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    Politically speaking, what's the difference between a 'whistleblower' and a 'rat' ?

    Politically speaking, what's the difference between a 'whistleblower' and a 'rat' ?

    Again, in political context and not from mafia perspective.




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    Trump talked to Roger Stone about WikiLeaks, Rick Gates says in testimony contradicting the president

    Published Tue, Nov 12 2019

    Key Points

    • President Donald Trump indicated that “more information would be coming” about WikiLeaks after a phone call during the 2016 campaign with Roger Stone, Rick Gates testified.
    • That claim contrasts with Trump’s written response to special counsel Robert Mueller, in which he said, “I do not recall discussing WikiLeaks with” Stone.
    • Gates testified that another campaign official, Paul Manafort, told him that he would update Trump with any information that he could get from Stone.


    Roger Stone, former advisor to President Donald Trump, arrives with his wife Nydia Stone (R) and his legal team for the second day of his trial at the E. Barrett Prettyman United States Courthouse on November 6, 2019 in Washington, DC.
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    A former top Trump campaign official on Tuesday testified that President Donald Trump talked to political trickster Roger Stone about WikiLeaks during the 2016 campaign.
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    Gates testified in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., that less than a minute after finishing a July 2016 call from Stone, Trump indicated that “more information would be coming” from Wikileaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Politically speaking, what's the difference between a 'whistleblower' and a 'rat' ?

    Again, in political context and not from mafia perspective.




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    A Whistle Blower typically exposes corruption in government , exposes a corrupt govt system operating under cover of law.

    A Rat, is typically someone immersed deep within a brotherhood of a criminal enterprise that outs
    a superior within the ranks for protection or cash offered up by a govt entity, usually a corrupt
    govt entity operating un-constitutionally under color of law.

    So , yea, pretty much the same thing, one is almost indistinguishable from the other , unless you
    gage them by what is printed and broadcast via MSM.











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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    A Whistle Blower typically exposes corruption in government , exposes a corrupt govt system operating under cover of law.

    A Rat, is typically someone immersed deep within a brotherhood of a criminal enterprise that outs
    a superior within the ranks for protection or cash offered up by a govt entity, usually a corrupt
    govt entity operating un-constitutionally under color of law.

    So , yea, pretty much the same thing, one is almost indistinguishable from the other , unless you
    gage them by what is printed and broadcast via MSM.











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    Thank you, this helps.

    Was clear about whistleblower but was bit confused about 'rat' part, was thinking about picking up some old mafia movie to improve my understanding but might not be necessary now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Thank you, this helps.

    Was clear about whistleblower but was bit confused about 'rat' part, was thinking about picking up some old mafia movie to improve my understanding but might not be necessary now.
    Sammy Gravano (Sammy the Bull) was a classic Rat, one of the best known in the history of
    the 'Mob' , Italian Mafia.

    My favorite Mob Series was The Sopranos.

    I see that you get the 'Whistleblower' part of this topic, still this reminds me of William Binney (former NSA a dept head, unwittingly developed and
    later exposed the evil intentions of the govt for his programs, he's one of the most impressive Whistleblowers of our time,
    gets very little media attention and credit.



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