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    Sun: Epstein and Maxwell were Israeli assets

    Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein were spies who used underage sex to blackmail politicians, ‘ex-handler’ claims

    I know that none of this is really new material but I think it's an explosive angle on the whole story. The spin-machine is spinning like crazy -- even recruiting victims of the very trafficking ring itself! -- to make this out to be about "Jeffrey Epstein was a very sick man who was addicted to sex with underage girls and he had Maxwell out there scouting for girls to bring back for massages/sex because of the big black hole inside of him that could never be filled no matter how much sex he had."

    So, here's the "official" story:

    - Epstein somehow mysteriously became a billionaire all of a sudden
    - Was also a pedophile sex addict
    - Realized he had unlimited cash to spend on his addiction
    - So he just partied behind close doors and had Maxwell combing the globe to add more and more underage girls to his harem
    - He got caught doing it, but escaped
    - He got caught doing it again, and then committed suicide when he realized he wasn't going to escape the charges this time

    Almost nothing in this story makes sense. Even billionaires have to maintain revenue to pay their operating costs (property taxes, maintenance, travel/living expenses, enormous staff, etc.) Even if you have billions of dollars, you won't stay a billionaire for very long if you just decide to hole yourself up and start blowing all your cash on some mad pedophile sex addiction. While it's clear he had a lot of women -- some of them underage -- moving through his operation, how was he making money? The official story will sometimes effectively admit that he was pimping them out but they prefer to focus on Maxwell so they can say "she was like a Madame." That is, they want to make this out to be a story that she was a pimp with one (super-rich) customer. Epstein wasn't really a pimp, the story goes, he was a john with enough money to buy his own brothel of underage girls, basically. They need to make Epstein out to be a solitary, twisted, pedophile sex-addicted john (which the evidence so far suggests he may very well have been) to the exclusion of the idea that he was a pimp, operating a highly profitable, pedophile prostitution ring. If he's a pimp, then the public will want to know: where are all the johns who were his customers? Surely, they ought to be brought up on charges, too!

    The sad reality is that they've bit off more than they can chew. "They", in this case, being the globalists. Note that Israel is the crown jewel in the globalists' mad plan for world domination. Doubtless, they've gathered dirt on many people in positions of power and wealth all around the world. This dirt is gold because it allows public opinion to be pushed wherever the globalists want it to be. If anyone doesn't play along, they receive a frame-grab from a hidden camera showing them doing the nasty with an underage girl. This is the oldest, dirtiest and most effective form of spycraft. All of a sudden, a key decision-maker in country X who was opposing some globalist initiative mysteriously caves in and scraps all opposition. To be clear, the mud-slinging game is not as easy as it sounds from spy-novels. The politicians all have dirt on each other. So, it's not a question of the existence of dirt, it's a question of the quality of that dirt. And video footage of sex with underage girls is AAA-grade dirt. Not only will it stop any political agenda you have dead in its tracks, it will send you straight to jail... do not pass Go, do not collect $200.

    But what would happen if that entire pile of AAA-grade dirt were published straight to the Internet (Wikileaks-style)?? Why, the entire house of cards would be in jeopardy. There would be a global collapse of confidence in all the key players in the globalist agenda. So, that can't be allowed to happen and I don't think it will happen. Instead, they're going to give us a big, flashing light-show about Prince Andrew that will last until the squall of public outrage moves on to some other favorite topic, like the dimensions of Kim Kardashian's butt.



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    Interesting speculations, but I'd be looking for other explanations for Epstein's money, which is an interesting aspect of all this.

    No one makes anything like a billion from prostitution.

    I'd be thinking about drugs, money laundering, extortion, or something along those lines.

    I'd also be thinking that Epstein, who didn't strike me as a particularly clever fellow, was actually a frontman for someone else.

    The prostitution business was how he spent his money, it seems to me; how did he make it in the first place?
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    It's well known that Robert Maxwell was a spy for Mossad.

    Does that help?

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    No one makes anything like a billion from prostitution.
    Footage of the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world (if it exists) having sex with underage prostitutes would be invaluable -- it would have to be measured in countries, not dollars. If this theory is correct, Epstein's money wasn't really his own, it was just a budget that he was allocated to generate intelligence having vastly larger, political (non-economic) value. I don't consider this theory to be proven based on the available evidence but it certainly isn't contradicted by the evidence and I'm oh-so-suspicious as to why the Establishment media is so eager to have us buy this narrative about a solitary, pedophile sex-addict (a narrative that clearly isn't true).

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Interesting speculations, but I'd be looking for other explanations for Epstein's money, which is an interesting aspect of all this.

    No one makes anything like a billion from prostitution.

    I'd be thinking about drugs, money laundering, extortion, or something along those lines.

    I'd also be thinking that Epstein, who didn't strike me as a particularly clever fellow, was actually a frontman for someone else.

