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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Democrat policies are what attracted them in the first place. You gaslight people with your both parties are the same bull$#@! and turn around and agree that the globalists in both parties are the same. If you take globalists out of the equation though both parties are not the same. Both partues are the same is the globalists talking point. Even though its categorically wrong with non globalists on important issues like the second amendment and foreign policy and open borders. Both parties are the same is divide and conquer globalist talking point thats going to get us into more globalist regime change wars.
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  3. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Democrat policies are what attracted them in the first place. You gaslight people with your both parties are the same bull$#@! and turn around and agree that the globalists in both parties are the same. If you take globalists out of the equation though both parties are not the same. Both partues are the same is the globalists talking point. Even though its categorically wrong with non globalists on important issues like the second amendment and foreign policy and open borders. Both parties are the same is divide and conquer globalist talking point thats going to get us into more globalist regime change wars.
    Tell Ron Paul that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    My tax dollars paid to fund ISIS and make fake beheading videos. Are you saying we shouldn't get our monies worth??

  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Tell Ron Paul that.
    Ron Paul was a Republican for a long time. Not a globalist. Was he the same as the democrats?? Rand Paul is a Republican is he the same as the democrats?? I don't blame Ron Paul for saying both parties are the same when he ran 3rd party or when he uses it in context of selling his brand of constitutional government because he always uses the globalists talking points against them because people in both parties are used to them. Realistically though politician Ron Paul is different than his liberty education brand he sells to plant the seeds of liberty first government. You would know this if you honestly paid attention. There are hundreds of interviews of Ron Paul and Rand Paul where they define being a conservative Republican not a globalist Republican and get asked why they don't run 3rd party. Ron Paul"s political messaging for his political liberty minded government uses a lot of globalist talking points because he uses them against the globalists. Realistically though with democrats categorically embracing globalism in post 2012 politics and Trump ran for president and is taking on the liberal establishment in both parties an anti globalist, a non globalist Republican party not only has to emerge from the current one but messaging should change as well unless you want to help the globalists because that is their siren to lure people into giving up the battle for the soul of the country that is happening now as a result of the snowball of the political career and campaigns of Ron Paul.

  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Globalists are in both parties.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Ron Paul was a Republican for a long time. Not a globalist. Was he the same as the democrats?? Rand Paul is a Republican is he the same as the democrats?? I
    I wish you'd make up your mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Realistically though with democrats categorically embracing globalism in post 2012 politics and Trump ran for president and is taking on the liberal establishment in both parties an anti globalist, a non globalist Republican party not only has to emerge from the current one but messaging should change as well unless you want to help the globalists because that is their siren to lure people into giving up the battle for the soul of the country that is happening now as a result of the snowball of the political career and campaigns of Ron Paul.
    Mostly I wish you'd make up your mind to learn to use punctuation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    My tax dollars paid to fund ISIS and make fake beheading videos. Are you saying we shouldn't get our monies worth??

  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Ron Paul was a Republican for a long time. Not a globalist. Was he the same as the democrats?? Rand Paul is a Republican is he the same as the democrats?? I don't blame Ron Paul for saying both parties are the same when he ran 3rd party or when he uses it in context of selling his brand of constitutional government because he always uses the globalists talking points against them because people in both parties are used to them. Realistically though politician Ron Paul is different than his liberty education brand he sells to plant the seeds of liberty first government. You would know this if you honestly paid attention. There are hundreds of interviews of Ron Paul and Rand Paul where they define being a conservative Republican not a globalist Republican and get asked why they don't run 3rd party. Ron Paul"s political messaging for his political liberty minded government uses a lot of globalist talking points because he uses them against the globalists. Realistically though with democrats categorically embracing globalism in post 2012 politics and Trump ran for president and is taking on the liberal establishment in both parties an anti globalist, a non globalist Republican party not only has to emerge from the current one but messaging should change as well unless you want to help the globalists because that is their siren to lure people into giving up the battle for the soul of the country that is happening now as a result of the snowball of the political career and campaigns of Ron Paul.
    If you really listen to Ron Paul, he notes that there is no difference between the parties, aside from a talking point bone here and there. If you really listen to Ron Paul, you would know that he never cared for politics, but used the libertarian and republican platforms to talk about the truth, and has also said that running as a democrat in those demographics would likewise be an avenue to help spread the truth.

    Globalism opposes individuality and freedom, not democrat or republican philosophy which are almost one and the same.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    If you really listen to Ron Paul, he notes that there is no difference between the parties, aside from a talking point bone here and there. If you really listen to Ron Paul, you would know that he never cared for politics, but used the libertarian and republican platforms to talk about the truth, and has also said that running as a democrat in those demographics would likewise be an avenue to help spread the truth.

