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    Lightbulb Pub Signs - The Original 'Star Spangled Banners'

    Pub Signs – the Original ‘Star Spangled Banners’

    Star Inn Alfriston by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    The Star Inn – Alfriston. Originally a religious hostel built in 1345 and used to accommodate monks and pilgrims en route from Battle Abbey to the shrine of St Richard, patron saint of Sussex, at Chichester Cathedral, it became an inn in the 16th century.

    Ye-Olde-Starre-Inne by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Ye Olde Starre Inne – York’s Oldest Licensed Inn 1644

    SevenStars London AD1602 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    The Seven Stars (AD 1602) is a small London pub located to the rear of the Royal Courts of Justice

    seven-stars-dartmouth by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    The Seven Stars – Dartmouth’s Oldest Pub

    The Seven Stars Inn, Robertsbridge, East Sussex - a 14th-century public house.

    Oldswinford-Seven-Stars by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    plough by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Seven Stars 02 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Bear 3 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    The Seven Stars – a reference to the Ursa Major (Great Bear) star constellation alternatively known as ‘The Plough’.


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    Most ENGLISH people are unaware of the connections between OLD PUB SIGNS, the STARS and the SIGNS OF THE ZODIAC.

    Pub Signs Collage v0.1 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Red Lion – Leo
    Bull’s Head – Taurus
    Golden Fleece – Aries
    The Goat Inn – Capricorn
    The Bear, The Plough – Ursa Major
    The Golden Swan – Cygnus
    The Green Dragon – Draco
    The Greyhound – Canis Major
    Fox and Goose – Vulpecula and Anser
    The Punchbowl – Crater
    The Angel – Virgo
    The Ship – Argo Navis
    Robin Hood – Sagittarius (the Archer)
    Eagle and Child – Aquila and Antinous

    Urania’s Mirror Star Signs (published 1824)

    Uranias Mirror Collage v0.1 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr


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    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

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    It's all about Freedom

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    Sault Ste. Marie Mi.

    The Merch.. (drank there at 16)

    Before the fire..



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    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Most ENGLISH people are unaware of the connections between OLD PUB SIGNS, the STARS and the SIGNS OF THE ZODIAC.

    But let’s not forget the US FLAG and NATIONAL ANTHEM………

    US-Flag-History by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    The NATIONAL ANTHEM of the US, the “STAR SPANGLED BANNER”, was written to the tune of a BRITISH DRINKING SONG (‘TO ANACREON IN HEAVEN’), and originated in LONDON, ENGLAND in the 18th Century.

    Stars-and-stripes-Anthem-cropped by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    The ANACREONTIC SOCIETY was a popular ‘GENTLEMEN’S CLUB‘ in London, England founded in the mid-18th century.

    Reduced Anacreonticks_in_full_song_by_James_Gillray by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    ‘THE US STAR SPANGLED BANNER’ written to the music of ‘ANACREON IN HEAVEN’ – a song promoting DRINKING and SEX (a tribute to the Myrtle of Venus and the Roman God, Bacchus of Wine………..

    Anacreontic Society Meeting by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Pub signs, star spangled banners and drinking songs - perhaps a happy co-incidence…..

    https://www.latimes.com/nation/natio...912-story.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jul/04/star-spangled-banner-national-anthem-british-origins

    http://pubastrology.com/us-star-spangled-banners/

    Last edited by Prince Arthur; 11-02-2019 at 03:14 AM. Reason: typo

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    Lightbulb Eagle and Child - Aquila and Antinous Star Constellation

    Eagle and Child - ‘Aquila and Antinous’

    heweliusz-aql-scutum-del-sobiescian by Prince Arthur, on Flickr


    The Star Constellation was named by Roman Emperor Hadrian in 132AD to commemorate the loss of the love of his life – Antinous his boyfriend.

    eagle_and_child by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Two pubs in Oxford and Cambridge with strong connections….

    i) The Eagle and Child in St Giles' Street, Oxford is owned by St. John's College, Oxford and before that University College since the 17th century. The pub had been part of an endowment belonging to University College since the 17th century. It has associations with the Inklings writers' group which included J. R. R. Tolkien and C. S. Lewis.

    ii) The Eagle, Cambridge. Originally opened in 1667 as the "Eagle and Child". The site is owned by Corpus Christi College.


