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    Hillary Clinton leads Trump in a new Fox News poll

    Turns out HRC's out-of-nowhere attack on globalist Israeli neocon Adelson favored Tulsi Gabbard to end Tulssi's political career may not have been entirely accidental, HRC could be considering 2020 run and pre-emptively clearing potential 3rd party threats.



    Hillary Clinton leads Trump in a new Fox News poll. Yes, in November 2019.

    A Fox News poll released Sunday did not have great news for President Trump. His approval rating was 42 percent, with 57 percent of registered voters disapproving of his job performance and 46 percent strongly disapproving. A year before the 2020 election, he is behind all of the top-tier Democrats, including former Vice President Joe Biden (51 percent to 39 percent), Sen. Elizabeth Warren (46 percent to 41 percent), and Sen. Bernie Sanders (49 percent to 41 percent). Even worse, Trump is losing to Hillary Clinton, who isn't even running, 43 percent to 41 percent.

    Since Clinton is not running, it isn't clear why Fox News decided to ask voters to choose between her and Trump. The pollsters noted that the last time they included Clinton in a matchup against Trump was Nov. 3-6, 2016, during which period she was also leading Trump, 46 percent to 42 percent — and also actually running for president. Which, again, she isn't currently.
    The poll was conducted Oct. 27-30 under the joint direction of Beacon Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R).
    theweek.com/speedreads/876179/hillary-clinton-leads-trump-new-fox-news-poll-yes-november-2019






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    Oct 24, 2019
    Turns out Hillary Clinton said Republicans — not Russians — were grooming Tulsi Gabbard

    What a sad end to Tulsi's political career just days after she called MAGA Saudi's 'bit*h' and referred to him as a 'pimp' and soon after she was outed as secret pawn of Deep Zionism.
    Madam Hillary Clinton, what have you done.
    If 'Russians' was euphemism for 'Right Wing Jewish/Pro-Israel neoconservative donors' of Republicans-MAGA wing, she should say it or clarify if it was a Freudian slip or something else.

    Gabbard received an award from Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a New Jersey-based rabbi with close ties to casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson (the largest donor to the Republican Party). A year before Gabbard attended Boteach’s gala dinner and received his “Champion of Freedom” Award, Boteach published full-page ads in leading U.S. newspapers in which he accused Obama’s national security adviser, Susan Rice, of being responsible for the 1994 genocide in Rwanda.
    In 2015, she spoke at a conference of Christians United for Israel – an organization whose leader and founder, Pastor John Hagee, is a strong supporter of West Bank settlements.




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    These national polls are BOGUS!

    Here's a more informed picture:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eground-states

    You replied to the post ED so your aware that these battleground polls are more accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    These national polls are BOGUS!

    Here's a more informed picture:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eground-states

    You replied to the post ED so your aware that these battleground polls are more accurate.
    e_d pushes anything anti-Trump, even things he knows are blatant falsehoods.
    He pushed Hitlery's claim that she said Gabbard was a Republican asset even though everyone can hear for themselves that she said she was a Russian asset and plenty of people posted the proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    e_d pushes anything anti-Trump, even things he knows are blatant falsehoods.
    He pushed Hitlery's claim that she said Gabbard was a Republican asset even though everyone can hear for themselves that she said she was a Russian asset and plenty of people posted the proof.
    What about the polls that show Biden up 12% LOL

    These national polls are a joke.

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    Scam poll. All too much of Fox News wants Hillary Clinton since she is the best candidate to fulfill their Neocon big government warmongering agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    What about the polls that show Biden up 12% LOL

    These national polls are a joke.
    Almost all polls are a joke and since Trump they are almost all insane.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Almost all polls are a joke and since Trump they are almost all insane.
    But they do catch the eye. Even DrudgeReport.com runs them and gets excited by them. However RPF knows they're BS.

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    Maybe Clinton got wind that a real investigation into her crimes is going on... By our new rules, if that's the case, all she has to do is run for office and she can no longer be investigated.



