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    US Troops To Stay In Afghanistan Several More Years, Top General; Wars Not Worth It, Most Vets

    How can a subordinate contradict (apparently) a sitting Commander-in-Chief reputated as a fearless alpha leader, two and two don't add up:


    Most veterans believe the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan weren’t worth fighting

    James Clark
    November 08, 2019
    U.S. Army cavalrymen from 1st Platoon, Bulldog Troop, 1st Squadron, 91st Cavalry Regiment; walk by some of the qalat buildings of Charkh District while on their way into the village of Paspajak, Logar province, Afghanistan, June 20. (U.S. Army photo)
    The majority of U.S. military veterans say America's most recent wars were not worth fighting, according to the results of a recent Pew Research Center survey published ahead of Veterans Day.
    taskandpurpose.com/iraq-afghanistan-veterans-day-poll


    U.S. Troops To Stay In Afghanistan Several More Years, Top General Says


    November 10, 2019



    The chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Milley

    U.S. Army General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has predicted that American troops, already in Afghanistan for 18 years, would remain in the country "for several more years."

    In an ABC interview broadcast on November 10, Milley noted that, after the September 11 attacks in 2001, the original reason U.S. forces went into Afghanistan was to make sure that the country never again would be a haven for extremists who would attack the United States.

    "That mission is not yet complete," the general said. "In order for that mission to be successful the government of Afghanistan, the Afghan security forces, are going to have to be able to sustain their own internal security to prevent terrorists using their territory to attack other countries, especially the United States."

    There are some 14,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, as well as thousands of European forces participating in the NATO-led Resolute Support mission.




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    Trump says otherwise.
    The military can try to defy him but they don't get the final say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Military is trained to follow orders, not defy. Discipline is paramount.
    You make it sound as if this is a banana republic.
    They are following orders.
    But not Trump's.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    The US troops will leave when the Deep State no longer wants to protect poppy plants and is satisfied with the destruction they caused to Afghanistan.
    Last edited by Anti Globalist; 11-11-2019 at 09:38 PM.
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    US Troops To Stay In Afghanistan Several More Years
    Unless Trump loses the 2020 election, and the next president (Commander in Chief) orders them to return to the USA.

    [Almost] anybody but Trump 2020.
    Last edited by RonZeplin; 11-11-2019 at 10:24 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump says otherwise.
    LOL

    How much trust you put in what he says, on a scale of 1 to 10?

    Or you post here for comic relief?


    He says something.

    Then he says otherwise.

    Sometime later he says otherwise of his last 'otherwise' saying.

    Then commences a rinse repeat cycle... frequency depending on remaining gullibles in the spin cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    LOL

    How much trust you put in what he says, on a scale of 1 to 10?
    Believing it during the primaries was the only logical thing to do. Believing it now would be foolish.
    *******

    I didn't start out thinking that anti-vax people were fools or impervious to reason, it's from my experience here that I now think that.
    - AmyPi 2014 (RIP)

    Anti-vaxxers, responsible for a 30 percent uptick in totally preventable diseases in the world, have blood on their hands. They shouldn't be considered civilized members of society. If they refuse to listen to a century of scientific studies confirming time and time again that vaccination is an unquestionable good for humanity, then it's time for us to start treating anti-vaxxers as what they are: dangerous and worthy of shame and condemnation. If we can't convince anti-vaxxers to change their minds, we must attach enough social stigma to the delusion that agnostics cease to join them.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Unless Trump loses the 2020 election, and the next president (Commander in Chief) orders them to return to the USA.

    [Almost] anybody but Trump 2020.
    Trump is the only contender who will bring them home.
    But we know what your agenda really is.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    "That mission is not yet complete," the general said. "In order for that mission to be successful the government of Afghanistan, the Afghan security forces, are going to have to be able to sustain their own internal security to prevent terrorists using their territory to attack other countries, especially the United States."
    Can't we just turn the whole country into a glass parking lot?

    Ya know, click the "reset" button on that country?
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Can't we just turn the whole country into a glass parking lot?

    Ya know, click the "reset" button on that country?
    This is modern age, mass holocaust of civilians of any race/religion/creed is seriously frowned upon now. Use of WMDs on civilian population centers is also a big no-no now.

    You seem to be still entertaining WW1/II mindset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    This is modern age, mass holocaust of civilians of any race/religion/creed is seriously frowned upon now. Use of WMDs on civilian population centers is also a big no-no now.

    You seem to be still entertaining WW1/II mindset.
    I completely agree we definitely don't want another holocaust. No WMD's should ever be used on jews. But I don't think there are any jews in Afghanistan.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!



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