    Globalism opposes individuality and freedom, not democrat or republican philosophy which are almost one and the same.
    Pearls of wisdom. They're appreciated by everyone but the swine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    My tax dollars paid to fund ISIS and make fake beheading videos. Are you saying we shouldn't get our monies worth??

  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    If you really listen to Ron Paul, he notes that there is no difference between the parties, aside from a talking point bone here and there. If you really listen to Ron Paul, you would know that he never cared for politics, but used the libertarian and republican platforms to talk about the truth, and has also said that running as a democrat in those demographics would likewise be an avenue to help spread the truth.

    Globalism opposes individuality and freedom, not democrat or republican philosophy which are almost one and the same.
    I have watched hundreds of his interviews and you are categorically wrong about Ron Paul when he defends being Republican and you are wrong about the result of globalism. Globalism is about regime change wars, public policy that puts corporate interests ahead the common man, permanant ethnic and political ideology demographic changes on the size and scope of government including as op mentions permanantly creating a liberal democrat majority. The Clinton Global initiative's goal is to force a 3rd world standard of living on all Americans and eugenics to get rid of what they see as undesirable. The globalist regime is in multiple countries and allied with the communist party of China.

  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I have watched hundreds of his interviews and you are categorically wrong about Ron Paul...
    No, actually he's spot on the money about Ron Paul. You can't come up with anything Ron Paul said or wrote that contradicts PAF's statement.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    My tax dollars paid to fund ISIS and make fake beheading videos. Are you saying we shouldn't get our monies worth??



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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I wish you'd make up your mind.



    Mostly I wish you'd make up your mind to learn to use punctuation.
    I wish you would refute my argument instead of take comments out of context and try to make them imply something and criticizing my punctuation but you don't really want to try to debate political strategy or policy it seems like you just want to sow discord.

  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    No, actually he's spot on the money about Ron Paul. You can't come up with anything Ron Paul said or wrote that contradicts PAF's statement.
    I can come up with dozens of Ron Paul interviews especially ones where he is asked why he is running for the Republican party or Republican nomination if you want we can make a whole thread about his political strategy. He did a lot of goof things for his district as a Republican.

  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    If you really listen to Ron Paul, he notes that there is no difference between the parties, aside from a talking point bone here and there. If you really listen to Ron Paul, you would know that he never cared for politics, but used the libertarian and republican platforms to talk about the truth, and has also said that running as a democrat in those demographics would likewise be an avenue to help spread the truth.

    Globalism opposes individuality and freedom, not democrat or republican philosophy which are almost one and the same.

    "You must spread some Reputation around..."

    Actually Ron reminds us fairly regularly that there is no fundamental difference between the two parties. It's a shame that some are so blinded by partisan zealotry that they don't even notice it.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I wish you would refute my argument instead of take comments out of context and try to make them imply something and criticizing my punctuation but you don't really want to try to debate political strategy or policy it seems like you just want to sow discord.
    I did refute you. You ignored that. Remarks about your run-on sentences seem to be the only thing that penetrates your mental defenses.

    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I can come up with dozens of Ron Paul interviews...
    Then do it.. Just do it. Do it already.

    Or are you afraid we might make you actually understand what the man actually said?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 12-04-2019 at 08:43 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    My tax dollars paid to fund ISIS and make fake beheading videos. Are you saying we shouldn't get our monies worth??

  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    "You must spread some Reputation around..."

    Actually Ron reminds us fairly regularly that there is no fundamental difference between the two parties. It's a shame that some are so blinded by partisan zealotry that they don't even notice it.
    Ron uses globalist talking points to sell his liberty first constitutional ideology. If you were paying attention though there is a new strain of progressive democrat socialist ideology that is becoming main stream that is open borders. That is why this whole thread exists, if the two parties were the same than people wouldnt be encouraging unlimited immigration in order to create a majority party as a political strategy because if they were the same on this issue having unlimited immigration would attract votes to both parties not create a single party majority.

  16. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I did refute you. You ignored that. Remarks about your run-on sentences seem to be the only thing that penetrates your mental defenses.



    Then do it.. Just do it. Do it already.

    Or are you afraid we might make you actually understand what the man actually said?
    Paf refuses to acknowledge that Ron Paul isnt for open borders and ran on a platform of securing the border. He pretends like Ron Paul didnt vote on things like securing the border even though he was never afraid to vote no by himself on stuff he disagrees with. If you want though make the thread. If you make it i will come. Ill pull up the reddit ama with Ron Paul from 2007 and his interviews where he is asked why he isn't running 3rd party. Ill make a whole day of it.

