9 Mormon women and children shot and 'burned alive' in ambush near the US-Mexico border

[enhanced_deficit]

9 Mormon women and children were shot and 'burned alive' in an ambush near the US-Mexico border

By Gianluca Mezzofiore, Holly Yan and Madeline Holcombe, CNN
Updated 1:40 PM ET, Tue November 5, 2019

(CNN)Nine members of a Mormon community were killed on the Mexican side of the US-Mexico border, and authorities are investigating whether the attack was the result of mistaken identity.

The slain victims include three women, four small children and two infants, family member Alex LeBaron said from Mexico. He said all nine were dual US-Mexican citizens.
The victims were "all shot while in vehicles while driving," LeBaron told CNN. Several children survived the attack.
Investigators believe three vehicles traveling between the Mexican states of Sonora and Chihuahua were ambushed by criminal groups Monday evening, Mexican authorities said.

"Women and children were massacred, burned alive," LeBaron said. "Mothers were screaming for the fire to stop."
Mexican Security Minister Alfonso Durazo said the attack could have been a case of mistaken identity of "conflicting groups in the area."

'They were driving together for safety reasons'

In each of the three cars attacked, a mother was driving children to see family.
"They were driving together for safety reasons," said Kendra Lee Miller, whose sister-in-law Rhonita Maria Miller was killed in the attack.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/05/ameri...der/index.html

[jkr]

TIME TO CONQUER MEXICO AND I ANIT STOPPING TILL I GET TO PANAMA!
BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, TIME TO FINISH THE JOB

[donnay]

What a shame. These cartels are ruthless.

What is unfortunate, a lot of the Latter Day Saints are for open borders.

[Sammy]

This people are savages!

[dannno]

What is unfortunate, a lot of the Latter Day Saints are for open borders.

The cartels aren't, they would go out of business.

On the bad side, we would be ruled by the left.

[donnay]

The cartels aren't, they would go out of business.

On the bad side, we would be ruled by the left.

Nah, they would just continue doing what they are doing and there would be more "Chicago-like" murders all over the country.

The only thing that would kill their business is to stop the war on drugs the CIA started, of course that was to help them get black-bag money to circumvent congress and start illegal wars across the globe.

[Brian4Liberty]

...
What is unfortunate, a lot of the Latter Day Saints are for open borders.

Hidden agendas. Many religious groups are for open borders and migration. They are usually by definition globalists, and they think that if they sponsor and help people who migrate, they will get more “customers”. The Communist Pope is a prime example.

[donnay]

Hidden agendas. Many religious groups are for open borders and migration. They are usually by definition globalists, and they think that if they sponsor and help people who migrate, they will get more “customers”. The Communist Pope is a prime example.

Yes this much is true.

[Anti Globalist]

The people in these cartels are such monsters.

[Stratovarious]

CNN :facepalm:

1) It happened in MEXICO, that should be in the headline not; ' Happened Near the Border ' .

2) 'Could have been mistaken identity'; this is a stab at excusing the murderers
and softening the fact that they killed American women and children, in a very
disgustingly savage manor.

[eleganz]

This is the Mormon group that Romney is from, I'm sure there will be hell to pay.

There has been a cartel war/rivalry against the Mormons for probably decades because they don't bend the knee to the cartels. There is no way the cartel did not know these were Americans.

Horrible what happened, what kind of sick fk do you have to be to shoot multiple children and burn them? A Report states that family members claim the women were raped and then burned to cover it up.

Obviously military action against the cartels will not be effective. They're better armed and funded than islamic terrorists, more organized and financially incentivized.

Its sad because there is not really anything America can do but what, investigate? The cartels will throw a few senior level scapegoats and will this just all blowover?

[sparebulb]

This people are savages!

Yes they are.

Romney, Huntsman, and Dirty Harry Reid are definitely capable of committing a similar event.

Mountain Meadows Massacre

[Brian4Liberty]

CNN :facepalm:

1) It happened in MEXICO, that should be in the headline not; ' Happened Near the Border ' .
...

Fake News loves to spin, distort and imply what is not there. Mention the US-Mexican Border, and they can create an immigration-Trump association in people’s minds. This massacre is Trump’s fault.

[Brian4Liberty]

This is the Mormon group that Romney is from, I'm sure there will be hell to pay.

There has been a cartel war/rivalry against the Mormons for probably decades because they don't bend the knee to the cartels. There is no way the cartel did not know these were Americans.

Horrible what happened, what kind of sick fk do you have to be to shoot multiple children and burn them? A Report states that family members claim the women were raped and then burned to cover it up.

Obviously military action against the cartels will not be effective. They're better armed and funded than islamic terrorists, more organized and financially incentivized.

