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    Impeachment attempts by Democrats is malicious prosecution

    Filing frivolous legal claims in order to harass and defame someone is malicious prosecution.

    https://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and...osecution.html

    There actually is a legal term for witch hunt.
    Last edited by dude58677; 11-06-2019 at 06:14 PM.



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    Clinton was impeached for lying about having sex. Judges have been impeached for being drunk.
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    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes, that is the new tactic from all the trolls.
    They just assert lies over and over no matter how often they are exposed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Clinton was impeached for lying about having sex. Judges have been impeached for being drunk.
    Neither of which has anything to do with the malicious prosecution of Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Clinton was impeached for lying about having sex. Judges have been impeached for being drunk.

    So you are admitting it is malicious prosecution? “Neocons did it so we can do it too. “ As though two wrongs make a right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Clinton was impeached for lying about having sex. Judges have been impeached for being drunk.
    His crime was not lying about sex, it was obstruction of justice, Obama's obvious crime was not about having a tranny wife (Joan Rivers claim) , it was
    blatant attacks against the Bill of Rights with the implementation of mandated Health Care Insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    His crime was not lying about sex, it was obstruction of justice, Obama's obvious crime was not about having a tranny wife (Joan Rivers claim) , it was
    blatant attacks against the Bill of Rights with the implementation of mandated Health Care Insurance.
    Perjury was the impeachment charge.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes, that is the new tactic from all the trolls.
    They just assert lies over and over no matter how often they are exposed.
    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Perjury was the impeachment charge.
    Which still has nothing to do with the malicious prosecution of Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Perjury was the impeachment charge.
    Obstruction of Justice was the main theme of the day, regarding his crime, the indictment' may have used the word
    perjury but the non liberal pundits used the term Obstruction of Justice.



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    One of these days Dems would learn to be more gracious and less malicious... like their former party mate Trump... hopefully.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Clinton was impeached for lying about having sex. Judges have been impeached for being drunk.
    That is a bold faced lie and my guess is you know that fully well;


    Obstruction of Justice was the issue that bothered Americans that believed in justice.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeac...f_Bill_Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    That is a bold faced lie and my guess is you know that fully well;


    Obstruction of Justice was the issue that bothered Americans that believed in justice.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeac...f_Bill_Clinton
    Read your own link.

    The specific charges against Clinton were lying under oath and obstruction of justice.
    There it is in bold face. Not a lie.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-06-2019 at 07:00 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes, that is the new tactic from all the trolls.
    They just assert lies over and over no matter how often they are exposed.
    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Read your own link.
    Which still has nothing to do with the malicious prosecution of Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Read your own link.
    What does this have to do with the witch hunt?

    You said Clinton Was impeached for being drunk? what does that even mean? Then you admitted that
    he was impeached for perjury.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    What does this have to do with the witch hunt?

    You said Clinton Was impeached for being drunk? what does that even mean? Then you admitted that
    he was impeached for perjury.



    You seem to have a reading problem. First your own link and now my post. Try reading the post again.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-06-2019 at 07:09 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes, that is the new tactic from all the trolls.
    They just assert lies over and over no matter how often they are exposed.
    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Filing frivolous legal claims in order to harass and defame someone is malicious prosecution.

    https://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and...osecution.html

    There actually is a legal term for witch hunt.
    Back to the topic of the thread.
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    You seem to have a reading problem. First your own link and now my post. Try reading the post again.
    Fair enough, what does Clinton have to do with this witch hunt ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    So you are admitting it is malicious prosecution? “Neocons did it so we can do it too. “ As though two wrongs make a right.
    How do you see anything in what he said implying that he admitted those things were malicious prosecution.

    There was nothing at all wrong with the Clinton impeachment.

    Impeachments of presidents are far too rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    How do you see anything in what he said implying that he admitted those things were malicious prosecution.

    There was nothing at all wrong with the Clinton impeachment.

