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    Turns out Hillary Clinton said Republicans — not Russians — were grooming Tulsi Gabbard

    What a sad end to Tulsi's political career just days after she called MAGA Saudi's 'bit*h' and referred to him as a 'pimp' and soon after she was outed as secret pawn of Deep Zionism.

    Madam Hillary Clinton, what have you done.

    If 'Russians' was euphemism for 'Right Wing Jewish/Pro-Israel neoconservative donors' of Republicans-MAGA wing, she should say it or clarify if it was a Freudian slip or something else.



    Gabbard received an award from Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a New Jersey-based rabbi with close ties to casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson (the largest donor to the Republican Party). A year before Gabbard attended Boteach’s gala dinner and received his “Champion of Freedom” Award, Boteach published full-page ads in leading U.S. newspapers in which he accused Obama’s national security adviser, Susan Rice, of being responsible for the 1994 genocide in Rwanda.
    In 2015, she spoke at a conference of Christians United for Israel – an organization whose leader and founder, Pastor John Hagee, is a strong supporter of West Bank settlements.


    Turns out Hillary Clinton said Republicans — not Russians — were grooming Tulsi Gabbard


    Published: Oct 24, 2019
    In a curious turn of events, a number of major news organizations ran corrections Wednesday night over week-old reports that sparked a testy war of words between Hillary Clinton and Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard.
    Last week, a number of media organizations, including the New York Times, CNN and Politico, ran reports saying Clinton told the podcast “Campaign HQ with David Plouffe” that Russians were “grooming” a female Democratic candidate — widely assumed to be Gabbard — for a third-party run to play a potential spoiler in the 2020 election.
    But apparently Clinton meant Republicans — not Russians — were doing the grooming.
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tu...ard-2019-10-24


    MAGA Republican donors Adelsons couple is Israeli-American, so they can't be confused as 'Russians'.
    MAGA's talented 'Russian' son-in-law, an ally of Adelsons, is a Republican but there is no indication if that caused Hillary's confusion initially.


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    Lies, Hitlery looked like a crackpot and everyone made fun of her so they are rewriting history.

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    Turns out nobody believes that $#@!.
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    Here’s the full quote from the podcast:


    Plouffe: “So [Trump’s] gonna try and drive the people not to vote for him but just to say, ‘you know, you can’t vote for them either.’ And that seems to be, I think, to the extent that I can devine a strategy, their key strategy right now.”


    Clinton: “Well, I think there’s gonna be two parts and I think it’s gonna be the same as 2016: ‘Don’t vote for the other guy. You don’t like me? Don’t vote for the other guy because the other guy is gonna do X, Y and Z or the other guy did such terrible things and I’m gonna show you in these, you know, flashing videos that appear and then disappear and they’re on the dark web, and nobody can find them, but you’re gonna see them and you’re gonna see that person do these horrible things.’


    “They’re also gonna do third party again. And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up. Which she might not, ‘cause she’s also a Russian asset.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Here’s the full quote from the podcast:


    Plouffe: “So [Trump’s] gonna try and drive the people not to vote for him but just to say, ‘you know, you can’t vote for them either.’ And that seems to be, I think, to the extent that I can devine a strategy, their key strategy right now.”


    Clinton: “Well, I think there’s gonna be two parts and I think it’s gonna be the same as 2016: ‘Don’t vote for the other guy. You don’t like me? Don’t vote for the other guy because the other guy is gonna do X, Y and Z or the other guy did such terrible things and I’m gonna show you in these, you know, flashing videos that appear and then disappear and they’re on the dark web, and nobody can find them, but you’re gonna see them and you’re gonna see that person do these horrible things.’


    “They’re also gonna do third party again. And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up. Which she might not, ‘cause she’s also a Russian asset.”
    They DID try to call Stein a Russian asset last time so that part proves she meant exactly what she said about Gabbard.

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    If you can stomach The View, here's the audio of Hillary saying it:



    I suggest the "grooming" sentence is in fact referring to Republicans. However, the "Jill Stein" sentence clearly calls Tulsi a Russian asset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    If you can stomach The View, here's the audio of Hillary saying it:



    I suggest the "grooming" sentence is in fact referring to Republicans. However, the "Jill Stein" sentence clearly calls Tulsi a Russian asset.
    Yep. To what else would "also" be referring?



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    She didn't mean to commit Espionage either , she meant to commit Treason.

    If I remember correctly , Rush Linbaugh used to say ''words mean things....'' ''if he/she'd have meant to say
    something different or used a different word 'they' would have''

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    Hillary;
    '' When I said , push the Button on those basterds, go ahead and Nuc The Kremlin, I meant lets
    invite them for tea...''

