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    Trump Administration Considers 14,000 More Troops for Mideast

    WASHINGTON—The Trump administration is considering a significant expansion of the U.S. military footprint in the Middle East, including dozens more ships, other military hardware and as many as 14,000 additional troops to counter Iran, U.S. officials said.

    The deployment could double the number of U.S. military personnel who have been sent to the region since the start of a troop buildup in May. President Trump is expected to make a decision on the new deployments as soon as this month, those officials said.

    Mr. Trump, facing an election next year, has long sought to exit foreign entanglements and avoid new conflicts. But on Iran—and partly at the behest of Israel—he is convinced of the need to counter the threat his aides say Tehran poses, the officials said. He also could approve a smaller U.S. deployment, the officials said.

    ...

    The additional forces would join the roughly 14,000 U.S. service members sent to the region since May, when U.S. intelligence analysts identified a threat from Iran and the U.S. Central Command commander, Marine Gen. Frank McKenzie, requested additional ships, missile-defense platforms and troops.


    Overall, there are between 60,000 and 80,000 U.S. troops deployed to the Middle East and Afghanistan, depending on the number of ships in the region and the rotation of ground forces, defense officials said.


    John Rood, the Pentagon’s senior policy official, hinted on Wednesday at an expanded deployment to counter Iran. Mr. Rood said no decision has been made on additional capabilities but that the situation is expected to remain fluid. “Deterrence is dynamic, our response is going to be dynamic,” he said.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-a...st-11575494228

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    I'm going to need to be told the details before I accept the narrative about this.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
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    Nothing to see here, it's just Trumps drunken monkey strategy.
    "The Patriarch"

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    I'm sure the deepstate has lots of plans it is considering.
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    Trump Considering 14000 More Troops For Middle East


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    Trump Administration Considers 14,000 More Troops for Mideast

    Started by TheCount, Today


    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm sure the deepstate has lots of plans it is considering.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    Like I said before... withdraw some troops here and from there, only to strategically redeploy over there. Those military recruitment commercials on TV all begin with “exciting career”.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Can't be, he's bringing the troops home from interventionist warmongering.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Can't be, he's bringing the troops home from interventionist warmongering.
    So when he says he wants to end wars and bring troops home that's just talk and we can't count on it BUT when a few administration officials say they are considering plans that's as good as done and we can take it as guaranteed to happen?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So when he says he wants to end wars and bring troops home that's just talk and we can't count on it BUT when a few administration officials say they are considering plans that's as good as done and we can take it as guaranteed to happen?
    I don't know, how many troops has he brought home?
    "The Patriarch"

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    can’t be good.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    If Trump gets his way, it would create enough refugees to start up a new Little Tehran in every majority white city in the US. Thanking Trump in advance for bringing more diversity to the US
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    The Pentagon on Wednesday denied a report that the United States was weighing sending up to 14,000 more troops to the Middle East in the face of a perceived threat from Iran.The Wall Street Journal reported that the possible deployment would include "dozens" more ships and double the number of troops added to the US force in the region since the beginning of this year, citing unnamed US officials.
    The paper said President Donald Trump could make a decision on the troop boost as early as this month.
    But the Pentagon disputed the accuracy of the report.
    "To be clear, the reporting is wrong. The U.S. is not considering sending 14,000 additional troops to the Middle East," spokeswoman Alyssa Farah tweeted.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/us-mulling-14...223950953.html
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    The Pentagon on Wednesday denied a report that the United States was weighing sending up to 14,000 more troops to the Middle East in the face of a perceived threat from Iran.The Wall Street Journal reported that the possible deployment would include "dozens" more ships and double the number of troops added to the US force in the region since the beginning of this year, citing unnamed US officials.
    The paper said President Donald Trump could make a decision on the troop boost as early as this month.
    But the Pentagon disputed the accuracy of the report.
    "To be clear, the reporting is wrong. The U.S. is not considering sending 14,000 additional troops to the Middle East," spokeswoman Alyssa Farah tweeted.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/us-mulling-14...223950953.html
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm sure the deepstate has lots of plans it is considering.
    There appears to be some infighting between Deep State and Deep Zionism but MAGA is too bold to be controlled or intimidated by any special interest groups or nefarious foreign-firsters lobbies. If there were even a hint of MAGA being manipulated by any Deep outfit, Congressional Oversight leadership would have already looked into that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So when he says he wants to end wars and bring troops home that's just talk and we can't count on it BUT when a few administration officials say they are considering plans that's as good as done and we can take it as guaranteed to happen?
    Swordsmyth for the first two years of Trump's term: "Don't pay attention to what he says, pay attention to what he does."