    Impeachments of presidents are far too rare.
    Lets put this in the context of what was stated. Zippy replied to my message regarding malicious prosecution pertaining to the attempt of Democrats to impeach Donald Trump. That the reasons are frivolous and without merit and only to harass the President. Zippy said “so what Bill Clinton got impeached for sex and some have been impeached for being drunk. So he is saying so what if it is malicious prosecution against Donald Trump, Republicans maliciously prosecuted Bill Clinton. So Zippy implied that Bill Clinton was impeached on frivolous pretenses for the purpose of defamation. Yes Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury which is a serious crime. It just happened that it was over sex.

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    As the U.S. House of Representatives hurtles toward impeachment ahead of the holidays, it is appropriate to consider, in as dispassionate a way as possible, what really is at issue for the country to decide. One must begin with the words of the Constitution. The removal of the President from office necessarily proceeds only with a determination, through House impeachment and upon conviction by a two-thirds majority in the Senate following trial, that “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors” have been proved. What constitutes a “high” crime? Alexander Hamilton provided the answer in the Federalist papers: only those offenses within Congress’s appropriate jurisdiction that constitute “the abuse or violation of some public trust.”

    So while it is fashionable at the moment for some to argue that President Trump is removable from office simply if it is proved that he abused the power of his office during his July 25 call with Ukrainian President Zelensky, the Constitution requires more. To ignore the requirement of proving that a crime was committed is to sidestep the constitutional design as well as the lessons of history. A well-founded article of impeachment therefore must allege both that a crime has been committed and that such crime constitutes an abuse of the President’s office.
    The problem for those pushing impeachment is that there appears to be insufficient evidence to prove that Trump committed a crime. Half the country at present does seem prepared to conclude, on the basis of the summary of the Trump-Zelensky call released by the White House on Sept. 25, that Trump at least raised the prospect of an unlawful quid pro quo. The theory seems to be that Trump proposed an exchange of something of personal benefit to himself in return for an official act by the U.S. government. On one side of that alleged quid pro quo would be the public announcement of an investigation by Ukraine into a rival presidential candidate, former Vice President Joe Biden, and a member of Biden’s family. On the other: the release of temporarily withheld foreign aid, including military assistance.
    The problem with this legal theory is that an unlawful quid pro quo is limited to those arrangements that are “corrupt”–that is to say, only those that are clearly and unmistakably improper and therefore illegal. But in the eyes of the law, the specific, measurable benefit that an investigation against the Bidens might bring Trump is nebulous. There is a serious question as to whether it could ever constitute a criminally illegal foreign campaign contribution of personal benefit to President Trump. Indeed, the Office of Legal Counsel and the Criminal Division at the Justice Department apparently have already concluded it couldn’t. Just as important, the U.S. Supreme Court and lower federal courts have struggled since at least the early 1990s with application of the federal anticorruption laws to situations like this, where an “in kind” benefit in the form of campaign interference or assistance is alleged to be illegal.


    In my view, a fair and better legal argument can be made in this context that only an explicit, as opposed to an implied, quid pro quo would be sufficient to find criminal illegality as the result of President Trump’s words on the call with President Zelensky. What’s the difference? Instead of President Trump saying to his counterpart in Ukraine in words or substance, “Do me a favor …” he would have to have said, “Here’s the deal …” and followed up by explicitly linking an investigation of the Bidens to the provision of U.S. military assistance. None of that, of course, is what was said.
    Importantly, we have also learned in a little-noted aside to the widely reported Oct. 17 press conference by acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney that the Administration recognized that it had no authority through the Office of Management and Budget to permanently withhold congressional appropriation of aid to Ukraine beyond the 2019 fiscal year, which ended Sept. 30.
    Taken together, these facts mean that whatever your view of whether the President’s call was, in his words, “perfect” or not, the race to impeachment is moving forward on an arguably flawed legal theory of an implied quid pro quo of temporarily withholding foreign aid. It doesn’t help those arguing that the implied and temporary attempt at a quid quo pro necessitates impeachment that the aid was eventually released and disbursed on Sept. 11. Nor does it help them that Ukraine never publicly announced an investigation of the Bidens.
    An investigation into the origins of the probe into Russia’s 2016 election meddling, including any Ukrainian matters relating to it, is under way. It is being handled through appropriate channels and with built-in independence by a career prosecutor, John Durham, the U.S. Attorney in Connecticut, and presumably outside of political interference at Main Justice in Washington. If Durham finds actual evidence warranting investigation of the Bidens, that would be entirely appropriate, unless one is prepared to argue, speciously, that a presidential candidate enjoys absolute immunity from investigation during the course of a campaign. So things are finally in the right hands.