    Wouldn't she make a great Pres (if she is really so fkd up that she doesn't know which way is up...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Turns out nobody believes that $#@!.
    And yet, media will continue the narrative and as usual the lies become the tacit truth in the minds of the average dimwits.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    Freedom will be stolen from you in a heartbeat if you do not behave as a wild and ravening beast pursuant to its protection.

    "Government" is naught but a mental construct, a script to which people meekly accept and play out their assigned roles by those with no authority to dictate such.

    Pray for reset.


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    Nice try Hillary but everybody knows who you were referring to.

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    Heaven forbid if Hillary's prediction did come true and Tulsi ran as 3rd party in 2020, could Tulsi end up taking away conservative/hard-right votes from MAGA (assuming he wins in any impeachment battles and GOP primary challenges from likes of Sanford, Romney etc).


    This is axios citing fb,reddit,gap,4chan etc, so read with some grains of salt.


    Sara Fischer
    Oct 22, 2019

    Tulsi Gabbard is getting a boost from conservatives online


    Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has received the biggest surge of all 2020 Democratic contenders in social media mentions by percentage increase between Oct. 8 and Oct. 15 according to social intelligence company Storyful.

    Why it matters: It's another example of a 2020 Democrat experiencing a boost online thanks in part to fringe voices on the right. Earlier this year, Axios reported on ways far-right voices were helping to elevate Andrew Yang.


    • The increase can be attributed to Gabbard's accusations that the Democratic Party had rigged the elections, which gained a lot of attention on the far-right, and her threat to boycott the last debate.

    By the numbers: Gabbard went from receiving 162,500 mentions across many social platforms measured by Storyful (Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Reddit, Gab, 4Chan) in the first week of October to over 338,000 between Oct. 8 and 15.

    • Comments by Gabbard condemning members of her own party have garnered her lots of attention from far-right figures, which explains some of the increased attention she is receiving on platforms like Reddit, 4chan and Gab.
    • For example, here's an example of a chain started about it on the pro-Trump Reddit Channel "r/DrainTheSwamp."

    Between the lines: "We are seeing commentary pushing the idea of a Yang/Gabbard ticket, especially on 4chan," says Storyful senior journalist Catherine Sanz, who pulled the data.

    • Gabbard has gained traction among prominent Yang Gang fan pages, per Sanz.
    • Caroline Orr, a research analyst and reporter, noted via Twitter yesterday that Tulsi-related hashtags "are getting boosted by YangGang, which is made up of a lot of MAGA fans."


    axios.com/tulsi-gabbard-right-wing-conservative-social-media-boost





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    November 16, 2018


    Gabbard received an award from Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a New Jersey-based rabbi with close ties to casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson (the largest donor to the Republican Party). A year before Gabbard attended Boteach’s gala dinner and received his “Champion of Freedom” Award, Boteach published full-page ads in leading U.S. newspapers in which he accused Obama’s national security adviser, Susan Rice, of being responsible for the 1994 genocide in Rwanda.
    In 2015, she spoke at a conference of Christians United for Israel – an organization whose leader and founder, Pastor John Hagee, is a strong supporter of West Bank settlements.
    Adelson is the ultra-Zionist Republican political kingmaker and casino billionaire, who is also Netanyahu's great backer and dominant owner of media in Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dciberty View Post
    If the rate of new laws grows every year by 10% and only 1% of Americans become Libertarians, you could say that tyranny is winning.


    Looks like Americans need to up their game.


    Americans don't care about freedom, but things are getting serious. Tyranny just increases constantly.


    Couldn't Americans get out of their echo chambers and wake people up?


    Who would have thought in 1980 that the USA would soon have nanny state laws, regulations, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, searches without warrants, mandatory minimums, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, private prisons, FOSTA, TSA groping, and Jade Helm?


    Maybe Americans might be a little safer in Chile when the USA starts WWIII with Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea.


    https://ideapod.com/top-10-safest-countries-world-war-3-breaks/





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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post

    If I remember correctly , Rush Linbaugh used to say ''words mean things....'' ''if he/she'd have meant to say
    something different or used a different word 'they' would have''
    Hard to disagree with that.
    Come to think of it, Obama gave a speech on similar topic also, headline then was something like "just words".

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Heaven forbid if Hillary's prediction did come true and Tulsi ran as 3rd party in 2020, could Tulsi end up taking away conservative/hard-right votes from MAGA (assuming he wins in any impeachment battles and GOP primary challenges from likes of Sanford, Romney etc).
    Oh yes, heaven forbid! I’m sure it must be keeping you awake at night that MAGA might be divided because of Tulsi!

    You know the problem with lies, deception, and sarcasm is that after a while it betrays the type of person you truly are and your divisive and deceptive agenda.