    Aquila (Latin for Eagle and symbolic of Hadrian) and Antinous his boyfriend.

    Antinous (pronounced ‘anti-no-us’) was the boy lover of the Roman Emperor Hadrian and hence is a real character, not a mythological one, although the story reads like fiction. Antinous was born c. AD 110 in the town of Bythinium (also called Claudiopolis), near present-day Bolu in north-western Turkey. At that time this area was a Roman province, and Hadrian is thought to have met Antinous during an official visit. Hadrian, the first openly gay Roman Emperor, was smitten by the boy and groomed him to become his constant companion.

    Hadrian’s happiness did not last long, though. While on a trip up the Nile in AD 130, Antinous drowned near the present-day town of Mallawi in Egypt. Supposedly an oracle had predicted that the Emperor would be saved from danger by the sacrifice of the object he most loved, and Antinous realized that this description applied to him.

    Whether the drowning was accident, suicide, or even ritual sacrifice, Hadrian was heartbroken by it. He founded a city called Antinoöpolis near the site of the drowning, declared Antinous a god, and commemorated him in the sky from stars south of Aquila, the Eagle, that had not previously been considered part of any constellation.

    Ref: http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/antinous.htm

    As of 2005 there were 25 pubs in the UK named the ‘Eagle and Child’


    The constellation’s first known depiction was in 1536 on a celestial globe by the German mathematician and cartographer Caspar Vopel (1511–61); it was shown again in 1551 on a globe by Gerardus Mercator. Tycho Brahe listed it as a separate constellation in his star catalogue of 1602 and it remained widely accepted into the 19th century, when it was eventually remerged with Aquila.

    The Earls of Derby (the Stanleys) dating from the 15th Century adopted the ‘Eagle and Child’ on their Coats of Arms.

    Stanley Coat of Arms Stanley Palace Chester by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Stanley Coat of Arms Detail Stanley Palace Chester by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    A more recent North-American connection with the Stars…..

    The Stanley Cup – National Hockey League Championship Trophy
    Commissioned in 1892 by Lord Stanley of Preston (Governor General of Canada)

    Stanley Cup v1 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Stanley Cup 1893 Stanley Coat of Arms by Prince Arthur, on Flickr


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    Exclamation Ye Olde Dolphin Inne AD 1530 - Derby's Oldest Pub

    The Dolphin – Star Constellation Delphinus (Latin for Dolphin)

    hevel-delphin-eqvuleus-sagitta-antinous by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    17th Century Delphinus Star Chart by Johannes Hevelius (1611 – 1687)

    Delphinus was one of the 48 constellations listed by the 2nd century astronomer Ptolemy, and it remains among the 88 modern constellations recognized by the International Astronomical Union. It is one of the smaller constellations, ranked 69th in size.

    Ye Olde Dolphin Inne AD 1530 – Derby’s Oldest Pub

    dolphin derby 2 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Derby – not really a coastal city so why name a pub after a Dolphin?

    Derby to Skegness 97 miles by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Skegness - Miles from Derby: 97

    Colwyn Bay - Miles from Derby: 113.

    Scarborough - Miles from Derby: 118.

    Blackpool - Miles from Derby: 120.


    The Earls of Derby (the Stanleys) dating from the 15th Century adopted the ‘Eagle and Child’ on their Coats of Arms.

    On closer examination of the star charts, what’s the next best thing to Aquila and Antinous (the Eagle and Child)?

    Dolphin Montage by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

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    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom



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    Exclamation Pub Signs, Aquarius and the Ancient Celestial Glyphs

    Star Sign Aquarius

    Sidney_Hall_-_Urania's_Mirror_-_Aquarius,_Piscis_Australis_&_Ballon_Aerostati que by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Aquarius - Urania’s Mirror by Sidney Hall (published 1824)


    Aqarius Pub Signs….

    Fountain 2 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr


    Fountain 4 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Ancient Glyphs representing the Signs of the Zodiac and other celestial bodies.

