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Thread: Why does Trump support the PATRIOT ACT?

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    Question Why does Trump support the PATRIOT ACT?

    He just renewed it again.
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    Clearly its all part of the 3-D dimensional chess.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    He just renewed it again.
    The same reason he supports face scanning cameras at airports and on the "border fence" and bumpfire stock bans and red flag laws. Oh...that's right. He backed off the red flag laws and now supports Orwellian "pre-crime" initiatives.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    The same reason he supports face scanning cameras at airports and on the "border fence" and bumpfire stock bans and red flag laws. Oh...that's right. He backed off the red flag laws and now supports Orwellian "pre-crime" initiatives.
    He's a big hit with the police.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Because he's a full-blown authoritarian, a toxic narcissist and a sociopath. I'd have thought the answer was obvious.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    He just renewed it again.

    Why>>>>

    A sad day, not at all what I had expected from Trump.

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Because he's a full-blown authoritarian, a toxic narcissist and a sociopath. I'd have thought the answer was obvious.
    Whaaaatttt????? How can you say that about The Orange Emperor?
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Why>>>>

    A sad day, not at all what I had expected from Trump.
    Why not?
    "The Patriarch"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Why>>>>

    A sad day, not at all what I had expected from Trump.
    I'm disappointed too but it's only temporary:

    The House and Senate are doing what the deep state does so well. Buried in the final pages of a short term Continuing Resolution (CR) to fund government, the controversial bulk metadata (Call Detail Records) within the FISA program, due to expire on December 15th, is being extended to March 15th, 2020.
    As we suspected the intelligence community -and most of congress- wants the reauthorization, even if temporary, prior to the release of a critical IG report on FISA abuse. That said, a short term extension is the best case scenario when we consider the goal of the intelligence apparatus -writ large- was a permanent reauthorization.
    The “business records provision”, the “roving wiretap” provision, the “lone wolf” provision, and the more controversial bulk metadata provisions [Call Detail Records (CDR)], parts of the Patriot Act, are going to be revisited *AFTER* the report by IG Horowitz. The new deadline for terminal expiration will be March 15th, 2020.


    More at: https://theconservativetreehouse.com...0/#more-176422
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Whaaaatttt????? How can you say that about The Orange Emperor?

    I'll report for re-education immediately. I can't imagine what I was thinking.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    I'll report for re-education immediately. I can't imagine what I was thinking.
    Turn in your citizenship card report to the nearest office of Goodthink.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Turn in your citizenship card report to the nearest office of Goodthink.

    Ya vol mein genosse!
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That said, a short term extension is the best case scenario when we consider the goal of the intelligence apparatus -writ large- was a permanent reauthorization.

    More at: https://theconservativetreehouse.com...0/#more-176422
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    My tax dollars paid to fund ISIS and make fake beheading videos. Are you saying we shouldn't get our monies worth??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm disappointed too but it's only temporary:

    The House and Senate are doing what the deep state does so well. Buried in the final pages of a short term Continuing Resolution (CR) to fund government, the controversial bulk metadata (Call Detail Records) within the FISA program, due to expire on December 15th, is being extended to March 15th, 2020.
    As we suspected the intelligence community -and most of congress- wants the reauthorization, even if temporary, prior to the release of a critical IG report on FISA abuse. That said, a short term extension is the best case scenario when we consider the goal of the intelligence apparatus -writ large- was a permanent reauthorization.
    The “business records provision”, the “roving wiretap” provision, the “lone wolf” provision, and the more controversial bulk metadata provisions [Call Detail Records (CDR)], parts of the Patriot Act, are going to be revisited *AFTER* the report by IG Horowitz. The new deadline for terminal expiration will be March 15th, 2020.


    More at: https://theconservativetreehouse.com...0/#more-176422
    And so when the Patriot Act gets re-authorized prior to March 15th, 2020......?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    And so when the Patriot Act gets re-authorized prior to March 15th, 2020......?
    Trump will make sure that's only temporary too, because that way he gets more bribes when it expires it lets his shills claim temporary is better than Hillary 5D Chess.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    My tax dollars paid to fund ISIS and make fake beheading videos. Are you saying we shouldn't get our monies worth??

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Trump will make sure that's only temporary too, because that way he gets more bribes when it expires it lets his shills claim temporary is better than Hillary 5D Chess.

    That's Quantum Dark Energy Wormhole Chess.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul



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    Trump is a Patriot. Of course he would support a Patriot Act.
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  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Trump is a Patriot. Of course he would support a Patriot Act.
    Well geez, when you put it that way...

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  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    He just renewed it again.
    He's that kind of "patriot"?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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