    Tulsi going third party would be the best thing that would happen for Trump to be re-elected. Any logical person would know that.

    Hillary is right to be worried about Tulsi. She is one of the greatest threats against the Democrats if she was to go third party. That would ensure Trump winning in a landslide.
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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post

    Oh yes, heaven forbid! I’m sure it must be keeping you awake at night that MAGA might be divided because of Tulsi!

    You know the problem with lies, deception, and sarcasm is that after a while it betrays the type of person you truly are and your divisive and deceptive agenda.

    Tulsi going third party would be the best thing that would happen for Trump to be re-elected. Any logical person would know that.

    Hillary is right to be worried about Tulsi. She is one of the greatest threats against the Democrats if she was to go third party. That would ensure Trump winning in a landslide.
    Sarcasm has nothing to do with lies & deception. Sometimes, of late, it's the only way to communicate on the forum w/o losing one's mind.

    And I agree totally about Tulsi.

    So, stop with the insults, TER- you're better than this.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Sarcasm has nothing to do with lies & deception. Sometimes, of late, it's the only way to communicate on the forum w/o losing one's mind.

    And I agree totally about Tulsi.

    So, stop with the insults, TER- you're better than this.
    TER is right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Sarcasm has nothing to do with lies & deception. Sometimes, of late, it's the only way to communicate on the forum w/o losing one's mind.

    And I agree totally about Tulsi.

    So, stop with the insults, TER- you're better than this.
    What I find insulting is being lied to and being mocked day in and day out by a person who feigns to be a concerned American citizen.

    Sarcasm is sarcasm when it is obvious to those around in order to make a point. It’s why one often puts /s or an emoticon to make sure it is obvious. What this poster does is not to be obvious but to be deceptive, especially to anyone who isn’t aware of his agenda and tactics. Big difference.
    Last edited by TER; 10-28-2019 at 05:16 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Hard to disagree with that.
    Come to think of it, Obama gave a speech on similar topic also, headline then was something like "just words".
    I almost break out in hives when I hear that name 'Obama' , grrr; Mandate Heath insurance, mandate any product
    that Americans must buy , mandatory ....


  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    What a sad end to Tulsi's political career just days after she called MAGA Saudi's 'bit*h' and referred to him as a 'pimp' and soon after she was outed as secret pawn of Deep Zionism.

    Madam Hillary Clinton, what have you done.

    If 'Russians' was euphemism for 'Right Wing Jewish/Pro-Israel neoconservative donors' of Republicans-MAGA wing, she should say it or clarify if it was a Freudian slip or something else.



    Gabbard received an award from Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a New Jersey-based rabbi with close ties to casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson (the largest donor to the Republican Party). A year before Gabbard attended Boteach’s gala dinner and received his “Champion of Freedom” Award, Boteach published full-page ads in leading U.S. newspapers in which he accused Obama’s national security adviser, Susan Rice, of being responsible for the 1994 genocide in Rwanda.
    In 2015, she spoke at a conference of Christians United for Israel – an organization whose leader and founder, Pastor John Hagee, is a strong supporter of West Bank settlements.


    Turns out Hillary Clinton said Republicans — not Russians — were grooming Tulsi Gabbard


    Published: Oct 24, 2019
    In a curious turn of events, a number of major news organizations ran corrections Wednesday night over week-old reports that sparked a testy war of words between Hillary Clinton and Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard.
    Last week, a number of media organizations, including the New York Times, CNN and Politico, ran reports saying Clinton told the podcast “Campaign HQ with David Plouffe” that Russians were “grooming” a female Democratic candidate — widely assumed to be Gabbard — for a third-party run to play a potential spoiler in the 2020 election.
    But apparently Clinton meant Republicans — not Russians — were doing the grooming.
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tu...ard-2019-10-24


    MAGA Republican donors Adelsons couple is Israeli-American, so they can't be confused as 'Russians'.
    MAGA's talented 'Russian' son-in-law, an ally of Adelsons, is a Republican but there is no indication if that caused Hillary's confusion initially.





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    The Associated Press said: “In a story Oct. 18 about Tulsi Gabbard and Hillary Clinton, The Associated Press reported erroneously that Hillary Clinton said she believes the Russians have ‘got their eye on somebody who’s currently in the Democratic primary and grooming her to be the third-party candidate.’ She was referring to Republicans, not Russians, according to an aide.”

    Well they both start with "R".
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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    What I find insulting is being lied to and being mocked day in and day out by a person who feigns to be a concerned American citizen.

    Sarcasm is sarcasm when it is obvious to those around in order to make a point. It’s why one often puts /s or an emoticon to make sure it is obvious. What this poster does is not to be obvious but to be deceptive, especially to anyone who isn’t aware of his agenda and tactics. Big difference.
    Disagree- @enhanced_deficit was totally anti-Obama & pretty much pro-Trump until he started seeing some of the constant flip-flops etc. When he started posting about it he got called all sorts of names, so he began the sarcasm stuff. He's never been deceptive.