    The prostitution business was how he spent his money, it seems to me; how did he make it in the first place?

    Epstein blackmailed wealthy and powerful people. One blackmailed individual gave him a $20 million mansion. Epstein blackmailed thousands of powerful people.

    But yes, you are right in one respect. He was also a frontman for billionaire Les Wexner, the CIA and Mossad.
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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-money-report

    The billionaire behind the Victoria’s Secret lingerie chain has said that financier and accused child abuser Jeffrey Epstein “misappropriated” more than $46m of his personal fortune, according to a report.

    Leslie Wexner, the founder and chief executive of L Brands Inc, the parent company of Victoria’s Secret, said money went missing a decade ago, according to a letter to the Wexner Foundation, seen by the Wall Street Journal and New York Times.

    It was reportedly discovered the funds were missing after he decided to sever ties with Epstein in 2007. Wexner wrote that he began to cut ties with the financier after allegations against Epstein surfaced in 2006 involving sexual abuse of underage girls.

    Last month, Epstein pleaded not guilty in New York to new sex-trafficking charges. He faces up to 45 years in prison if convicted and is currently in detention, denied bail. Epstein, who took on money management for a number of wealthy clients, served time in prison in Florida around a decade ago after a controversial plea deal that involved avoiding federal charges.

    Wexner’s allegations focus on $46m of investments in a Wexner charitable fund controlled by Epstein. Wexner said that as he severed the relationship, he discovered Epstein had returned only a portion of the money in the fund. He declined to say if he had reported the loss to authorities.

    “We discovered that he had misappropriated vast sums of money from me and my family,” Wexner said. “This was, frankly, a tremendous shock, even though it clearly pales in comparison to the unthinkable allegations against him now.”

    Wexner hired Epstein in 1991 to manage his money, giving him vast power over his investment and tax affairs. The Journal has previously reported on how important Wexner was to Epstein’s success as a financier. Epstein reportedly made more than $200m from the deal.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/how-...bear-stearns-1

    Epstein's first job in finance was working as an options trader at Bear Stearns, according to NBC News. He'd previously been a teacher at the Dalton School, an exclusive Manhattan college preparatory school.

    Epstein reached the level of limited partner at Bear Stearns before he left the company to launch his own firm in 1981, Vanity Fair reported.

    Epstein's firm was originally called J. Epstein & Co. before being renamed Financial Trust Co.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    It's well known that Robert Maxwell was a spy for Mossad.

    Does that help?
    And cropping Ghislaine out of photos seems to be a full time position in the MSM these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    And cropping Ghislaine out of photos seems to be a full time position in the MSM these days.
    I don't watch MSM news, so I have no idea what the "news stories" of the day are. Apparently, they're talking about Epstein still.

    I do know that a lot of people love memes with "Epstein Didn't Kill Himself" in them. So that's good.

    Robert Maxwell is extremely rich and famous. Or was before he mysteriously died quite a few years back. Big media titan type. More famous than Epstein or his daughter. And well known as a Mossad spy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert089 View Post
    If he was an Israeli asset then he is a hero to both Israel and America.
    In the past, some had tried to paint Linda Tripp and Monica and even notorious spy Jonathon Pollard as 'heroes'... though lately the first two are being preseented as victims.


    According to Halper, Israel attempted to use tapes of former US President Bill Clinton’s steamy sex chats with intern Monica Lewinsky to leverage the release of Jonathan Pollard.


    Various theories going around but there is no proof based on MSM reports (from more reliable sources like CNN, NYT) that these are connected.

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    There are al kinds of new/old theories are surfacing since Drudge put up such reports. Let's not jump to conclusions based on theories of fringe sites and wait till details have been vetted by more reliable MSM outlets like NYT, CNN.


    https://twitter.com/fitzinfo/status/1164610124696162307

    https://twitter.com/lincolnsbible/st...80136295161862



    BOOK: Epstein Was Blackmailing Political Figures...





    Russia, Israel and Saudi Arabia: Jeffrey Epstein ‘Found a Niche — Blackmailing American and Other Political Figures’ For Foreign Powers, According to His Ex-Spy Handler

    Dylan Howard
    Dec 5
    Shameless pedophile Jeffrey Epstein inherited his espionage business from ex-girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father British media magnate Robert Maxwell, was a super spy for Israel’s Mossad. Here, in another excerpt from the newly released book “Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales,” former Israeli spy Ari Ben-Menashe tells how Epstein ran a complex intelligence operation.

