The incident depicted in the videos below is a couple years old but I happened to stumble across it just today:
Video 1:
Video 2:
In Video 1, we see an individual using the simple act of screaming to disrupt some kind of political gathering. The participants of the gathering are pretty aggressive in their response, although they do not resort to physical violence (on review, I see that one woman does bonk her over the head with a flag but it doesn't seem to have been a strong hit). In Video 2, we see the entire gathering devolve into an animalistic showdown where the disruptive individual is surrounded and harried with animal-like screams, grunts, clucks and so on.
This incident, besides being somewhere between appalling and hilarious, is actually quite instructive. I spoke with a friend recently who explained to me that we should not settle for the truth in political discussions because the other side is not going to settle for the truth, either. The explanation he gave is a lot like the way lawyers choose numbers for court settlement negotiations. Each side chooses their "fantasy number" and then a series of negotiations occurs that resembles the game of chicken (from game-theory). Each side is trying to convince the other that they are "more than willing" to go back to court and fight the battle to the finish in trial, while demanding some unreasonably high (or low) number for settling. In political discussion, the analogy goes, we have to start by aiming "well past" the truth so that, when all is said and done, something like the truth will actually emerge. Otherwise, the other side will dominate the narrative and the truth will be suppressed. History will be revised by the victors and our descendants will fail to learn from our mistakes.
This seems reasonable at first blush and it is the general line of thinking behind the "Crossfire" format TV news interviews that became popular with cable news channels in the 1990's. This format continues to be the dominant style of "balanced" news reporting to this day. However reasonable this approach might seem to be, it does not and cannot lead to communication (to each other or the anchors, let alone the viewers). Just like the game-of-chicken played by lawyers during settlement negotiations, no factual picture of the truth is produced by either side of the dispute and any attempt at synthesizing stories from both sides is doomed to failure. The respective positions are so contradictory as to be unintelligible, either separately or combined, to a disinterested third party trying to make an objective assessment of the facts in the dispute.
In the limit, this game-of-chicken approach to truth is guaranteed to devolve to the clucking, screeching and harrying seen in the videos linked above. Although it rarely devolves to this extreme on television, the Crossfire-format news interviews regularly devolve to little more than shouting matches, each side trying to blank out the other side's words so that the viewer simply will not be able to hear them, and vice-versa. It's just auditory jamming.
I biology, the field of signalling theory deals with the question of communication between animals, many of whom often have conflicting interests. Signalling in the animal world might sometimes be honest but its purpose is never honesty, or truth-as-such. The subject of human philosophy, by contrast, is supposed to be about the search for truth... even if truth cannot be attained, then philosophy is supposed to be the field that tackles this reality. But in order for it to even be possible to arrive at truth-as-such in the course of a discussion between two or more individuals, animalistic competitiveness like we see in nature must be absent. In short, any "game-theoretic" approach to truth is guaranteed to fail to attain truth because the competitive interests of the participants in the "discussion" will color everything they say, all the facts they present, the way they respond to one another's points, and so on. In short, the "Crossfire" approach of pitting two participants who are each trying to shift public opinion into a debate with one another is guaranteed to fail to produce rational communication and will fail to produce facts and arguments that move each other's beliefs (or the beliefs of spectators) closer to truth-as-such.
I am using the term "truth-commitment" to refer to some undefinable stance within the individual of complete commitment to attaining truth. If I have truth-commitment and you have truth-commitment then, even if we start a discussion with very different beliefs and have access to very different facts, by the end of the discussion, we should have moved much closer to each other's point-of-view. When I see your facts, this will change my perspective to be closer to yours (because I have truth-commitment). And vice-versa. When I hear your well thought-out reasons based on good principles of logical reasoning, this will change my perspective to be closer to yours. And vice-versa. Therefore, individuals with truth-commitment only need to be able to share facts (including bias-detection in the set of available facts) and good arguments with one another. As long as information and reasons can spread evenly and quickly in the group, individuals in the group will tend to quickly converge on a very similar set of beliefs.
Of course, it is possible to jettison truth-commitment at any point and it is also possible to fake truth-commitment, that is, attempt to dupe others who are actually truth-committed into mistakenly believing you are also truth-committed when you are not. These kinds of one-sided game-theoretic discussions -- where one side is genuinely seeking truth-as-such, and the other side is simply seeking to persuade -- are a complex topic and would require a separate thread unto themselves. Suffice it to say that the broad choice is between animal-like signalling -- where honesty is only present if it happens to be useful for the aims and ends of the participant -- and rational communication. Rational communication is possible only when all participants to a discussion share truth-commitment. Otherwise, it's just clucking and screeching disguised as rational discussion by virtue of the use of dictionary words strung together into valid grammatical forms. A donkey's bray conveys as much meaningful information.
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