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Thread: Ron Paul; ''What My Presidency Would Have Been Like'' w/ Tom Woods

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    Ron Paul; ''What My Presidency Would Have Been Like'' w/ Tom Woods

    https://tomwoods.com/ep-1535-ron-pau...e/?omhide=true


    If you're tired of the Trumper's version of libertarian, you might like listening to Ron Paul talk about current events with Tom Woods.

    So many take-aways.

    ''Maybe the first 100 years we believed in self-reliance...''

    ''Negative interest rates are bizarre''

    ''As soon someone calls you a plant, that person isn't worth dealing with''

    ''We have to be loud.''

    ''Incrementalism won't work''



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    What? You mean a Ron Paul presidency wouln't have been almost exactly like a Trump presidency? Who knew?
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    What? You mean a Ron Paul presidency wouln't have been almost exactly like a Trump presidency? Who knew?
    I guess you didn't listen yet. He says, among other things, he would have brought the troops home immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    I guess you didn't listen yet. He says, among other things, he would have brought the troops home immediately.

    Is your sarcasm detector on the fritz?
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Is your sarcasm detector on the fritz?
    Apparently. I will not lie - listening to the man makes me emotional.
    Last edited by angelatc; 11-20-2019 at 02:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Apparently. I will not lie - listening to the man makes me emotional.

    That's not necessarily a bad thing. Listening now, but I pretty much know what I'm gonna hear and itvain't MAGA BS.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    That's not necessarily a bad thing. Listening now, but I pretty much know what I'm gonna hear and itvain't MAGA BS.
    And the best part is that it isn't about Trump really at all. How long it has been...

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    "As long as we're telling the truth to the best of our ability I still think we'll win." - Ron Paul
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul



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    Dig it, the man is awesome, as always!
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    If Ron Paul had won, the west coast probably would have seceded. There would be chaos and war between the states. Our nation's infrastructure would be crippled, and the white house would have been bulldozed by either war or by Ron himself.

    Let's all thank our lucky stars that didn't happen! That would just be horrible.
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    And at least thirteen poisoning attempts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

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    It's also interesting to note that Ron reiterates several times the fact that there is no fundamental difference between the parties. They're both primarily interested in expanding state power and control, they just aporoach it from different angles.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Ron is a great man and a great philosopher but he isn't perfect and as a political strategist he's hopeless.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Ron is a great man and a great philosopher but he isn't perfect and as a political strategist he's hopeless.
    And what does this have to do with the video in the OP?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    And what does this have to do with the video in the OP?
    ''Incrementalism won't work''

    For now it's the only thing that will work.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    It's also interesting to note that Ron reiterates several times the fact that there is no fundamental difference between the parties. They're both primarily interested in expanding state power and control, they just aporoach it from different angles.
    I can attest that that is the truth. I have sat on committees, participated in many a meeting, involved in more campaigns that I care to remember (except Ron Paul’s which I would do again in a heart beat). They [republicans] love to talk the rhetoric, but when it comes down to it they are just as bad as democrats. Worse even, because they know how to rope folks in slowly but surely, losing sense of the foundation of freedom and conservatism. At least the democrats are open and honest about it and you know where they stand. I have no use for political parties anymore, this one centralized government. I enjoy living as free as I can the best that I can, considering the circumstances, and spreading the message of freedom and liberty, and of course Ron Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    And what does this have to do with the video in the OP?
    Ron Paul is a danger to his statist agenda. That’s what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ''Incrementalism won't work''

    For now it's the only thing that will work.
    Oh.

    Then nothing will work. As proven by the fact that nothing is working.

    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    They [republicans] love to talk the rhetoric, but when it comes down to it they are just as bad as democrats. Worse even, because they know how to rope folks in slowly but surely, losing sense of the foundation of freedom and conservatism.
    Somebody nearby resembles that remark.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 11-20-2019 at 04:56 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Oh.

    Then nothing will work. As proven by the fact that nothing is working.
    Incrementalism is working.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Ron Paul is a danger to his statist agenda. That’s what.
    I wish he was.
    He used to be.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Incrementalism is working.
    Sure it is. With the biggest debt in human history. The earth’s even. $23 trillion and climbing, and that’s not even a valid figure.

    You sure are a comedian. LOL not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Sure it is. With the biggest debt in human history. The earth’s even. $23 trillion and climbing, and that’s not even a valid figure.

    You sure are a comedian. LOL not.
    We are only just starting to turn things around.
    Complaining that incrementalism hasn't done everything completely all at once isn't rational.

    And your efforts haven't produced any results by comparison.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Incrementalism is working.
    You do love inflation.

    Just like Zippy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You do love inflation.

    Just like Zippy.
    Your usual slander.
    I hate inflation and I have said so many times.

    You are also trying to change the subject.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Your usual slander.
    I hate inflation and I have said so many times.

    You are also trying to change the subject.
    Well, it's incrementalizing the wrong damned direction.

    All this is exactly what I've been hearing from Republicans since before you were born. You ain't nothing new; even your terrierlike refusal to quit nagging and give it a rest is nothing new. It never incrementalizes the right direction.

    But don't feel too bad. democrats have been singing the same song about certain civil liberties since before you were born, and that never incrementalizes the right direction either.

    And I didn't bring up Ye Olde Empty Incrementalization Promise, you did.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 11-20-2019 at 05:45 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Well, it's incrementalizing the wrong damned direction.

    All this is exactly what I've been hearing from Republicans since before you were born. You ain't nothing new; even your terrierlike refusal to quit nagging and give it a rest is nothing new. It never incrementalizes the right direction.

    But don't feel too bad. democrats have been singing the same song about certain civil liberties since before you were born, and that never incrementalizes the right direction either.

    And I didn't bring up Ye Olde Empty Incrementalization Promise, you did.
    Now we are incrementally changing the direction, Swampublicans never did anything but slow the move in the wrong direction Trump is changing the direction.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Did you just happen to notice that this thread is about what the namesake of this forum might have done, and is not about what the Great Orange Alpha Did ain't doing?

    Just wondering if you happened to see that...
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Did you just happen to notice that this thread is about what the namesake of this forum might have done, and is not about what the Great Orange Alpha Did ain't doing?

    Just wondering if you happened to see that...
    Did you happen to notice that I am debating one of Ron's claims?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Did you happen to notice that I am debating one of Ron's claims?
    SS - debating - Ron’s “claims”.

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    The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Did you happen to notice that I am debating one of Ron's claims?
    I didn't hear that in the podcast in the OP of this thread. What minute mark was that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

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