    Ari Ben-Menashe, a former Israeli spy and alleged “handler” of Robert Maxwell said of Epstein: “Maxwell introduced him to us, and he wanted us to accept him as part of our group.
    Ben-Menashe claimed that Epstein and Ghislaine were already dating in the late 1980s, and that Maxwell Senior grew fond of the young upstart.
    medium.com/@dylanhoward/russia-israel-and-saudi-arabia-jeffrey-epstein-found-a-niche-blackmailing-american-and-other-d3499f4f60dd



    In this dated photograph, Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein associate and daughter of Israeli spy Robert Maxwell, seated in the middle

    Donald Trump, Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell in new un-seen pictures after President claims he ‘doesn’t know’ Duke

    5 Dec 2019
    DONALD Trump and Prince Andrew are pictured posing with Ghislaine Maxwell in photos taken at Heidi Klum's hookers and pimps-themed Halloween party in 2000.

    The president this week claimed not to know the prince, currently under scrutiny over his friendship with Maxwell and late paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, despite having been seen with him many times over a period of years.
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews...-a-lot-of-fun/



    Despite speculations and theories, there is no proof based on reliable MSM reporting that recent US troops increase to mideast and pressure against Iran was based on any blackmail or intimidation by foreign spies or lobbies.


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    reliable MSM outlets
    I'd call that an oxy-moron...

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    Would it surprise anyone if this were true?

    Use and fund a pedophile to invite other pedos into his world only to document their behavior and then blackmail them.

    From attacking us, to spying on us to coercing our elected officials, Israel is an enemy of the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Would it surprise anyone if this were true?

    Use and fund a pedophile to invite other pedos into his world only to document their behavior and then blackmail them.

    From attacking us, to spying on us to coercing our elected officials, Israel is an enemy of the United States.
    We can dive in there with varying definitions of pedo. These were underage teens, and I would guess that some of these folks that were blackmailed by Epstein, Maxwell and the Mossad started by having sex with barely legal teens. And Epstein, Maxwell and the Mossad started giving them younger.

    There a whole other level of pedo, much worse, that we're not looking at here with Epstein. It's all much worse, this is just part of Rothschilds old spy operation that made him big $ after Waterloo, which 140 or so years later turned into that Mossad, who worked closely with Maxwell's dad Robert Maxwell, media billionaire, turned media bankrupt, turned mysteriously dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    There are al kinds of new/old theories are surfacing since Drudge put up such reports. Let's not jump to conclusions based on theories of fringe sites and wait till details have been vetted by more reliable MSM outlets like NYT, CNN.


    https://twitter.com/fitzinfo/status/1164610124696162307

    https://twitter.com/lincolnsbible/st...80136295161862



    BOOK: Epstein Was Blackmailing Political Figures...






    medium.com/@dylanhoward/russia-israel-and-saudi-arabia-jeffrey-epstein-found-a-niche-blackmailing-american-and-other-d3499f4f60dd



    In this dated photograph, Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein associate and daughter of Israeli spy Robert Maxwell, seated in the middle


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews...-a-lot-of-fun/



    Despite speculations and theories, there is no proof based on reliable MSM reporting that recent US troops increase to mideast and pressure against Iran was based on any blackmail or intimidation by foreign spies or lobbies.


    Un-Related

    Top-neocon reverses course, says Trump's ‘most pro-Israel president ever’

    Stormy Daniels Demonstrates How She Spanked Donald Trump

    Publisher of the ‘Atlanta Jewish Times’ suggests Mossad should assassinate Obama over US Iran policy
    Adam Horowitz on January 20, 2012




    Trump may send 14,000 troops to Middle East amid Iran threat
    nypost 2019/12/05
    Dec 5, 2019 - The Trump administration is weighing significantly increasing the US military presence in the Middle East to counter Iran




    Generally this ronpaulforums.com is not the place to really let it all fly. You do that when you're a little more anon. Good article though. Who owns and controls those media outlets? Whoever it is who is saying that those media outlets are going to be taking the lead to bring out the truth about all this has to be making a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    It's well known that Robert Maxwell was a spy for Mossad.

    Does that help?
    Robert Maxwell received a state funeral in Israel.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...d-9185528.html

    "At his graveside on the Mount of Olives stood Herzog, Yitzhak Shamir, Ariel Sharon and Shimon Peres, to name a few of the country's most powerful figures. For some, the turnout and Herzog's words testified that Maxwell had been a faithful servant to Israel in the darker recesses of power and arms."
    George Galloway called Maxwell "one of the worst criminals of the century."


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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    In the past, some had tried to paint Linda Tripp and Monica and even notorious spy Jonathon Pollard as 'heroes'... though lately the first two are being preseented as victims.






    Various theories going around but there is no proof based on MSM reports (from more reliable sources like CNN, NYT) that these are connected.

    Israel Reportedly Planted Mysterious Spy Devices Near White House

    Sun: Epstein and Maxwell were Israeli assets








    Coulter turns on MAGA's Labor Sec Acosta in Epstein case; cites ‘Blackmail Material’

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