Trump Goes to War Against Iran

[Brian4Liberty]

Trump Authorized Strike That Killed Iran’s Soleimani: Pentagon

President Trump authorized strike that killed Iran’s Qassem Soleimani : Pentagon

*Soleimani was developing plans to attack U.S. diplomats and service members in Iraq: Pentagon

*The strike was aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans: Pentagon

Qassem Soleimani, leader of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ foreign wing, was killed in a strike on his convoy in Iraq, an attack his Iraqi allies blamed on the U.S.

Top Iraqi paramilitary commander Abu Mahdi al-Mohandes was killed alongside Mr. Soleimani when their convoy was struck on the road leading to Baghdad International Airport.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/leader-...ed-11578015855

https://www.twitter.com/ABC/status/1212929332181528577

https://www.twitter.com/RonPaul/stat...71458135236608

[Swordsmyth]

Trump Authorized Strike That Killed Iran’s Soleimani: Pentagon

Link?

[Brian4Liberty]

Link?

Pentagon is supposed to be the source.

[Zippyjuan]

https://apnews.com/5597ff0f046a67805cc233d5933a53ed

The strike also killed Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, deputy commander of Iran-backed militias in Iraq known as the Popular Mobilization Forces, or PMF, Iraqi officials said. The PMF media arm said the two were killed in an American airstrike that targeted their vehicle on the road to the airport.

Citing a Revolutionary Guard statement, Iranian state television said Soleimani was “martyred” in an attack by U.S. helicopters near the airport, without elaborating.

U.S. President Donald Trump, who was vacationing on his estate in Palm Beach, Florida, but sent out a tweet of an American flag.

Their deaths are a potential turning point in the Middle East and if the U.S. carried them out, it represents a drastic change for American policy toward Iran after months of tensions.

Tehran shot down a U.S. military surveillance drone and seized oil tankers. Meanwhile, the U.S. blames Iran for a series of attacks targeting tankers, as well as a September assault on Saudi Arabia’s oil industry that temporarily halved its production.

The tensions take root in Trump’s decision in May 2018 to withdraw the U.S. from Iran’s nuclear deal with world powers, struck under his predecessor.

A senior Iraqi politician and a high-level security official confirmed to The Associated Press that Soleimani and al-Muhandis were among those killed in the attack shortly after midnight. Two militia leaders loyal to Iran also confirmed the deaths, including an official with the Kataeb Hezbollah faction, which was involved in the New Year’s Eve attack by Iran-backed militias on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.

The security official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said al-Muhandis had arrived to the airport in a convoy along with others to receive Soleimani, whose plane had arrived from either Lebanon or Syria. The airstrike took place near the cargo area after he left the plane to be greeted by al-Muhandis and others.

Two officials from the Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces said Suleimani’s body was torn to pieces in the attack while they did not find the body of al-Muhandis. Asenior politician said Soleimani’s body was identified by the ring he wore.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject and because they were not authorized to give official statements.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...paramilitaries

[Brian4Liberty]

https://www.twitter.com/realDonaldTr...4762827046918/

[AngryCanadian]

https://www.twitter.com/realDonaldTr...4762827046918/

What a man child Trump is and that tweet just further proves his clueless on foreign affairs.

[susano]

What a man child Trump is and that tweet just further proves his clueless on foreign affairs.

I don't think he has a freaking clue who is who and who is doing what. He talks about going after ISIS and then attacks those actually killing ISIS. His head is up Israeli and Saudi ass, both of whom have aided and abetted Al Nusra and ISIS in Syria.


So, how does WWIII shape up as to whose on what side?

US
UK
France
Israel
Gulf States
Jordan


Syria
Lebanon
Iraq
Iran
Russia?
Turkey?

[showpan]

I don't think he has a freaking clue who is who and who is doing what. He talks about going after ISIS and then attacks those actually killing ISIS. His head is up Israeli and Saudi ass, both of whom have aided and abetted Al Nusra and ISIS in Syria.


So, how does WWIII shape up as to whose on what side?

US
UK
France
Israel
Gulf States
Jordan


Syria
Lebanon
Iraq
Iran
Russia?
Turkey?

Definitely Russia even if it's indirectly along with China. That is what the neocons really want, a proxy war with China. I am betting the blowback from all of this will be supplied by China or possibly Pakistan who is on their side also. I wouldn't be surprised if a very big boom goes off somewhere soon with no one to blame but Trump. Martyr's are a very bad thing to create. The neocons played Trump quite well this time.

[Brian4Liberty]

Ironically, this is impeachable, but the neoconservative Democrat leadership will praise him on this.

[teenlibert_1776]

yeah ik

[unknown]

Ironically, this is impeachable, but the neoconservative Democrat leadership will praise him on this.

Facts.

[Brian4Liberty]

Ironically, this is impeachable, but the neoconservative Democrat leadership will praise him on this.

So are you part and parcel of the propaganda machine, or has cognitive dissonance simply consumed your entire skull?

I will stand by my assessment. It was an act of war, it was unconstitutional, it set a new precedent in assassinating foreign leaders, and yes, it is actually impeachable.