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    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    Maybe Clinton got wind that a real investigation into her crimes is going on... By our new rules, if that's the case, all she has to do is run for office and she can no longer be investigated.
    I'm sure that has been her plan all along, she's just been waiting for the other candidates to beat eachother up.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    More fake polls being pushed by fake news and trolls

    Here is a much more interesting article:

    The Number of Democrats Showing Up at Trump Rallies Is Stunning

    https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-v...lies-stunning/

    “Of the 16,432 voters who provided data, 27% were Democrats. “

    “ The data also showed that 20% were black.”

    There is a LANDSLIDE that will happen.
    Last edited by TER; 11-04-2019 at 09:30 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm sure that has been her plan all along, she's just been waiting for the other candidates to beat eachother up.
    That's been Biden's strategy too. Keeps quiet says a lot of nothing and waits for less funded candidates to drop out. Biden will move more aggressively soon. Which means he's going to be his worse enemy and gaffe himself out of the running.
    Where is John Galt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    These national polls are BOGUS!
    That is a good possibility and even likely in many cases. It has been said so many times that almost goes without saying it everytime, forgot to add this under Related.

    Big sink: Troubling Fox News poll shows 2020 loss

    Nototorious neocon outlet Foxnews , that has pushed lot of fakewnews in the past, is at it again and now showing MAGA losing to Biden, Sanders and even Liz warren.







    There are have been persistent rumors about globalist neocons/money bagger lobbies etc not only buying/puppet mastering politicians but pollsters, media owners, RINOs, DINOs etc too. It's not just about Foxnews or GOPA wing although it's credibility is shaky being home of notoriors fakenews neocons mouthpieces like Hannity, Marke Levin etc.




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    Oct 12, 2019

  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post

    The Number of Democrats Showing Up at Trump Rallies Is Stunning

    https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-v...lies-stunning/

    “Of the 16,432 voters who provided data, 27% were Democrats. “

    “ The data also showed that 20% were black.”

    There is a LANDSLIDE that will happen.
    This is credible, Trump used to be a democrat, his top donors used to fund democrats and he's seen as RINOs by many conservative Republicans.

    Early on fakenews media had created bogus 'Trump is racist' narrative ahead of 2016 (part of it could be due to Trump's role in birtherism movement) that may have put off many liberals/Dems. But once fog settled, now even lib media is forced to accept that Trump is probably the most pro-diversity/pro-racial integeration President since his hero Abe Lincoln. His strong leadership on gun coltrol, universal heathcare, LGBTQ rights/gay marriage, globals campaigns against anti-Semitism/against ciminalization of homosexulity, harsh Iran sanctions, pro Netanyahu/Israel policies should win him a very large chunk of liberal progressive Dem vote. Hopefully these are anti-war Dems and not so called bluedog neocon Dems.
    At the same time he's alienating/losing some purist conservative Republicans/Tea Party/Christian conservatives type folks, time will tell where things settle once we have some independent poll.

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    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    This is credible, Trump used to be a democrat, his top donors used to fund democrats and he's seen as RINOs by many conservative Republicans.

    Early on fakenews media had created bogus 'Trump is racist' narrative ahead of 2016 (part of it could be due to Trump's role in birtherism movement) that may have put off many liberals/Dems. But once fog settled, now even lib media is forced to accept that Trump is probably the most pro-diversity/pro-racial integeration President since his hero Abe Lincoln. His strong leadership on gun coltrol, universal heathcare, LGBTQ rights/gay marriage, globals campaigns against anti-Semitism/against ciminalization of homosexulity, harsh Iran sanctions, pro Netanyahu/Israel policies should win him a very large chunk of liberal progressive Dem vote. Hopefully these are anti-war Dems and not so called bluedog neocon Dems.
    At the same time he's alienating/losing some purist conservative Republicans/Tea Party/Christian conservatives type folks, time will tell where things settle once we have some independent poll.
    and you remain a troll

    And please don’t speak for conservative or Christian or even American voters. I don’t believe you to be any of those things, but rather someone paid to cause division. Pathetic.

