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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    Even Scott Horton has publicly admitted to being "very disappointed" in Hornberger now.
    Who?

    Oh, the guy that took over antiwar after the founder died recently, who is married to a russian born rawstory.com editor with long SJW history?

    If you haven't learned by now that EVERY influential media (MSM and alternative) is quickly co-opted whenever possible, you're still behind the curve. Stop following personalities! It's strange that Horton would have a problem with Hornberger's position on immigration yet is married to a NYC SJW. If you don't support immigration that's fine but for the love of the creator, please stop pushing media mouthpieces as the justification for your position.

    Hornberger bends the knee to our globalist enemies by cheering the active importation of the world's worst people into our welfare-warfare state.
    Damn those globalist enemies. We must vote for Donald again to prevent things like USMCA from being signed into law, right?

    Here's a clue. An "illegal immigrant" has more Constitutional rights than you do, "citizen".

    (Some of y'all are so mentally confused in your political positions that I'm surprised the cognitive dissonance isn't physically painful.)
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post


    Jacob Hornberger has decided to pander to illegal aliens.
    It's really sad since his fantastic on issues like Foreign Policy,Government spending & Guns!
    Newsflash: Illegal immigrants have more Constitutional rights than you do. Now ask yourself why some would want you to hate them?
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Who?

    Oh, the guy that took over antiwar after the founder died recently, who is married to a russian born rawstory.com editor with long SJW history?

    If you haven't learned by now that EVERY influential media (MSM and alternative) is quickly co-opted whenever possible, you're still behind the curve. Stop following personalities! It's strange that Horton would have a problem with Hornberger's position on immigration yet is married to a NYC SJW. If you don't support immigration that's fine but for the love of the creator, please stop pushing media mouthpieces as the justification for your position.



    Damn those globalist enemies. We must vote for Donald again to prevent things like USMCA from being signed into law, right?

    Here's a clue. An "illegal immigrant" has more Constitutional rights than you do, "citizen".

    (Some of y'all are so mentally confused in your political positions that I'm surprised the cognitive dissonance isn't physically painful.)

    1,000 +REP's
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

  5. #64



    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Newsflash: Illegal immigrants have more Constitutional rights than you do. Now ask yourself why some would want you to hate them?

    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Newsflash: Illegal immigrants have more Constitutional rights than you do. Now ask yourself why some would want you to hate them?
    Promoting open Borders is popular with Globalists,Neocons & the socialist left.
    You just sided with Ilhan Omar,Ocasio Cortez & Bill Kristol!Congratulations!

  8. #66
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    (Some of y'all are so mentally confused in your political positions that I'm surprised the cognitive dissonance isn't physically painful.)[/QUOTE]

    I could say the same thing about Open Borders supporters.

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    Promoting open Borders is popular with Globalists,Neocons & the socialist left.
    You just sided with Ilhan Omar,Ocasio Cortez & Bill Kristol!Congratulations!
    No. The simple fact is, todays republicans/conservatives or whatever they pretend to call themselves these days, are yesterdays nationalist-commie bastards. They have been so brainwashed by the Statists and Common Core that anything pertaining to freedom, liberty, private property and private contracts rights, and the right to freely travel, is somehow equated to associate with Globalists, Ilhan Omar, Ocasio Cortez & Bill Kristol.

    It is to the point and so pathetic that any mention of ending welfare/incentives is off limits, or repeatedly told that it is not "realistic". So, we who believe in freedom and liberty are shunned like Ron Paul was in 2012 when the newz began repeating over and over "where did Ron Paul go?", when he was drawing supporters into the thousands at each and every rally.

    That is where we are today, and the precise reason why the biotech/pharmaceutical/police state apparatus are full steam ahead.

    But, somebody has to "win". Right?
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    No. The simple fact is, todays republicans/conservatives or whatever they pretend to call themselves these days, are yesterdays nationalist-commie bastards. They have been so brainwashed by the Statists and Common Core that anything pertaining to freedom, liberty, private property and private contracts rights, and the right to freely travel, is somehow equated to associate with Globalists, Ilhan Omar, Ocasio Cortez & Bill Kristol.

    It is to the point and so pathetic that any mention of ending welfare/incentives is off limits, or repeatedly told that it is not "realistic". So, we who believe in freedom and liberty are shunned like Ron Paul was in 2012 when the newz began repeating over and over "where did Ron Paul go?", when he was drawing supporters into the thousands at each and every rally.

    That is where we are today, and the precise reason why the biotech/pharmaceutical/police state apparatus are full steam ahead.

    But, somebody has to "win". Right?
    Most Republicans are crypto Socialists they are not Conservatives & they are not Nationalists they are Globalists!
    Open Borders is trespassing. I have no right to go your house & demand something from you.
    About 3-5% of Americans support ending the welfare state (I'm one of them) but this is not realistic since we have a mob rule democracy.
    Do you agree with me that we should abolish Democracy?

