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    UK ELECTION: Polls close in 15 minutes!

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    In the final week, Corbyn doubled down on hardcore socialist policies, hoping for some sort of solidification of support. That has caused them to lose bigly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    In the final week, Corbyn doubled down on hardcore socialist policies, hoping for some sort of solidification of support. That has caused them to lose bigly.
    Yes. Marxism has been utterly rejected. Even in his strongholds they're returning slim majorities. This is the worst performance of the Labour Party since 1935. Hope you can join me in the UK election thread in World News and also tune into Sky. Lots of seats to be declared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    In the final week, Corbyn doubled down on hardcore socialist policies, hoping for some sort of solidification of support. That has caused them to lose bigly.
    Johnson supports socialist programs too- he just didn't go as far as to call for nationalization of utilities. He proposed all kinds of more spending on social welfare programs to try to buy votes. The parties were trying to out-bid each other. Even suggested three quarters of a $billion to spend on kids soccer programs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Johnson supports socialist programs too- he just didn't go as far as to call for nationalization of utilities. He proposed all kinds of more spending on social welfare programs to try to buy votes. The parties were trying to out-bid each other. Even suggested three quarters of a $billion to spend on kids soccer programs.
    Ingsoc gonna Ingsoc.

    It will take generations or a major trauma to change.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Ingsoc gonna Ingsoc.

    It will take generations or a major trauma to change.
    Just look at all the cuts suggested in the party Manifesto: https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-boris-johnson

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-boris-johnson

    Health
    Increase spending on the NHS by £34bn a year by the end of the parliament (as already announced).
    Build and fund 40 new hospitals over the next 10 years.
    Enshrine the long-term funding plan for the NHS in law.
    Deliver 50,000 more nurses, providing them with a maintenance grant of £5,000-£8,000 a year (effectively bringing back the nursing bursary that was scrapped two years ago)
    Create 50m more GP appointments each year, by recruiting and training 6,000 more general practitioners and 6,000 more primary care doctors.
    Allocate £1bn extra for social care in every year of the next parliament; and “build a cross party consensus” on how it should be funded in the long term – while guaranteeing that no one should have to sell their home to pay for care.
    Make finding a cure for dementia a priority, doubling funding for research.
    Abolish hospital car park charges for blue badge holders and the gravely ill.
    Clamp down on “health tourism” and increase the surcharge foreign users pay for the NHS.
    Environment
    Homes will be made more energy efficient, with £9.2bn to be spent on insulation and similar measures for schools and hospitals.
    Offshore wind is to reach 40GW of capacity by 2030, £800m for carbon capture and storage, and £500m to help energy-intensive industries reduce carbon.
    Seas will be protected with a £500m Blue Planet Fund, producers of plastic waste will have to take responsibility for its disposal, and the export of plastic waste to developing countries will be banned.
    Education and early years

    Increase spending on schools to level up per pupil funding to £5,000, as already announced.
    Back school heads and teachers on discipline – including by supporting the use of exclusions.
    Expand “alternative provision” schools for children who have been excluded.
    Offer an “arts premium” to secondary schools to “fund enriching activities”.
    Raise teachers’ starting salaries to £30,000.
    Review the care system to make sure children get the support they need.
    Establish a £1bn fund to help create more high quality, affordable childcare, including before and after school and during the holidays.
    Crime and justice

    Recruit 20,000 new police officers.
    Empower police to target known knife carriers, making it easier for them to stop and search those convicted of knife crime.
    Introduce tougher sentencing for the worst offenders and end automatic halfway release for serious crimes.
    Prevent more foreign national offenders entering the country.
    Establish a royal commission on the criminal justice process.
    Expand electronic tagging and toughen up community sentences – for example, by making curfews tighter.
    Create a new national cybercrime force and a new national crime laboratory.
    Add 10,000 more prison places.
    Review the parole system and allow victims to attend parole hearings.
    Spend £500m on youth services in an effort to to reduce offending.
    Expand the role of local police and crime commissioners and make them more accountable.
    Pass a new victims law that guarantees their rights and the support they should receive.
    Tackle unauthorised Traveller camps by giving the police new powers to arrest and seize property and vehicles of trespassers
    Foreign policy and defence