    And if Rand Paul was President, you would be doing the same things you are doing now. Sowing division like a snake in a garden
    Last edited by TER; 11-04-2019 at 10:37 PM.
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    Might be emotionality of the leader that attracts supporters with similar temprament.
    Not sure how to respond to a non-sensical remark from someone who quotes Jesus, I'll stick to talking about the topics related to this discussion.



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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Not sure who to respond to a non-sensical remark from someone who quotes Jesus, I'll stick to talking about the topics related to this discussion.
    Might be emotionality of the leader that attracts supporters with similar temprament.
    I don’t hide who I am or what I believe, or like a snake try to deceive my intent or why I am here. Duplicity is antiChristian.

    I am a poor Christian, I confess, but I don’t seek to try to sow division through lies. Especially not for money.

    You judge my temperament? And what of yours? Who is the father of lies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Scam poll. All too much of Fox News wants Hillary Clinton since she is the best candidate to fulfill their Neocon big government warmongering agenda.

    Foxnews owner had organized or attended Hillary fundraiser if I'm not mistaken.





    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    Entertainment and circuses importannce in politics should not be underestimated, GOPA wing leadership with its Reality TV Star background realized that early on.

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    and you remain a troll

    And please don’t speak for conservative or Christian or even American voters. I don’t believe you to be any of those things, but rather someone paid to cause division. Pathetic.

    And if Rand Paul was President, you would be doing the same things you are doing now. Sowing division like a snake in a garden
    You must spread some reputation around..................
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    No one cares what these MSM polls say. They said last election Hillary was going to beat Trump.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    People that continue to push the propaganda hope no one ever watches Trump Rallies.

    I heard a good rumor the other day saying that Trump Rallies are paid actors. ROFLMAO. Wow, that would be an expensive gig.
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    Was hoping someone would pick up on this, bit surprised that so far mostly headline was focussed on.

    Since Clinton is not running, it isn't clear why Fox News decided to ask voters to choose between her and Trump.
    On a forum like this where most folks tend be well informed, it is already understood that most polls are manipulated. Polling data can and should be discussed as this is what is served to public by mass media but real story here is why this poll is being pushed at this stage. It is also mildly interesting is that this Poll is conducted by a media outlet notorious for pushing fakenews over the years and hosting some of the biggest Iraq, Iran wars lobbies/deep neocons pimps.

    Short commentary was posted with the news, HRC could be considering 2020 run.

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    How many times do I have to remind you that polls are tools of the news media to shape public opinion? Stop looking at them, and stop talking about them. It looks as if you buy into everything the MSM wants you to believe.
    “When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it”~~ Frederic Bastiat

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    How many times do I have to remind you that polls are tools of the news media to shape public opinion? Stop looking at them, and stop talking about them. It looks as if you buy into everything the MSM wants you to believe.
    Agree for the most part but public-views-shaping media tools cannot be always just ignored.

    On a forum like this where most folks tend be well informed, it is already understood that most polls are manipulated. Polling data can and should be discussed as this is what is served to public by mass media but real story here is why this poll is being pushed at this stage. It is also mildly interesting is that this Poll is conducted by a media outlet notorious for pushing fakenews over the years and hosting some of the biggest Iraq, Iran wars lobbies/deep neocons pimps.

    Short commentary was posted with the news, HRC could be considering 2020 run.



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    She's leading him but she's doing way worse than the leading Democratic candidates, which probably will further encourage the Democrats to not see her as the answer.
    Trump hates liberty.

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    She's leading him but she's doing way worse than the leading Democratic candidates, which probably will further encourage the Democrats to not see her as the answer.
    This could be trial baloon with wait and see approach to see how Biden performs.
    Pretty flawed candidate overall but as a former Republican and to the right of Trump on various issues, she might not be as easy to beat in 2020 by a weakened former Democrat Trump who seems to have aliernated part of Right wing Reoublicans. Depends on damage done by a looming impeachment trial too.



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