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    Who here thinks bernie will beat

    Trump in the next presidential election ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Trump in the next presidential election ?
    I don't think Bernie will get the nomination. If he gets it he will most certainly lose.
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I don't think Bernie will get the nomination. If he gets it he will most certainly lose.
    So you are leaning towards Biden or Warren ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    So you are leaning towards Biden or Warren ?
    Warren is DOA. Biden is walking DOA. If Mitch McConnell plays his cards right, and I suspect he will, Biden's political career will not outlast Trump's impeachment trial. Bootyjudge is the sleeper agent. He leads in as many polls as does Sanders (maybe even more) and he doesn't have the "straight up socialist" card that is anathema to big time Dem donors.

    See: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ination_polls/

    Pete is poised to get a big boost out of Iowa. And being gay he scores high on the leftist identity politics scorecard. He'll have trouble with black voters though.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Warren is DOA. Biden is walking DOA. If Mitch McConnell plays his cards right, and I suspect he will, Biden's political career will not outlast Trump's impeachment trial. Bootyjudge is the sleeper agent. He leads in as many polls as does Sanders (maybe even more) and he doesn't have the "straight up socialist" card that is anathema to big time Dem donors.

    See: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ination_polls/

    Pete is poised to get a big boost out of Iowa. And being gay he scores high on the leftist identity politics scorecard. He'll have trouble with black voters though.
    I think he would not pull as many black or hispanic voters as another Dem . You are right though he is a sleeper agent . I think the CIA got tired of playing and just got own candidate .
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Bernie Sanders can't win the election. It would be a blessing to the Trump campaign if he got the nomination.
    I think he wins NH and he might in iowa if held now. After those states I think bootyjudge is not getting big votes.
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    After what happened in the UK recently, I would hope Bernie will suffer the same fate.
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    Biden has already been picked.

    He is just so dumb... he will be getting crushed in every single Trump/Biden debate.




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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I think he wins NH and he might in iowa if held now. After those states I think bootyjudge is not getting big votes.
    I do not think Bernie will win, NH. I think Pete Buttigieg will. He is definitely a sleeper and being a homosexual will prop him up better in a state has a lot of people that support same sex unions.

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    Bernie will not be allowed to get the Demoncrat nomination and would lose to Trump if he did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    I do not think Bernie will win, NH. I think Pete Buttigieg will. He is definitely a sleeper and being a homosexual will prop him up better in a state has a lot of people that support same sex unions.

    It will be Alfred E. Neuman and Donald J. Trump.
    Tucker Carlson did a great monologue on St. Pete.



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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I think he would not pull as many black or hispanic voters as another Dem . You are right though he is a sleeper agent . I think the CIA got tired of playing and just got own candidate .
    That happened in 2016. His name was Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Biden has already been picked.
    Yup. Some poster in another thread said it is absurd calling Biden the frontrunner (more absurd than calling Jeb! the frontrunner), yet Biden has literally always been in first place:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ry-d/national/
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    Most of the Democrats don't have any definitive narrative. Their schtick is orange man bad, but that won't sell tickets. Imagine a movie trailer that only lists the names of the actors, says nothing about them, and the only reference to any plot is occasionally cutting to a moustache twirling man with the narrator saying "and there's a villain!"

    Trump has a grand leitmotif about organized enemies: Chinese tariffs, Mexican immigration, ISIS, the deep state. Trump has a more compelling movie.

    Edit: Sanders does include the old "it's for the poor people" thing which I guess is a slightly better story than Hillary/Biden. And Yang has the whole robot apocalypse thing. Also, Gabbard avoids dropping the BOMB (Because Orange Man Bad), but "I love my country" is not a story.

    Are there other candidates?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rebel Poet View Post
    Yup. Some poster in another thread said it is absurd calling Biden the frontrunner (more absurd than calling Jeb! the frontrunner), yet Biden has literally always been in first place:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ry-d/national/
    Just but, a "fluke"...... hahaaa.... (in a most congruent manner?)
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    I do.

    Or at least I think the Bernie/Buttplug ticket will give Trump a run for his money.

    Freedom is not popular, and the fact that a for real, old timey, USSR loving, "government should control the means of production", communist like Sanders to be on top is a perfect indicator of that fact.

    That ticket would easily win CA-WA-OR-NM-IL-NY-NJ-MD-DC-MN-ME-VT-CT-MA-HI-DE-RI

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    Peter Buttigieg wants to end incarceration for possession of any drug, including meth or cocaine
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    Bootyjudge is even talking smack about Jesus now , no way he wins even though most dems are Godless .
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    I do not think Bernie will beat Trump.
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    Bernies chances of beating Trump were definitely a lot better back in 2016.
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    I think right now Trump still wins .
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    Does Bernie move up to catch trump if trump escalates middle east wars ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Does Bernie move up to catch trump if trump escalates middle east wars ?
    It's hard to say but I don't believe Trump will.
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    I think Bernie has a non-trivial chance of winning both the nomination and the election, say 20% and 49%, resp.

    As for the general, Bernie would actually do fairly well against Trump in debates IMO; he's doesn't seem like he'd get flustered.
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    Will the people of RPF's be complacent and let Bernie win ?
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    1948 + 1960 + 1968 + 2000 + 2012 + 2016 if summed up properly suggests Bernie S has high odds
    of getting into the fall election if he manages to pull off a top 3 or higher win in Iowa in roughly 3 weeks.
    i'm pegging things at a 50/50 split for this November. Either its a Democrat or a Republican, Go figure.

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