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    Iran Bulldozed Plane Crash Site Before Outside Investigators Arrived

    CBS News reported on Friday that Iranian “scavengers” have “scrubbed” the site where a Ukrainian passenger jet came down outside Tehran before outside investigators could examine the evidence. “Virtually all debris” was removed before outsiders were allowed on the scene.
    CBS crew just visited the #Ukrainian airlines crash site west of Tehran. Nine am local time. Virtually all pieces of the plane were removed yesterday – say locals. Scavengers now picking site clean. No security. Not cordoned off. No sign of any investigators. pic.twitter.com/hhNJyokhjq
    — Elizabeth Palmer (@elizapalmer) January 10, 2020
    While CBS primarily complained about “scavengers” randomly plucking debris from the site and highlighted the inexplicable lack of security, U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell called the Iranian regime out for deliberately destroying evidence, linking to German-language reports about bulldozers on the scene:
    No one knows how to clean up a site before the inspectors come better than the Iranians. #PS752 https://t.co/PBOFzwDnYL
    — Richard Grenell (@RichardGrenell) January 9, 2020
    CBS reports indicated large portions of the downed aircraft’s fuselage have been removed from the site, which would be difficult to explain as the work of random scavengers rushing to grab a few souvenirs.
    Iranian Ambassador to the United Kingdom Hamid Baeidinejad on Friday denied bulldozers were clearing the crash site, even though they have been captured in photographs and video recordings.
    (Deleted previous tweet to clarify terminology)
    Images of heavy machinery in use at the #PS752 crash site: right (35.561029, 51.104018) and left (35.559296, 51.104630)
    Sources: https://t.co/FKfLwnbePQhttps://t.co/n8nUUT75SH pic.twitter.com/rJmGdsYsg8
    — Giancarlo Fiorella (@gianfiorella) January 9, 2020
    Furthermore, Iranian media outlets have posted photos of objects removed from the crash site and neatly arranged for convenient display.
    At a news conference on Friday, Iranian officials displayed what they claimed was one of the “black box” flight recorders recovered from the aircraft and said it could take “one or two months” to recover its data, while a full investigation of the incident could take “one or two years” to complete.
    The regime originally said it would not share the black boxes with U.S. officials or the American manufacturer of the plane, Boeing, but later it appeared to back away from that position and indicated it might be willing to share the boxes, or at least the data it claims to extract from them, with foreign investigators.

    More at: https://www.breitbart.com/national-s...ators-arrived/
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    Persians do not plan on telling its citizens they killed those people. Canada will have to squeeze them hard but will get nothing . Business as usual for a place like that ( typical commie regime ) .
    Do something Danke

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    Video appears to show missile strike as Canada and UK say they have intel Iran shot down Ukrainian plane

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/09/polit...ane/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Persians do not plan on telling its citizens they killed those people. Canada will have to squeeze them hard but will get nothing . Business as usual for a place like that ( typical commie regime ) .
    Nor different from American gov lying to the American people like Trump is doing now.

    Canada will have to squeeze them hard
    I am sure a regime change in Iran is exactly what everyone and NeoCons on this forum wants now. Good luck with your stupid mess that Americans started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Video appears to show missile strike as Canada and UK say they have intel Iran shot down Ukrainian plane

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/09/polit...ane/index.html
    A very questionable video as i stated in my own thread on it. The fact the missiles looks like a manpad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Nor different from American gov lying to the American people like Trump is doing now.


    I am sure a regime change in Iran is exactly what everyone and NeoCons on this forum wants now. Good luck with your stupid mess that Americans started.
    I could care less about a regime change in iran , I would not expect another to be better . I am just glad I do not live there . I do not think it matters which 7th century guy is in charge .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I could care less about a regime change in iran , I would not expect another to be better . I am just glad I do not live there . I do not think it matters which 7th century guy is in charge .
    Yes well Saudi Arabia lives in a 6th Century but Iran is an enemy because Iran is not allowing America to do whatever it wants in the middle east thats why they are angry and want Iran to obey and let America whatever it wants in the region without any resistance..



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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Yes well Saudi Arabia lives in a 6th Century but Iran is an enemy because Iran is not allowing America to do whatever it wants in the middle east thats why they are angry and want Iran to obey and let America whatever it wants in the region without any resistance..
    I have lived in Saud . PLace is a $#@!hole . I have no interest in any of them . The Canadians however are going to have an interest in the 63 dead citizens on that plane .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I have lived in Saud . PLace is a $#@!hole . I have no interest in any of them . The Canadians however are going to have an interest in the 63 dead citizens on that plane .
    The Canadians however are going to have an interest in the 63 dead citizens on that plane .
    Yes that maybe true, but dont expect us Canadians to be dragged into your little WW3 war march which neocons wanted since 1960s..