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    Most Republicans are crypto Socialists they are not Conservatives & they are not Nationalists they are Globalists!
    Names, labels... I stand on principles; NAP, 10 Bill of Rights, 10 Commandments.

    Open Borders is trespassing. I have no right to go your house & demand something from you.
    Typical of the Common Core student, and current nationalist-communist trends. I believe you are confusing privately owned land (whether home-owner or business-owner), with unowned land, which could be homesteaded. Open borders is not trespassing, unless the property is privately owned. I should have the right to freely migrate and find unowned, unused land and homestead it, whether I wish to build a house, farm or business.

    About 3-5% of Americans support ending the welfare state (I'm one of them) but this is not realistic since we have a mob rule democracy.
    "Not realistic". That seems to be the popular rhetoric as we move to a full-blown nationalistic police state. And it is working quite effectively.

    Do you agree with me that we should abolish Democracy?
    Democracy is rule by mob, where the rights of the 49% are dictated by the 51%.


    1. Do you believe Natural Rights (which are outlined in the Bill of Rights) apply only to Americans?

    2. Do you believe that Contract Rights should be abolished, and minimum wage should be determined and mandated by the government?

    3. Do you believe your Private Property should be reallocated, by government/democracy, for the "betterment of the whole"?

    4. Do you believe that you should pay your hard-earned money for somebody else's problem whether on the other side of the state or country?

    5. Do you believe that everybody should be documented to distinguish them from you, stored in government databases, and required to show your papers in the interest of "national security"? In other words, do you believe the 4th Amendment is outdated and should be abolished?

    6. Do you believe that you should pay welfare/incentives to those who become "legal" and "documented" by the government?
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    Promoting open Borders is popular with Globalists,Neocons & the socialist left.
    You just sided with Ilhan Omar,Ocasio Cortez & Bill Kristol!Congratulations!
    That's weird because I've never heard of any of them talking about Constitutional rights and the difference between an "alien" and a "citizen" in the legal system. Btw, that whole "ur a libtard!1!!1" stuff doesn't work on me. Save that grade school peer pressure stuff for the Breitbart crowd.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Who?

    Oh, the guy that took over antiwar after the founder died recently, who is married to a russian born rawstory.com editor with long SJW history?

    If you haven't learned by now that EVERY influential media (MSM and alternative) is quickly co-opted whenever possible, you're still behind the curve. Stop following personalities! It's strange that Horton would have a problem with Hornberger's position on immigration yet is married to a NYC SJW. If you don't support immigration that's fine but for the love of the creator, please stop pushing media mouthpieces as the justification for your position.



    Damn those globalist enemies. We must vote for Donald again to prevent things like USMCA from being signed into law, right?

    Here's a clue. An "illegal immigrant" has more Constitutional rights than you do, "citizen".

    (Some of y'all are so mentally confused in your political positions that I'm surprised the cognitive dissonance isn't physically painful.)
    You must feel very clever. But you are not. Identified.

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    No. The simple fact is, todays republicans/conservatives or whatever they pretend to call themselves these days, are yesterdays nationalist-commie bastards. They have been so brainwashed by the Statists and Common Core that anything pertaining to freedom, liberty, private property and private contracts rights, and the right to freely travel, is somehow equated to associate with Globalists, Ilhan Omar, Ocasio Cortez & Bill Kristol.

    It is to the point and so pathetic that any mention of ending welfare/incentives is off limits, or repeatedly told that it is not "realistic". So, we who believe in freedom and liberty are shunned like Ron Paul was in 2012 when the newz began repeating over and over "where did Ron Paul go?", when he was drawing supporters into the thousands at each and every rally.

    That is where we are today, and the precise reason why the biotech/pharmaceutical/police state apparatus are full steam ahead.

    But, somebody has to "win". Right?
    You know PAF, this post really impressed me. Your critical thinking skills are top notch. Some people tend to be lazy or are just not capable of assembling enough brain cells and as a result, they follow their tribe. Critical thinking on this site is becoming scarce.
    ClydeCoulter on the Liberty Movement:
    Yeah, they'll argue over roads and religion, but there are certain themes that bind, among those are freedom and the search for truth and justice.



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    You must feel very clever. But you are not. Identified.
    Oh noes! Identified? What ever shall I do?!?!

    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Cap View Post
    You know PAF, this post really impressed me. Your critical thinking skills are top notch. Some people tend to be lazy or are just not capable of assembling enough brain cells and as a result, they follow their tribe. Critical thinking on this site is becoming scarce.
    Someone who unironically uses the phrase "nationalist-commie bastard" has either NO KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY, or is SHILLING.

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    Someone who unironically uses the phrase "nationalist-commie bastard" has either NO KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY, or is SHILLING.
    LOL
    ClydeCoulter on the Liberty Movement:
    Yeah, they'll argue over roads and religion, but there are certain themes that bind, among those are freedom and the search for truth and justice.

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