  17. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Paf refuses to acknowledge
    PAF says things you can't seem to understand, and apparently Ron Paul does too. And it seems you know this, as you threaten to post dozens of vids of Ron Paul parroting your worldview, but you can't or won't come up with a single one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    My tax dollars paid to fund ISIS and make fake beheading videos. Are you saying we shouldn't get our monies worth??

  18. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Ron uses globalist talking points to sell his liberty first constitutional ideology. If you were paying attention though there is a new strain of progressive democrat socialist ideology that is becoming main stream that is open borders. That is why this whole thread exists, if the two parties were the same than people wouldnt be encouraging unlimited immigration in order to create a majority party as a political strategy because if they were the same on this issue having unlimited immigration would attract votes to both parties not create a single party majority.
    Here we go again with "open borders", which go hand in hand with private property rights, liberty, freedom and fiscal responsibility.

    Closed Borders:

    Private Property Eminent Domain, tax payer dollars to steal, and pay for steel.
    More ICE, DHS, to ENFORCE, government workers and databases to process.
    Pre-determine another human beings fate.
    Elimination of Private Contract Rights between employer and employee.
    Automatically grants government benefits, mandated minimum wage, Grows and Funds the Fed via Federal Income Tax.
    eVerify for all Americans, Government Visa's a-la Papers Please.
    Brings to the National forefront/control what should be Local only.

    Along with republicans, I am certain the democrats/Globalists want the same exact thing. They just use different "jargon". Because it opposes individuality, liberty and freedom, and fiscal responsibility.


    They look to a president/government to "save" them. They look to Iran, China, Mexico and other governments to "blame" them. But they refuse to ever look at their individual selves.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)



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  20. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post

    Actually Ron reminds us fairly regularly that there is no fundamental difference between the two parties. It's a shame that some are so blinded by partisan zealotry that they don't even notice it.


    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post

    Then do it.. Just do it. Do it already.

    Or are you afraid we might make you actually understand what the man actually said?

    I owe both of you + Rep
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

  21. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Here we go again with "open borders", which go hand in hand with private property rights, liberty, freedom and fiscal responsibility.

    Closed Borders:

    Private Property Eminent Domain, tax payer dollars to steal, and pay for steel.
    More ICE, DHS, to ENFORCE, government workers and databases to process.
    Pre-determine another human beings fate.
    Elimination of Private Contract Rights between employer and employee.
    Automatically grants government benefits, mandated minimum wage, Grows and Funds the Fed via Federal Income Tax.
    eVerify for all Americans, Government Visa's a-la Papers Please.
    Brings to the National forefront/control what should be Local only.

    Along with republicans, I am certain the democrats/Globalists want the same exact thing. They just use different "jargon". Because it opposes individuality, liberty and freedom, and fiscal responsibility.


    They look to a president/government to "save" them. They look to Iran, China, Mexico and other governments to "blame" them. But they refuse to ever look at their individual selves.
    Yell at the clouds while the democrats become a majority and take away all your property. Oh yeah i forgot you said you were running away to Mexico and don't give a $#@! about political strategy to stop globalists.

  22. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Yell at the clouds while the democrats become a majority and take away all your property. Oh yeah i forgot you said you were running away to Mexico and don't give a $#@! about political strategy to stop globalists.
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post

    They look to a president/government to "save" them. They look to Iran, China, Mexico and other governments to "blame" them. But they refuse to ever look at their individual selves.

    Oh, and blame the "democrat" party too, for what "republicans" are doing themselves.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

  23. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    PAF says things you can't seem to understand, and apparently Ron Paul does too. And it seems you know this, as you threaten to post dozens of vids of Ron Paul parroting your worldview, but you can't or won't come up with a single one.

    Partisan zealotry blinds one to even that which is patently obvious. Makes it difficult to get through to some people.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  24. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Oh, and blame the "democrat" party too, for what "republicans" are doing themselves.
    I think your political strategy of running away to Mexico is the best way to save America. Paf.

  25. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Partisan zealotry blinds one to even that which is patently obvious. Makes it difficult to get through to some people.
    Ya think?

