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Thread: Kavanaugh 2.0 - Jim Jordan Faces Accusations From Almost 40 Years Ago

  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    All of a sudden you want us to believe you weren't using sarcasm?
    Of course not, I'm always using sarcasm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Try explaining these:

    (that was your 1st post)
    Why would it be a good thing unless you mean that he is guilty?
    It's a good thing for him because otherwise the Pizzagate faithful would hound him to the ends of the earth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Not only are you wrong as I showed in my reply but you are claiming that the "evidence" against Jordan has some substance to it which it has not.
    Jordan's events involve actual people instead of imaginary people. That is a substantive difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Implying that Jordan has "victims" when even the liars who have come forward don't claim he victimized them.
    Implying that Podesta has "victims" when...


    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Directly calling Jordan a pedo.
    You're either intentionally or unintentionally missing the context. For those who imagine pedos to be lurking in every nook and cranny, it's strange that they do not consider him to be a pedo.

    If imaginary pedo is an important category of pedo, then it's important that we apply that category consistently.
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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    No one can prove a negative. This is rather important to the clown shoe worldview, really, as their beliefs can never be disproven.


    You say that there is proof that there was child porn on Comet Ping Pong's website. Go on, then, prove it.
    You're the one who was claiming you could prove a negative. All I did was say that you couldn't.

    I said we had been told there was proof that they had child porn on their website, and then somebody went in and conveniently shot the hard drive on the computer that had the website. Either it was done on purpose, or it was a million to one coincidence. I also said there are police sketches of the Podesta brothers that were involved and on the scene at a child abduction, they look exactly like them.

    Any reasonable person, any investigator, any prosecutor is going to say that is enough evidence to look more into what was going on, at minimum. More investigation is required. Question witnesses, get evidence, etc. I know exactly what they will find if they did that, because I know a lot more about this $#@! than most people. But there is enough evidence right in front of us that it is worth investigating. We know why it hasn't been, the same reason Epstein got a slap on the wrist and got to abuse girls for another 10 years after he went through the court system.
    Last edited by dannno; 11-17-2019 at 10:16 PM.
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    You're the one who was claiming you could prove a negative. All I did was say that you couldn't.

    I said we had been told there was proof that they had child porn on their website, and then somebody went in and conveniently shot the hard drive on the computer that had the website. Either it was done on purpose, or it was a million to one coincidence. I also said there are police sketches of the Podesta brothers that were involved and on the scene at a child abduction, they look exactly like them.

    Any reasonable person, any investigator, any prosecutor is going to say that is enough evidence to look more into what was going on, at minimum. More investigation is required. Question witnesses, get evidence, etc. I know exactly what they will find if they did that, because I know a lot more about this $#@! than most people. But there is enough evidence right in front of us that it is worth investigating. We know why it hasn't been, the same reason Epstein got a slap on the wrist and got to abuse girls for another 10 years after he went through the court system.
    And yet he asks us to believe that dubious politically motivated accusations that Jordan might have known something are as bad or worse.
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  5. #64
    This Jim Jordan thing doesn't seem to be getting much in the way of traction, even in corporate media. They might not care about truth, but they do care about salaciousness and this is weak tea.
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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I said we had been told there was proof that they had child porn on their website, and then somebody went in and conveniently shot the hard drive on the computer that had the website.
    Believing that the computer that was shot was hosting their website requires an additional layer of religious faith.


    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I also said there are police sketches of the Podesta brothers that were involved and on the scene at a child abduction
    Which is false


    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Any reasonable person, any investigator, any prosecutor is going to say that is enough evidence to look more into what was going on, at minimum.
    What evidence?


    • A chaturbate video said something that you want to believe is true
    • There are two sketches of one guy, but those two sketches actually look like two guys, so maybe the witness was wrong when they said that it was one guy and instead it was actually two guys
    Last edited by TheCount; 11-18-2019 at 09:03 AM.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Believing that the computer that was shot was hosting their website requires an additional layer of religious faith.
    Not if it was hosting child porn.. if it was hosting child porn they are going to be doing it on an encrypted local machine, likely at the place of business, not on a server that somebody else controls.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Which is false
    I guess you are blind, because it looks EXACTLY like them. Fortunately $#@! like this really exposes the nature of people like you. When there is a police photo that looks like somebody, you report it and it gets investigated. It looks like them. Time to investigate. The bull$#@! explanations you have made don't stand up to scrutiny. It looks like them, time to investigate.