Its sad because there is not really anything America can do but what, investigate? The cartels will throw a few senior level scapegoats and will this just all blowover?

Tragic and sick. The perps need to be held accountable.

It would be terrible if this happened in the US. Imagine mobsters killing and burning some religious group that lived in a compound.

[Swordsmyth]

TIME TO CONQUER MEXICO AND I ANIT STOPPING TILL I GET TO PANAMA!
BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, TIME TO FINISH THE JOB

I'll settle for just militarizing the border.

[Swordsmyth]

Yes they are.

Romney, Huntsman, and Dirty Harry Reid are definitely capable of committing a similar event.

Mountain Meadows Massacre

Spare me.

There are rotten apples in every barrel and I'm sure I could dig up crimes by any religious denomination during religious wars throughout history.

The people you mention by name probably are capable of immense evil because they are evil but not because they are Mormons.

[Swordsmyth]

This is the Mormon group that Romney is from, I'm sure there will be hell to pay.

There has been a cartel war/rivalry against the Mormons for probably decades because they don't bend the knee to the cartels. There is no way the cartel did not know these were Americans.

Horrible what happened, what kind of sick fk do you have to be to shoot multiple children and burn them? A Report states that family members claim the women were raped and then burned to cover it up.

Obviously military action against the cartels will not be effective. They're better armed and funded than islamic terrorists, more organized and financially incentivized.

Its sad because there is not really anything America can do but what, investigate? The cartels will throw a few senior level scapegoats and will this just all blowover?

We need to militarize the border and let anyone stupid enough to stay in Mexico fend for themselves.

[Swordsmyth]

In the aftermath of a gruesome cartel massacre where gunmen killed nine women and children from a U.S. family and injured several others, Mexico’s president declined the help of U.S. military and security forces to go to “war” with cartels.

During his morning press conference, Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador (AMLO) said war is the worst way to deal with cartels and that those who have lived it, know it. The statement came in response to a series of tweets by President Donald Trump, stating that the U.S. was ready to go to “war” upon invitation.

More at: https://www.breitbart.com/border/201...ainst-cartels/

[tommyrp12]

Women killed in Mexican cartel murders had alleged ties to sex cult Nxivm

https://nypost.com/2019/11/05/women-...site%20buttons

The nine women and children slaughtered in Mexico on Monday were part of a Mormon community with ties to the alleged sex-cult Nxivm.

The outpost Mormon community in Mexico is where underlings of Nxivm leader Keith Raniere recruited young women to work as nannies in an upstate New York compound run by the accused cult — suggesting at least in part that the jobs would get the girls away from their home region’s drug violence, according a man hired by Raniere to produce a documentary about the group.

The three moms and six kids killed in Monday’s violence in the northern town of Sonora are believed to have been the victims of a drug cartel, which may have mistaken the group’s caravan of three SUVs for rivals, Mexican authorities said Tuesday.

The filmmaker working with Raniere at the time, Mark Vicente, told the online magazine Slate that the documentary ultimately became a recruiting video for Nxivm, which purported to be a self-help group but morphed into what the feds called a cult that sexually, physically and emotionally abused its mainly female followers.

The film included an interview with Julian LeBaron, who identified himself as the cousin of one of the moms killed Monday and who is a leader of the Mexico Mormon community. LeBaron’s brother was kidnapped by a local drug cartel in 2009, and the family defiantly refused to pay a ransom. The cartel eventually released the abducted man.

[Stratovarious]

In the aftermath of a gruesome cartel massacre where gunmen killed nine women and children from a U.S. family and injured several others, Mexico’s president declined the help of U.S. military and security forces to go to “war” with cartels.

During his morning press conference, Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador (AMLO) said war is the worst way to deal with cartels and that those who have lived it, know it. The statement came in response to a series of tweets by President Donald Trump, stating that the U.S. was ready to go to “war” upon invitation.

More at: https://www.breitbart.com/border/201...ainst-cartels/

m

I wonder what Manny's plan is ... and is this his condolence msg to the relatives of the slaughtered; ''the worst way
to deal with the Cartels is to punish/eradicate them...?''

I'm also a bit sick of liberals attempting to convince us that Mexico is safe (with charts) , for Christ's sake, in Mexico
you don't have the Natural right to defend yourself, the same is being pushed on us here in the US.

[Stratovarious]

Fake News loves to spin, distort and imply what is not there. Mention the US-Mexican Border, and they can create an immigration-Trump association in people’s minds. This massacre is Trump’s fault.

True.

[sparebulb]

Spare me.

There are rotten apples in every barrel and I'm sure I could dig up crimes by any religious denomination during religious wars throughout history.