    Your description fits some others here, but not him.
    There is no spoon.

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Disagree- @enhanced_deficit was totally anti-Obama & pretty much pro-Trump until he started seeing some of the constant flip-flops etc. When he started posting about it he got called all sorts of names, so he began the sarcasm stuff. He's never been deceptive.

    Your description fits some others here, but not him.
    What did angelatc say? Something like, there's not a liberty lover on the planet who hasn't been called a Republican by the Left and a Democrat by the Right. Free thinkers seem to be unthinkable.



    No wonder we're so easy to divide and conquer.
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    My tax dollars paid to fund ISIS and make fake beheading videos. Are you saying we shouldn't get our monies worth??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    I almost break out in hives when I hear that name 'Obama' , grrr; Mandate Heath insurance, mandate any product
    that Americans must buy , mandatory ....

    You may have to pace yourself and gradually learn to think like a champion.





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    I - Not headlined in US Media
    Tulsi's palling around with Iraq/Iran wars mongers, taking fake 'freedom' awards from neocons

    Video: CUFI's Pastor John Hagee Praying for more War in the name of Jesus



    Gabbard received an award from Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a New Jersey-based rabbi with close ties to casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson (the largest donor to the Republican Party). A year before Gabbard attended Boteach’s gala dinner and received his “Champion of Freedom” Award, Boteach published full-page ads in leading U.S. newspapers in which he accused Obama’s national security adviser, Susan Rice, of being responsible for the 1994 genocide in Rwanda.
    In 2015, she spoke at a conference of Christians United for Israel – an organization whose leader and founder, Pastor John Hagee, is a strong supporter of West Bank settlements.




    II - Headlined in US Media
    'Anti-war' Tulsi calling a sitting MAGA b-word & p-word
    (to his credit he turned the other cheek and did not retaliate)


    November 21, 2018
    Rep. Tulsi Gabbard says Trump is "Saudi Arabia's bitch" in tweet
    "Hey @realdonaldtrump: being Saudi Arabia's bitch is not "America First,"" Gabbard tweeted.

    Tulsi slams Trump as Saudi Arabia's 'bitch' , 'We are not your prostitutes. You are not our pimp'
    September 16, 2019




    Credit should be given that Tulsi did not call MAGA a b-word of his top donor Adelson.
    There is also no proof on in reliable US MSM that she is being groomed by Deep Neocons and war-monger interests to make fake attacks against MAGA to help Adelsons funded candidate win 2020.

    But still, I and II don't add up.

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    The Associated Press said: “In a story Oct. 18 about Tulsi Gabbard and Hillary Clinton, The Associated Press reported erroneously that Hillary Clinton said she believes the Russians have ‘got their eye on somebody who’s currently in the Democratic primary and grooming her to be the third-party candidate.’ She was referring to Republicans, not Russians, according to an aide.”
    Well they both start with "R".
    True that





    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Lies, Hitlery looked like a crackpot and everyone made fun of her so they are rewriting history.

    To be fair, you used to call MAGA a 'dump' also. What caused you to reverse your stance towrads him so radically?


    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    Dump already said Obummer started ISIS, he should invite Iran to make their evidence public.
    EM.

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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    You may have to pace yourself and gradually learn to think like a champion.


    I guess so;
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    Tulsi Gabbard doesn't qualify for Iowa Democrats' event

    By Kate Sullivan and Dan Merica, CNN
    Wed October 30, 2019

    Washington (CNN) Rep. Tulsi Gabbard did not meet the threshold to speak at Friday's Iowa Democratic Party Liberty and Justice Celebration, which is expected to be attended by 14 other Democratic presidential candidates.

    To qualify for the event, candidates could either open at least two field offices in the state with at least 10 dedicated field organizing staff or buy the Iowa Democratic Party's voter file, according to Jonah Hermann, the spokesman for the state Democratic Party. A voter file is a digital database of official, publicly available government records of who is registered to vote and who voted in past elections.

    "To our knowledge," Hermann said, "the congresswoman did neither of those things."
    CNN has reached out to the Gabbard campaign for comment.
    The event in Des Moines is described as the "premier event of the caucus season" by the Iowa Democratic Party. Iowa is a key early-voting state, and its first-in-the-nation caucuses will take place on February 3.
    cnn.com/2019/10/30/politics/tulsi-gabbard-qualify-iowa-democrats/index.html



    Source being notorious CNN, pending confirmation from other news sources.



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  33. #29
    Tulsi’s run will be snuffed before she even gets a chance.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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