    Swordsmyth for the last two years of Trump's term: "Don't pay attention to what he does, pay attention to what he says."
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm going to need to be told the details before I accept the narrative about this.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The Pentagon on Wednesday denied a report that the United States was weighing sending up to 14,000 more troops to the Middle East in the face of a perceived threat from Iran.The Wall Street Journal reported that the possible deployment would include "dozens" more ships and double the number of troops added to the US force in the region since the beginning of this year, citing unnamed US officials.
    The paper said President Donald Trump could make a decision on the troop boost as early as this month.
    But the Pentagon disputed the accuracy of the report.
    "To be clear, the reporting is wrong. The U.S. is not considering sending 14,000 additional troops to the Middle East," spokeswoman Alyssa Farah tweeted.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/us-mulling-14...223950953.html

    I'm not going to listen to the word of some deep state official. What can she possibly know about the inner thoughts of our Orange Lord?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm going to need to be told the details before I accept the narrative about this.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken



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    How about considering bringing 14,000 more troops home from these war torn countries? Apparently thats too much to ask.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Let's be reasonable and give at least part of the credit to community leaders like Pompeo and Prager also for their efforts to support MAGA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Swordsmyth for the first two years of Trump's term: "Don't pay attention to what he says, pay attention to what he does."

    Swordsmyth for the last two years of Trump's term: "Don't pay attention to what he does, pay attention to what he says."
    This isn't something Trump is doing.

    It isn't even happening at all.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I'm not going to listen to the word of some deep state official. What can she possibly know about the inner thoughts of our Orange Lord?
    I'm glad to hear you are ignoring the original rumor about sending more troops.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    How about considering bringing 14,000 more troops home from these war torn countries? Apparently thats too much to ask.
    Trump is working on that:

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    President Trump made an unannounced trip to Afghanistan on Thursday, his first as president, to visit troops for the Thanksgiving holiday. There, Trump said peace talks with the Taliban had resumed, speaking at a US air force base alongside Afghan president Ashraf Ghani.
    Trump landed at Bagram Airfield around 8:30 pm local time Thursday and greeted U.S. soldiers over a turkey dinner before meeting with Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani at the airfield’s Air Force headquarters.
    ��MOMENTS AGO��
    President @realDonaldTrump visits U.S. Soldiers at Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan.... pic.twitter.com/HpHd6PxEqn
    — Dan Scavino Jr.���� (@Scavino45) November 28, 2019

    Following a meeting with Ghani, Trump told reporters that the Taliban “wants to make a deal” and that US officials were "meeting with them." Trump also said that the Taliban was willing to agree to a ceasefire: "The Taliban wants to make a deal and we’re meeting with them and we’re saying it has to be a cease-fire, and they didn’t want to do a cease-fire and now they want to do a cease-fire - I believe it’ll probably work out that way."
    Trump also said that the US will continue to reduce its troop commitment to the region, from 12,000 now to about 8,600, but would like to go lower without impacting operational duties. “We can go much further than that, but we’ll have it all covered,” Trump said. [That is without a deal, they will all leave with a deal]

    Speaking to the US troops, Trump reiterated that they’re working for a peace deal in Afghanistan. “Rest assured that my administration will always be committed to annihilating terrorists wherever they appear,” he said, adding that he looked forward to the day “when we can bring each and every one of you home and safe to your family, and that day is coming and coming very soon.”

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ban-talks-have
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  25. #22
    Even if on the surface it may appear that right wing of Deep Zionism could lose major political investment if current GOPA wing leadership is ousted by Left Wing Deep State+Dems+some angry conservatives team work, is it possible this distraction could be helping Deep Neocons wars plans?

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    The whole situation is but too fluid and somewhat confusing (from cause of liberty stand point), may be we need to have a wait n see approach till fog clears.


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  26. #23
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    This isn't something Trump is doing.

    It isn't even happening at all.
    Are you saying there aren't 14,000 more service personnel in the middle east than there were a year ago?

    Or are you just withdrawing into a state of catatonic denial?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    My tax dollars paid to fund ISIS and make fake beheading videos. Are you saying we shouldn't get our monies worth??



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Are you saying there aren't 14,000 more service personnel in the middle east than there were a year ago?

    Or are you just withdrawing into a state of catatonic denial?
    In May Trump said there were no plans to send any troops to the Middle East. Since then, the 14,000 were sent. But he believes the president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    In May Trump said there were no plans to send any troops to the Middle East. Since then, the 14,000 were sent. But he believes the president.
    Are you sure? Belief doesn't seem to be a necessary component of bootlicking.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    My tax dollars paid to fund ISIS and make fake beheading videos. Are you saying we shouldn't get our monies worth??

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    How about considering bringing 14,000 more troops home from these war torn countries? Apparently thats too much to ask.
    Right, while were at it. Stop funding Israel.
    Where is John Galt?


    When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies? - Miguel de Cervantes, (Don Quixote)

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Are you saying there aren't 14,000 more service personnel in the middle east than there were a year ago?

    Or are you just withdrawing into a state of catatonic denial?
    We aren't talking about troops already sent, we are talking about the fact that there is no plan to send more.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We aren't talking about troops already sent, we are talking about the fact that there is no plan to send more.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm going to need to be told the details before I accept the narrative about this.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    LOL

    Were aren't talking about troops leaving either.
    Where is John Galt?


    When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies? - Miguel de Cervantes, (Don Quixote)

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