[Ender]

I will stand by my assessment. It was an act of war, it was unconstitutional, it set a new precedent in assassinating foreign leaders, and yes, it is actually impeachable.

Agree- this is definitely impeachable.

[PAF]

Agree- this is definitely impeachable.

I third that.

[Brian4Liberty]

Ironically, this is impeachable, but the neoconservative Democrat leadership will praise him on this.

Media celebrating Biden attack on supposed Iranians in Syria. Nothing new.

[Swordsmyth]

The Pentagon has confirmed that United States forces killed Iranian Gen. Qassim Soleimani “at the direction of the president.”
It said in a statement that “General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region.”
The statement continued: "This strike was aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans. The United States will continue to take all necessary action to protect our people and our interests wherever they are around the world.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-trumps-orders

No link to the statement so far.

[Swordsmyth]

The Pentagon has confirmed that United States forces killed Iranian Gen. Qassim Soleimani “at the direction of the president.”
It said in a statement that “General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region.”
The statement continued: "This strike was aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans. The United States will continue to take all necessary action to protect our people and our interests wherever they are around the world.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-trumps-orders

No link to the statement so far.

In full, the statement said: "At the direction of the President, the U.S. military has taken decisive defensive action to protect U.S. personnel abroad by killing Qasem Soleimani, the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps-Quds Force, a U.S.-designated Foreign Terrorist Organization.
"General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region. General Soleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more. He had orchestrated attacks on coalition bases in Iraq over the last several months - including the attack on December 27th - culminating in the death and wounding of additional American and Iraqi personnel. General Soleimani also approved the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad that took place this week.
"This strike was aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans. The United States will continue to take all necessary action to protect our people and our interests wherever they are around the world."




Still no link.

[Swordsmyth]

I still wouldn't call this "war".

[Zippyjuan]

I still wouldn't call this "war".

Harder for you to say Trump is trying to avoid wars.

U.S. officials have suggested they were prepared to engage in further retaliatory attacks in Iraq.

“The game has changed,” Defense Secretary Mark Esper said Thursday, telling reporters that violent acts by Iran-backed Shiite militias in Iraq — including the rocket attack on Dec. 27 that killed one American — will be met with U.S. military force.

https://apnews.com/5597ff0f046a67805cc233d5933a53ed

[Swordsmyth]

Harder for you to say Trump is trying to avoid wars.

Let me know when he bombs Iran, or sends in troops.

[Zippyjuan]

Let me know when he bombs Iran, or sends in troops.

He sent 750 more to Iraq this week. He bombed Syria last week.

[Swordsmyth]

He sent 750 more to Iraq this week. He bombed Syria last week.

Iraq is not a warzone and our embassy was just attacked.

Our intervention in Syria started before he was elected and he is getting us out in phases.

He's not going to start a war with Iran.

All of his moves including this one are designed to be something other than a war with Iran.

[pcosmar]

Let me know when he bombs Iran, or sends in troops.

Everyone will know,,The collapse of economies worldwide will insure that.

[AngryCanadian]

Everyone will know,,The collapse of economies worldwide will insure that.

You know if anything that Iran has the power of and that its the OIL.
I don't want to speculate to much here but i am sure you know what i mean when i said OIL, and Markets when it comes to the oil markets. Iran is the world largest next to Saudi Arabia.

[Brian4Liberty]

I still wouldn't call this "war".

A little hyperbole never hurts, especially in the face of an entire FakeNews establishment that will spin this as nothing.

I wonder what it would be called if the Iranian government killed Pompeo in Iraq, and proudly took credit?

[Todd]

A little hyperbole never hurts, especially in the face of an entire FakeNews establishment that will spin this as nothing.

I wonder what it would be called if the Iranian government killed Pompeo in Iraq, and proudly took credit?

Swordshill would be calling for all the American troops (except himself) to be sent to a "War zone" to defend our honor.

[Swordsmyth]

Swordshill would be calling for all the American troops (except himself) to be sent to a "War zone" to defend our honor.

That's a nice little bit of slander accompanying an insult and it is completely unsupported by my posting record.
@JoshLowry, is this post by Todd as bad as SimmerDown's sarcasm?

[susano]

That's a nice little bit of slander accompanying an insult and it is completely unsupported by my posting record.
@JoshLowry, is this post by Todd as bad as SimmerDown's sarcasm?

Agreed. It's reductio ad absurdum, much like this nutcase accusing everybody of supporting ISIS.

[KEEF]

A little hyperbole never hurts, especially in the face of an entire FakeNews establishment that will spin this as nothing.

I wonder what it would be called if the Iranian government killed Pompeo in Iraq, and proudly took credit?

I know, I guess according to SS’s definition of war, we have been all set then for the past nearly 20 years in the Middle East, and all those US troops and Middle East civilians are all good since we never technically declared war.

[TheCount]

I still wouldn't call this "war".

He intentionally killed a high-ranking military officer of another country.

Soleimani was a 2-star general.