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    If Not For Government - Larken Rose

    Another great vid from Larken Rose. Not new but still worth the time to watch.


    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul



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    + Rep

    That about sums it up, which is why I don’t play in the statist sandbox anymore. Keep living and spreading it, hopefully folks will think it through and hop on board.
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    It's probably appropriate that he filmed his video in a forest.

    With no roads.
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    Without government, who would overthrow foreign governments?
    "The Patriarch"

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    And with just people, how long until they are a boss, and then boss others around. Stating naivety right here, by idealists.

    The guy in the video doesn't understand that, government has regulation because of the mistakes of people from history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    And with just people, how long until they are a boss, and then boss others around. Stating naivety right here, by idealists.

    The guy in the video doesn't understand that, government has regulation because of the mistakes of people from history.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Your country has little regulation, so nobody has to bother to pay. That is where the problems begin. Nobody wants to live more than a century ago. The bloke doesn't seem to understand that, a road in one place may be built by skilled men and women, but in others may be more challenging. This sort of narrow view he has suggested, is a straw man's attitude to life. Just another way of behaving as if the society can be solved by others and not those advocating it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post

    Seconded.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Your country has little regulation, so nobody has to bother to pay. That is where the problems begin.
    Actually, this country has recently accumulated one hell of a lot of regulation, and that's exactly when the problems began.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Actually, this country has recently accumulated one hell of a lot of regulation, and that's exactly when the problems began.
    Idealism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Idealism.
    Yeah. Idealism > regulations > problems.

    We didn't have these problems before. That's why we had time for idealism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Yeah. Idealism > regulations > problems.

    We didn't have these problems before. That's why we had time for idealism.
    Regulation exists for what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Regulation exists for what?
    To collect revenue and keep those who haven't bribed officials sufficiently from accessing the market.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    To collect revenue and keep those who haven't bribed officials sufficiently from accessing the market.

    And let's not forget that regulation is also intended to keep the rabble, that's us, basically, in line by providing excusses to harrass and arrest them when needs be.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    And can you name regulation that does this? And what regulation is best keeping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    And can you name regulation that does this? And what regulation is best keeping?
    I could name dozen regulations off the top of my head that exist only so government can impose a burden on people with little benefit.. The only regulations that make sense are where you don't have clear property rights where someone can't easily be sued if they impose a cost. Environmental regulations are an example. No one owns the air. If someone pollutes chemicals it can be hard to prove someone is harmed on the individual level even if you know in aggregate people die. You probably need some minimal regulation in banking because people abuse leverage and have a taxpayer backstop with the Federal Reserve and deposit insurance. Those are the only examples I can think of.

    Regulating taxis would answer your first question. Cities restrict licenses which makes them worth hundred of thousands in big cities. They serve no purpose other than to limit competition. It costs $600k to get a license in Boston. Who is helped by that other than the monopolists who lobbied for it? Uber demonstrates you can get a cheaper, non-piss smelling ride without government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_medallion

    Drug laws whether for legal or illegal drugs. Tufts university estimates it costs $2.6 billion to get a drug through the FDA regulatory process. https://www.policymed.com/2014/12/a-...inical-de.html This causes huge costs which limits access to drugs and it also keeps good drugs off the market for longer than necessary. If a cholesterol drug saves 2000 lives a year but takes five more years to approve because of regulation, that means the government just killed 10,000 people. https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2011/0...l#6ac5629a1bbc
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    Roads are great but don't forget we wouldn't even have the internet without government. Without government there would be no RPF, no Facebook, and certainly no 4k HD porn of infinite varieties.

    Thank you government!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    And can you name regulation that does this?

    Start with occupational state papers for jobs like florist and hair braider.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    There is a reason for a license for employment, for certain skills, or requirements. In the past, that may of not been needed, but some are. These can't all be nanny mindset. There is usually a reason for these requirements, usually because of poor use in the first place.



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