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    Why would I believe any of the info my government is putting out now?
    If Ron, Rand or Massie can't confirm it, it's all just, yeah, maybe, maybe not.

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    Trying to avoid the liability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Yes that maybe true, but dont expect us Canadians to be dragged into your little WW3 war march which neocons wanted since 1960s..
    I am not thinking the Canadians will invade Persia , the Iranians are not as well .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I am not thinking the Canadians will invade Persia , the Iranians are not as well .
    Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Video appears to show missile strike as Canada and UK say they have intel Iran shot down Ukrainian plane

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/09/polit...ane/index.html
    Video Shows the plane blow up,,,with NO SIGN of any missile.. Though possible internal explosion.

    I watched it several times the night it happened.. Plane was already going down when the side explodes just before the ground impact at speed..
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    A very questionable video as i stated in my own thread on it. The fact the missiles looks like a manpad.
    And that one does not Show the Plane Crash which was recorded on cell phone.

    The plane is visible and going down,, and there is a burst from the side of the plane just before it makes impact..

    That footage could be Fireworks in Kentucky. for all their credibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Video Shows the plane blow up,,,with NO SIGN of any missile.. Though possible internal explosion.

    I watched it several times the night it happened.. Plane was already going down when the side explodes just before the ground impact at speed..
    According to Syrian girl the orignal video of this video which the MSM outlets are spreading like was edited out. In the video you see dogs barking oddly but not because of the object. I still fail to see a missile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    And that one does not Show the Plane Crash which was recorded on cell phone.

    The plane is visible and going down,, and there is a burst from the side of the plane just before it makes impact..

    That footage could be Fireworks in Kentucky. for all their credibility.
    Exactly. This could be also be shoot in Syria the Syrian girl also questioned the timing on the video when it was filmed. The MSM yet still wants to make you believe that it was Iran. I would agree with the Syrian girl i find it highly suspicious this video was filmed in Iran. Everything seems like a movie set or stage. The actors are all in place ready for their next script.

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    So why did Iran bulldoze the crash site?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So why did Iran bulldoze the crash site?
    I don't know that they did..

    I don't immediately believe Known liars without evidence..It is just as likely that the debris was moved to investigate,,possibly reconstruct the wreck.

    I find it suspicious too,,but tend to suspect sabotage by someone aboard that flight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So why did Iran bulldoze the crash site?
    First off.
    1id Iran really bulldoze the crash site to cover it up? or are we going to believe a single news site that is rather questionable the way they report things? and not just on the Iranian/Iraq attack.

    Bulldozing is not covering up like Americans have a long history.

    2.Trump just recently threaten to bomb 52 Iranian important cultural sites and you want us or me to believe what this manchild president says now about Iran?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    I don't know that they did..

    I don't immediately believe Known liars without evidence..It is just as likely that the debris was moved to investigate,,possibly reconstruct the wreck.

    I find it suspicious too,,but tend to suspect sabotage by someone aboard that flight.
    There are pictures:

    https://twitter.com/gianfiorella/sta...57738269331458



    Go there and read the whole thread.

    They are destroying the evidence before any of the other people they invited to investigate can do so.
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    that's a front end loader. Looks like they're using it to move heavy stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    Go there and read the whole thread.
    There are a Lot of Tweets,,, but none from Iran..

    There are a lot of conflicting information/disinformation..

    They show footage of a Kentucky shooting range and claim it was Syria..

    and SCUD are falling all around and stuff..

    Fabricated Bull$#@!.

    I have no idea where that footage is from.. could be Israeli tractors in the Gaza.
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    Looks like they admitted to the shoot down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Video Shows the plane blow up,,,with NO SIGN of any missile.. Though possible internal explosion.

    I watched it several times the night it happened.. Plane was already going down when the side explodes just before the ground impact at speed..
    There does appear to be a disconnect between the video of the explosion & the footage of the plane descending in flames.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    There does appear to be a disconnect between the video of the explosion & the footage of the plane descending in flames.
    Just like on 9/11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olehounddog View Post
    Looks like they admitted to the shoot down.
    And that will end speculation..

    Investigated and Admitted,,

    a lot of Hyped Crap being pushed... at least it wasn't just another Crap airplane falling out of the sky.
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