense has engaged Saudi Arabia on contributing to US activities that support regional security and dissuade hostility and aggression. The Saudi government has agreed to contribute to the costs of these activities, and discussions are ongoing to formalize these contributions. Contributions of this nature do not lead to the deployment of additional US forces, and they do not drive DoD to take on new missions or responsibilities.
    “Discussions are ongoing” is quite different than Trump’s unequivocal claim that Saudi Arabia had “already deposited $1 billion in the bank.”

    Trump’s comments came during an interview in which he bragged about war crimes, told blatant lies about the FBI, and said he feels no obligation to publicly detail the intelligence underpinning his decision to approve a military strike against an Iranian official that brought the country to the brink of war.

    Any of those remarks from the mouth of the president would’ve likely generated a major scandal in a previous era. But three years in, Trump has normalized gaslighting and authoritarian rhetoric to such an extent that this interview with Ingraham barely registered as a blip on the news radar.
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