    Ancient Glyphs by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

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    Lightbulb Star Sign Pegasus - The Flying Horse

    Star Sign Pegasus - The Flying Horse


    Johannes Hevelius Star Chart of Pegasus – published 1690


    hevel-pegasus by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    flying_horse by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

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    Lightbulb Pub Signs - the Original Star Spangled Banners

    The Green Dragon - Draco Star Constellation

    Dragon 1 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Dragon 2 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

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    Lightbulb The Greyhound – Canis Major




    Greyhound 2 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Greyhound 3 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr


    Canis Major next to star constellation Lepus - the Hare (Hair) of the Dog

    Typical alcohol related word-play humour in line with the Star Spangled Banner theme by the Architects….

    https://pubastrology.files.wordpress...oney-ver-6.pdf

    (Download link to 70 MB PDF e-book. The Spirit World – Pub Astrology)

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    Lightbulb Hare and Hounds - Canes Venatici and Coma Berenices Star Constellations

    Hare and Hounds - Canes Venatici and Coma Berenices Star Constellations



    hare_and_hounds by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Bootes Canes Venatici Coma Berenices and Quadrans Muralis by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Canes Vanatici and Coma Berenices as depicted by Sidney Hall in Urania’s Mirror (published 1824)

    (The Hair and Hounds – more alcohol related word-play humour in line with the Star Spangled Banner theme by the Architects….)

    Canes Venatici is one of the 88 official modern constellations. It is a small northern constellation that was created by Johannes Hevelius in the 17th century. Its name is Latin for "hunting dogs", and the constellation is often depicted in illustrations as representing the dogs of Boötes the Herdsman, a neighbouring constellation.

    Coma Berenices has been recognized as an asterism since the Hellenistic period (much earlier, according to some authors), and is the only modern constellation named for an historic figure. It was introduced to Western astronomy during the third century BC by Conon of Samos, the court astronomer of Egyptian ruler Ptolemy III Euergetes, to honour Ptolemy's consort, Berenice II. Berenice vowed to sacrifice her long hair as a votive offering if Ptolemy returned safely from battle during the Third Syrian War. Modern scholars are uncertain if Berenice made the sacrifice before or after Ptolemy's return; it was suggested that it happened after Ptolemy's return (around March–June or May 245 BC), when Conon presented the asterism jointly with scholar and poet Callimachus during a public evening ceremony. In Callimachus' poem, Aetia (composed around that time), Berenice dedicated her tresses "to all the gods". In the Latin translation of the poem by the Roman poet Catullus and in Hyginus' De astronomica, she dedicated her tresses to Aphrodite and placed them in the temple of Arsinoe II (identified after Berenice's death with Aphrodite) at Zephyrium. According to De astronomica, by the next morning the tresses had disappeared. Conon proposed that Aphrodite had placed the tresses in the sky as an acknowledgement of Berenice's sacrifice. Callimachus called the asterism plokamos Berenikēs or bostrukhon Berenikēs in Greek, translated into Latin as "Coma Berenices" by Catullus. Eratosthenes (3rd century BC) called it "Berenice's Hair" and "Ariadne's Hair", considering it part of the constellation Leo.

    (The Hair and Hounds – more alcohol related word-play humour in line with the Star Spangled Banner theme by the Architects….)

    Coma Berenices became popular during the 16th century. In 1515, a set of gores by Johannes Schöner labelled the asterism "Trica" (hair). In 1536 it appeared on a celestial globe by Caspar Vopel, who is credited with the asterism's designation as a constellation. That year, it also appeared on a celestial map by Petrus Apianus as "Crines Berenices". In 1551, Coma Berenices appeared on a celestial globe by Gerardus Mercator with five Latin and Greek names: Cincinnus, caesaries, πλόκαμος, Berenicis crinis and Trica. Mercator's reputation as a cartographer ensured the constellation's inclusion on Dutch sky globes beginning in 1589.