    Continue to exceed the Nato target of 2% of GDP on defence and increase the defence budget by at least 0.5% above inflation throughout the parliament.
    Maintain the commitment to spend 0.7% of GDP on overseas aid.
    Maintain the Trident nuclear deterrent.
    Introduce new legislation to tackle vexatious legal claims against veterans.
    Business and employment

    Cancel planned corporation tax cuts, leaving the 19% rate in place and saving £6.3bn a year by 2023-24.
    Carry out a fundamental review of the rates system to cut the burden on businesses.
    Increase the employment allowance for small firms – a discount on national insurance payments.
    Increase the research and development tax credit rate to 13%.
    Crack down on tax evasion and avoidance, including by passing a new law doubling the prison term to 14 years for individuals convicted of the worst forms of tax fraud.
    Implement the digital services tax, which is aimed at forcing multinationals to pay more tax in the UK.
    Create a new arms length agency for “high-risk, high-payoff research” that will receive some of the planned increase in science spending.
    Transport and Energy
    End rail franchising and create a simpler, more effective system.
    Invest £29bn in strategic roads.
    Build a “northern powerhouse” rail line between Leeds and Manchester.
    Invest in the Midlands rail hub, strengthening links including between Birmingham, Leicester and Nottingham.
    Extend contactless ticketing to 200 more stations in the south-east.
    Consult on whether to go ahead with HS2 rail project, which as the manifesto points out will now cost “at least £81bn”.
    Restore many of the rail lines closed down during the Beeching cuts, reconnecting small towns.
    Launch “the biggest ever pothole filling programme”.
    Create a new £350m cyling infrastructure fund to support commuter cycling routes.
    Require the owners of Heathrow to show it can meet air quality and noise requirements for the third runway to go ahead, and that the project will get no new public funding.
    Bring full-fibre broadband to every home and business by 2025, including setting aside £5bn to connect premises where it wouldn’t be commercially viable.
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    do we have a Brexit?
    Where is John Galt?


    When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies? - Miguel de Cervantes, (Don Quixote)

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-election.html

    The greatest democracy in the world': Boris Johnson tweets thanks after sensational exit poll shows Tories winning historic Brexit election with stonking majority of EIGHTY SIX and Labour with worst result since 1935 as 'red wall' crumbles
    Exit poll has given the first indication of results after ballot boxes closed in biggest election for a generation
    The prediction shows voters handing the Tories a whopping 368 seats with Labour collapsing to just 191
    The result would mean a huge 86 Commons majority and be the worst Labour showing in modern history
    Early results in Labour strongholds in the North East have borne out early signs of a swing to Conservatives
    Tories pulled off jaw-dropping results in constituencies like Workington, Blythe Valley and Bishop Auckland
    There were small crumbs of comfort for Remainers as tactical voting defeated the Conservatives in Putney
    Results are due to come pouring in from around 3am, with big Labour names at risk of being ousted in the rout
    By James Tapsfield, Political Editor For Mailonline and Jack Maidment, Deputy Political Editor
    Published: 17:00 EST, 12 December 2019 | Updated: 22:17 EST, 12 December 2019

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    Where is John Galt?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    do we have a Brexit?
    If BJ doesn't pull a backstab.

    We might also see Scotland go Catalan and Ireland reunite or ignite.


    UK General Election Thread

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Sedgefield: Con GAIN

    CON: 47.2% (+8.4)
    LAB: 36.3% (-17.1)
    BREX: 8.5% (+8.5)
    LDEM: 4.7% (+2.8)
    GRN: 2.4% (+0.8)

    Swing: Lab to Con (+12.8)
    Turnout: 64.6%
    Full results: https://t.co/wVfQPUtvng #GE2019

    Tony Blair's former seat.

    — Britain Elects (@britainelects) December 13, 2019

    It's sinking in AF. Socialism rejected. That seat has been in Labour's hands since 1935.

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    Was there a single deciding factor?

    Immi-cough-gration!?
    If the stampman tells you to kiss his ass, shall he get away with it and live? Don't let your courage cool, or a few bullies scare you. We've nothing to fear but slavery. Love your liberty, and fight for it like men who know its value. Once lost it will never, never be regained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Was there a single deciding factor?

    Immi-cough-gration!?
    Get Brexit done. Rejection of Marxist policies Corbyn put forward like nationalizing the utility companies.

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    Congrats to Boris on his win.
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    Calvin Coolidge



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