    At this point nothing appears to stand in the way of the House’s intemperate and unreasonable vote to impeach. In Hamilton’s words, events are proceeding “more by the comparative strength of parties than by the real demonstrations of innocence or guilt.” It will be left instead to the U.S. Senate sitting as a court of impeachment with the “requisite neutrality” and the nation’s best interests in mind to render judgment and put a stop to what is an undeniably, and all but exclusively, partisan effort to remove this President from office.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/shouldnt-impe...110621848.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Filing frivolous legal claims in order to harass and defame someone is malicious prosecution.

    https://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and...osecution.html
    You'd better read your linked material again. Even assuming an impeachment is the type of legal proceeding to which a claim of malicious prosecution can apply (an extremely dubious proposition), not all of the elements of an MP cause of action exist:

    1. The institution or continuation of a civil or criminal legal proceeding against the plaintiff;
    2. By, or abetted by, the defendant (the prosecutor or plaintiff in the malicious action);
    3. Termination of the prior proceeding in favor of the plaintiff (for instance, the case was dismissed);
    4. Absence of probable cause for instituting the prior proceeding;
    5. Malice as the primary purpose for the prior action; and
    6. Injury or damage to the plaintiff as a result of the prior action.
    No. 3 clearly doesn't exist, and even if it did it's doubtful that no. 4 does. No. 5 is iffy: yes, there are some in the House who hate Trump, but they would argue that their primary purpose in the proceeding was to remove him from office. Given the improbability of conviction in the Senate (absent the discovery of a smoking gun that even the GOP Senators couldn't stomach), a jury might not believe such a claim and conclude that the primary purpose was harassment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    You'd better read your linked material again. Even assuming an impeachment is the type of legal proceeding to which a claim of malicious prosecution can apply (an extremely dubious proposition), not all of the elements of an MP cause of action exist:



    No. 3 clearly doesn't exist, and even if it did it's doubtful that no. 4 does. No. 5 is iffy: yes, there are some in the House who hate Trump, but they would argue that their primary purpose in the proceeding was to remove him from office. Given the improbability of conviction in the Senate (absent the discovery of a smoking gun that even the GOP Senators couldn't stomach), a jury might not believe such a claim and conclude that the primary purpose was harassment.
    You an OJ juror? They have been trying to impeach him even before he got elected.

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Filing frivolous legal claims in order to harass and defame someone is malicious prosecution.

    https://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and...osecution.html

    There actually is a legal term for witch hunt.
    Congress is not the judicial branch.
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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    You an OJ juror? They have been trying to impeach him even before he got elected.
    Do you honestly think the Democrats thought Trump had a chance to be elected?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Congress is not the judicial branch.
    Impeachment is a judicial power and Congress is bound by all the same rules when they use it.
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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Impeachment is a judicial power and Congress is bound by all the same rules when they use it.
    Absolutely not. Try reading the constitution.


    Maybe even subject yourself to it in its entirety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Absolutely not. Try reading the constitution.


    Maybe even subject yourself to it in its entirety.
    Take your own advice.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Take your own advice.
    Go on and squirm.

    Which article is impeachment in, Wormtongue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Go on and squirm.

    Which article is impeachment in, Wormtongue?
    That's irrelevant, it is a judicial power assigned to Congress.

    And you need to be reminded again?

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    Stop insulting each other...
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