    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    My friend was in Reno when the Mccain people locked the Ron Paul people out and stole the delegates in 2007. The tea party wave after that didnt not ever happen. We didnt not get a Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky. Political wars are over when you give up after losing a battle and join the other team.
    Never mind the meaningless word salad at the end. Your friend is a liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonhlasvegas2008 View Post
    http://nevada4ronpaul.com/NVNewsArch...strawpoll.html


    PRESS RELEASE
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    Ron Paul Wins Another Straw Poll in Nevada

    RENO, NV, 10/26/07--For the second time in as many weeks, Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has won a straw poll in the key primary state of Nevada. In this straw poll held by the local Washoe County Republicans at a caucus training event, Ron Paul beat all other candidates with an overwhelming 41.2% of the vote.

    Rudy Giuliani had 18.5% of the vote, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney had 13.5%, and Duncan Hunter came in fourth place with 10.9% of the vote. John McCain was in fifth place with 4.2%. Michele Beard, secretary for the Washoe County Republicans, estimated three hundred people attended the caucus training event.

    "It might just be . . . that freedom is popular!" Ron Paul has said in response to questions about his unprecedented grassroots support from around the country. Over fifty thousand people in the United States have joined volunteer Ron Paul organizations to support his bid for the presidency. The ten term congressman from Texas caught the attention of the media earlier this month when his campaign announced that 5 million dollars had been raised in the last quarter.

    Ron Paul has also been winning numerous straw polls across the country recently. He has been among the top three candidates in thirty recent major presidential straw polls, and has won fourteen of them.

    We did it again...

    Ron Paul Sweeps the Field with 41.2%

    Congratulations everyone!

    Washoe Republican Chairwoman, Heidi Smith, said her webmaster was out of town. However, she announced the results tonight at the Century Club meeting, and graciously allowed us to copy the results for posting on our website.

    The results were as follows:

    Ron Paul................41.2%
    Rudy Giuliani...........18.5%
    Mitt Romney.............13.5%
    Duncan Hunter...........10.9%
    Mike Huckabee............5.0%
    John McCain..............4.2%
    Fred Thompson............2.5%
    Sam Brownback.............<1%
    Tom Tancredo..............<1%
    Gen. Petraeus.............<1%
    None of the Above.........<1%

    Thanks to Heidi for the info!

    Good job Reno Ron Paul-ers!
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    What does that have to do with the McCain people locking them out of the building in Reno before the convention. ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    My tax dollars paid to fund ISIS and make fake beheading videos. Are you saying we shouldn't get our monies worth??

  26. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I think your political strategy of running away to Mexico is the best way to save America. Paf.
    That's the plan anyway. But I need your help. Please use your "political strategy" to convince the Donald NOT to sign any Globalist USMCA/North American Union - I do NOT want Amerika's grubby fingers, filled with Government Tribunals, Forced Minimum Wage, among other things anywhere near where I can afford to live.

    Oh wait... he already signed it. I think I heard him mention that repubs and dems must work fast get it ratified.

    Or is that somebody else's fault, too?
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

  27. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I think your political strategy of running away to Mexico is the best way to save America. Paf.
    Still waiting on those video's acp was asking for.......
    "The Patriarch"



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  29. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    That's the plan anyway. But I need your help. Please use your "political strategy" to convince the Donald NOT to sign any Globalist USMCA/North American Union - I do NOT want Amerika's grubby fingers, filled with Government Tribunals, Forced Minimum Wage, among other things anywhere near where I can afford to live.

    Oh wait... he already signed it. I think I heard him mention that repubs and dems must work fast get it ratified.

    Or is that somebody else's fault, too?
    Your right moving to Mexico is the winning strategy.

  30. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Your right moving to Mexico is the winning strategy.
    As an Individual, I will do what I must to seek the most amount of freedom, and live within my own means most conducive to my lifestyle - not look to government and help/further fund it.

    Ron and I will be at AnarchApulco to help spread the seeds of liberty and to talk to them about Trumps signature but horrid USMCA- hope to see you there!
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

  31. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Still waiting on those video's acp was asking for.......

    Don't hold your breath.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  32. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    As an Individual, I will do what I must to seek the most amount of freedom, and live within my own means most conducive to my lifestyle - not look to government and help/further fund it.

    Ron and I will be at AnarchApulco to help spread the seeds of liberty and to talk to them about Trumps signature but horrid USMCA- hope to see you there!
    Whatever justifies your motive for walking away while your country is on fire. Good on you PAF. You are a real hero.

  33. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Whatever justifies your motive for walking away while your country is on fire. Good on you PAF. You are a real hero.
    And you feel justified and heroic staying and pouring kerosene?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    My tax dollars paid to fund ISIS and make fake beheading videos. Are you saying we shouldn't get our monies worth??

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