The people you mention by name probably are capable of immense evil because they are evil but not because they are Mormons.

Relax

This is a man-bites-dog analogy.

[donnay]

Women killed in Mexican cartel murders had alleged ties to sex cult Nxivm

The nine women and children slaughtered in Mexico on Monday were part of a Mormon community with ties to the alleged sex-cult Nxivm.

The outpost Mormon community in Mexico is where underlings of Nxivm leader Keith Raniere recruited young women to work as nannies in an upstate New York compound run by the accused cult — suggesting at least in part that the jobs would get the girls away from their home region’s drug violence, according a man hired by Raniere to produce a documentary about the group.

The three moms and six kids killed in Monday’s violence in the northern town of Sonora are believed to have been the victims of a drug cartel, which may have mistaken the group’s caravan of three SUVs for rivals, Mexican authorities said Tuesday.

The filmmaker working with Raniere at the time, Mark Vicente, told the online magazine Slate that the documentary ultimately became a recruiting video for Nxivm, which purported to be a self-help group but morphed into what the feds called a cult that sexually, physically and emotionally abused its mainly female followers.

The film included an interview with Julian LeBaron, who identified himself as the cousin of one of the moms killed Monday and who is a leader of the Mexico Mormon community. LeBaron’s brother was kidnapped by a local drug cartel in 2009, and the family defiantly refused to pay a ransom. The cartel eventually released the abducted man.

https://nypost.com/2019/11/05/women-...ex-cult-nxivm/

[Brian4Liberty]

Women killed in Mexican cartel murders had alleged ties to sex cult Nxivm

https://nypost.com/2019/11/05/women-...site%20buttons

Who knows what kind of “ties” there actually are, but I’d wager that some of these “Morman” (or FLDS?) groups in Mexico are polygamists. Very possible that a girl escaped that and ended up in another cult. Not much of a tie, other than a fertile hunting ground for victims.

Who remembers when FLDS groups in the US were the outrage of the day?

[Swordsmyth]

https://nypost.com/2019/11/05/women-...ex-cult-nxivm/

Now it gets interesting.

Were they killed to keep them from talking?

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/05/trum...g-cartels.html

Just talking tough- he won't follow through on using the US military. He never follows up on military threats (something Iran and North Korea are fully aware of). Mexico turned down the offer anyways.

President Donald Trump on Tuesday said that the United States is willing to help Mexico “wage WAR on the drug cartels” in the country, following the deaths of at least nine Americans, including six children, who reportedly came under attack in a highway ambush in a Mexican border state Monday.

“If Mexico needs or requests help in cleaning out these monsters, the United States stands ready, willing & able to get involved and do the job quickly and effectively,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “The great new President of Mexico has made this a big issue, but the cartels have become so large and powerful that you sometimes need an army to defeat an army!”

“This is the time for Mexico, with the help of the United States, to wage WAR on the drug cartels and wipe them off the face of the earth. We merely await a call from your great new president!” Trump added.

Later Tuesday, the White House said that Trump offered “assistance” to Mexico in a conversation with the country’s president, Manuel Lopez Obrador.

“President Trump made clear that the United States condemns these senseless acts of violence that took the lives of nine American citizens” in the call, and offered help to “ensure the perpetrators face justice,” the White House said in a statement.

“The two leaders also discussed ongoing border cooperation and the strong bilateral ties between the United States and Mexico,” the White House added.

Lopez Obrador said he thanked Trump for his willingness to help, adding that the Mexican government would ensure justice was done, Reuters reported.

The White House did not respond to CNBC’s question about whether Trump’s tweet suggested he was willing to send U.S. troops to Mexico to confront drug cartels.

Mexican Security Minister Alfonso Durazo said that the U.S. citizens ambushed on a Sonora highway late Monday may have been confused with criminal groups fighting for control in that region.

Lopez Obrador has said he wants to crack down on drug-related violence in his country. But there was no immediate indication that Mexico would allow U.S. troops into the country to help with those efforts.

Asked Tuesday morning if Mexico would accept U.S. help on this security issue, Lopez Obrador said that he doesn’t believe his country will need foreign intervention to deal with such cases, Reuters reported.

Lopez Obrador did say that Mexico is willing to work with the FBI, provided its national sovereignty is upheld, according to Reuters.

[Origanalist]

So, you're criticizing him for not starting another war?

[Origanalist]

This $#@! would go way if we could just learn from history and end the war on drugs. The cartels would cease to exist.

[kcchiefs6465]

Zippy should be deported to Mexico to fight for freedom.

[Origanalist]

Zippy should be deported to Mexico to fight for freedom.

Can we have a vote on it?