    Tycho Brahe, also credited with Coma's designation as a constellation, included it in his 1602 star catalogue. Brahe recorded fourteen stars in the constellation; Johannes Hevelius increased its number to twenty-one, and John Flamsteed to forty-three. Coma Berenices also appeared in Johann Bayer's 1603 Uranometria, and a few other 17th-century celestial maps followed suit. Coma Berenices and the now-obsolete Antinous are considered the first post-Ptolemaic constellations depicted on a celestial globe. With Antinous, Coma Berenices exemplified a trend in astronomy in which globe- and map-makers continued to rely on the ancients for data. This trend ended at the turn of the 16th century with observations of the southern sky and the work of Tycho Brahe.

    Before the 18th century Coma Berenices was known in English by several names, including "Berenice's Bush" and "Berenice's periwig".[14] The earliest known English name, "Berenices haire", dates to 1601. By 1702 the constellation was known as Coma Berenices, and appears as such in the 1731 Universal Etymological English Dictionary.

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    Lightbulb Killing Two Birds with One Stone….

    Fox and Goose 2 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr


    Star Sign - ‘Cygnus’. Pub Sign - The (White / Black / Golden) Swan

    Star Sign - ‘Vulpecula and Anser’. Pub Sign - The Fox and Goose

    As depicted by Sidney Hall in Urania’s Mirror published 1824




    Swan 1 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Swan 2 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Fox and goose 1 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr



    Pub Signs – the Original ‘Star Spangled Banners’

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    Urania’s Mirror Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urania%27s_Mirror

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    I don’t think pub signs are much of a tradition in the Netherlands...

    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter
    Mithras was accompanied by a snake, a.k.a. serpent, a.k.a. dragon.
    The bull slaying scene that is mostly associated with Mithras is really in reference to astrology/astronomy, where the snake represents the Hydra constellation.
    (…)
    The bull slaying tale represents the constellation Persus (Mithras), Taurus (Bull), Canis Minor (dog), Hydra (snake), Corvus (raven), Scorpio (scorpio). The wheat is the star Spica (the brightest star in Virgo) and the blood is the Milky Way.
    At the spring equinox Mithras moves the earth back into Aries, raising energy and power.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6734241

    See the pub sign for the Bull tavern.


    See the pub sign for the Happy Dog tavern.


    See the pub sign for the Raven Inn, Poulshot, Wiltshire


    The George & Dragon Inn, Potterne, Wiltshire (no pub sign but above the menu board).


    More pub signs here: https://1pumplane.wordpress.com/cate...cross-britain/
    Do NOT ever read my posts.
    Google and Yahoo wouldn’t block them without a very good reason: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...he-world/page3

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    Roman Temple of Mithras (Londinium) and Bacchus, the Roman God of Wine

    FireStarter - I can see where you are going with the Mithras connection.

    Bull-slaying by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Relief recovered from the Roman Temple of Mithras c 3rd Century AD. (Roman London).

    The twelve signs of the Zodiac surround the depiction of Mithras slaying the Bull.

    The marble relief of Mithras in the act of killing the astral bull, the Tauroctony that was as central to Mithraism as the Crucifixion is to Christianity. On it, Mithras is accompanied by the two small figures of the torch-bearing celestial twins of Light and Darkness, Cautes and Cautopates, within the cosmic annual wheel of the Zodiac. At the top left, outside the wheel, Sol-Helios (Sun) ascends the heavens in his biga; at top right Luna (Moon) descends in her chariot. The heads of two wind-gods, Boreas and Zephyros, are in the bottom corners.

    https://www.londonmithraeum.com/about/

    And let’s not forget Bacchus, the Roman God of Wine……

    Bacchus by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Bacchus by Peter Paul Rubens (1577 to 1640)


    Prince Alfred Bacchus 1854 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

    Prince Alfred, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (1844 - 1900) dressed as Bacchus, the Roman god of wine, during amateur theatricals at Buckingham Palace, London, 1854.

    Prince Alfred (KG #736) was appointed a Knight of the Garter in 1863.

    Alfred, the fourth child of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert, was created Duke of Edinburgh in 1866, becoming Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha in 1893 on the death of his uncle Ernest II.

    Bacchus 1968 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr


    Beer and Wine - Social Control dating back to the Greeks and Romans.



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