    Why don't we start by showing the photos to the witness(es) who made the sketch, and show them pictures of the Podestas from that time and see what they say instead of relying on some bull$#@! explanation from a faulty police report? That is how things work in real life when investigating serious crimes.

    Only serious douchbags protect people just because they have a lot of power in government.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Not if it was hosting child porn.. if it was hosting child porn they are going to be doing it on an encrypted local machine, likely at the place of business, not on a server that somebody else controls.
    This is what amounts to evidence in your world.

    As I said, religious faith.



    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I guess you are blind, because it looks EXACTLY like them.
    One person looks like both of them?
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    This is what amounts to evidence in your world.
    Facts are evidence, yes, that is true.



    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    One person looks like both of them?
    Why don't we just ask the witness(es) who helped create the sketches so we can get that cleared up instead of relying on a faulty police report? Is that too much to ask? Isn't that what normally would happen for anything else, including burglary, etc?

    Oh, that's right, you are a pedo protector. You go to great lengths to defend pedophiles. According to you, we definitely shouldn't look into anything suspicious if it is related to finding pedophiles, especially if they are powerful people.

    I'm not a Christian, I have no idea if Christianity is even true. One thing I will tell you, is that if it is true, you are definitely going to hell. To the very bottom of it.

    If there is a place where evil people go after they die on earth, that is where you will be.
    Last edited by dannno; 11-18-2019 at 03:10 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Oh, that's right, you are a pedo protector. You go to great lengths to defend pedophiles. According to you, we definitely shouldn't look into anything suspicious if it is related to finding pedophiles, especially if they are powerful people.
    You mean like investigating Gym Jordan? Isn't that related to finding pedophiles, especially if they are powerful people?



    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I'm not a Christian, I have no idea if Christianity is even true. One thing I will tell you, is that if it is true, you are definitely going to hell. To the very bottom of it.

    If there is a place where evil people go after they die on earth, that is where you will be.
    Sir, this is a Wendy's.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    You mean like investigating Gym Jordan? Isn't that related to finding pedophiles, especially if they are powerful people?
    This would be a bannable offense if this was my forum. You would have been gone a long time ago. You should be grateful for how tolerant this forum is for the few people who purposely lie and spout bull$#@! on here all day long like yourself.

    Clearly, Jordan was not actually accused of pedophilia. He was accused of not reporting a school nurse that students had joked about abusing them in the locker room, which, allegedly, he may or may not have heard.

    The students said they "thought" he "must" have heard them talking (aka "joking") about it, but none of them personally discussed it with him.

    That means, so far, there is no evidence for a case. Find a witness who approached him and said he was concerned because he was abused by the school nurse, or some evidence that Jim Jordan knew or covered it up, then let's investigate more. Until then, there is no case.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    This would be a bannable offense if this was my forum. You would have been gone a long time ago. You should be grateful for how tolerant this forum is for people who purposely lie and spout bull$#@! on here all day long.
    Sir, this is a Wendy's.



    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Clearly, Jordan was not actually accused of pedophilia. He was accused of not reporting a school nurse that students had joked about abusing them in the locker room, which, allegedly, he may or may not have heard.
    Things which should be investigated:

    • A computer which someone on the internet thinks maybe could have hosted a website which someone else on the internet said had files on it that yet another person on the internet said were child pornography, even though there's no evidence that the computer hosted the site, or that it had the files on it, or that the files on the website were actually child pornography
    • Two sketches of one guy which, according to someone on the internet, look like they might actually be one sketch of two guys who live two thousand miles away



    Things which should not be investigated:
    • Allegations of actual sexual misconduct which may have actually occured
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Things which should not be investigated:
    • Allegations of actual sexual misconduct which may have actually occured
    They can investigate it for the purposes of punishing school nurse, I have no problem with that. If something comes up implicating Jim Jordan, let me know. So far the issue is that there is zero evidence that Jim Jordan did anything wrong, new about it, or covered it up. In fact, the evidence points to the opposite conclusion.

    I can name countless pieces of evidence worth investigating over pizzagate. The problem is whenever I name, them, you cherry pick and mischaracterize. That is your MO.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    This would be a bannable offense if this was my forum. You would have been gone a long time ago. You should be grateful for how tolerant this forum is for the few people who purposely lie and spout bull$#@! on here all day long like yourself.
    It's that tolerance that is killing this forum.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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