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    Iraq says U.S. forces withdrawing from Syria have no approval to stay

    U.S. forces that crossed into Iraq as part of a pull-out from Syria do not have permission to stay and can only be there in transit, the Iraqi military said on Tuesday.

    U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper said, however, that Washington aimed eventually to bring the troops withdrawing from Syria back to the United States.

    ďThe aim isnít to stay in Iraq interminably, the aim is to pull our soldiers out and eventually get them back home,Ē Esper said at the Prince Sultan Air Base near Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
    Esper said the details had not yet been worked out on how long the U.S. troops would stay in Iraq and he would be having discussions with his Iraqi counterpart on Wednesday.

    More at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN1X10RE


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    Vice President Pence said Tuesday that President Trump is following through on his promise to bring U.S. troops home from Syria and talked up the prospect of a permanent ceasefire in the region.
    Pence insisted that a ceasefire the administration helped broker between Turkey and Syria last week “has held” and claimed Trump’s own moves had paved the way for the possibility of a permanent ceasefire.
    “Earlier today, we received word from the Syrian defense forces commander that all of their military forces have withdrawn from the safe zone under Turkish military control and before I came here, our team was continuing in communicating with both sides in hope that a permanent ceasefire could soon take hold,” Pence said in remarks at the Heritage Foundation’s Honors Gala in Washington, D.C. “Those discussions are ongoing.”

    “Thanks to the strong leadership from President Donald Trump, we have an opportunity for a permanent ceasefire,” Pence continued, adding, “our troops are coming home.”

    “Now that our military and our allies have achieved our objectives against ISIS, President Trump is keeping his word to the American people and our troops are starting to come home,” he said.

    More at: https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...re-coming-home
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    Except the ones that stay in Syria.

    "guarding" Oil .. ( like "guarding Poppies)

    not even our oil.
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    "...eventually get them back home." So, any day now, right?
    Chris

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    “We have secured the oil.”

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    U.S. forces that crossed into Iraq as part of a pull-out from Syria do not have permission to stay and can only be there in transit, the Iraqi military said on Tuesday.
    Does this look like the kind of alpha leader who needs permissions before moving troops into a country?



    MAGA's doesn't play FLAT abroad even if temporarily flatish at home due to dirty play by Dems.



    Stop wasting too much time on Iraq SAYS, Pemce SAYS type statements and just what it DOES.

    Eventually all wars will end and eventually Jesus will return. How many troops have returned home from Syria so far after already announced and celeberated 'withdrawal'?

    Were the fraction of his surge that came out of Afghanistan moved to Israel/Saudi as part of 14,000 troops surge in mideast in 2019 or those returned home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    “We have secured the oil.”
    Turkey will not be getting it, they had been buying it from ISIS and they wanted to take it from the Kurds.
    By pulling out and letting Assad and the Russians get between Turkey and the oil Trump stopped Turkey from taking it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Does this look like the kind of alpha leader who needs permissions before moving troops into a country?
    Trump wanted to bring the troops home, he knew and counted on Iraq telling us they couldn't stay, they have been making noises about telling us to remove the troops already there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Except the ones that stay in Syria.

    "guarding" Oil .. ( like "guarding Poppies)

    not even our oil.
    They will leave too in the next phase.
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    "...eventually get them back home."

    "...eventually get them back home."

    "...eventually get them back home."
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    "...eventually get them back home."

    "...eventually get them back home."

    "...eventually get them back home."
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.
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    Groucho Marx

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    "...eventually..."

    "...eventually..."

    "...eventually..."
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    "...eventually..."

    "...eventually..."

    "...eventually..."
    Which means any time that isn't instantly.

    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Maybe the Iraqis can do what Trump is incapable of doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Maybe the Iraqis can do what Trump is incapable of doing.
    To be fair to the MAGA crowd, they also helped Obama withdraw the troops and everybody gave him credit for it and also the blame when ISIS came up from the US absence.
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    Trump True Believer: "Hey, I could use that $100 you owe me."

    Trump: "Not to worry. I'll get that to you eventually. [under breath] Better I owe you than cheat you out if it."

    TTB: "Great! This'll really help me out."

    Rational Observer: "snig ger, snig ger"
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They will leave too in the next phase.
    I remember hearing that All Through High School.

    I was 17,, at Ft. Polk watching this on the news.




    I have heard this $hit before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    "...eventually get them back home."
    "...eventually get them back home."
    "...eventually get them back home."
    As opposed to the majority of politicians that want them to stay there forever, good news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    As opposed to the majority of politicians that want them to stay there forever, good news.
    No kidding. After the disillusionment from the 2008 and 2012 elections where the media savaged and labeled anyone a kook who would even imply removing the troops, I didn't think we'd ever see a sitting president talking like this unless there was a cataclysmic economic collapse.

    That said, Trump is either a good man for going against the grain-- which it appears to me or something wicked this way comes.

    As usual, I am hoping for the best and preparing for the worst as should everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Trump True Believer: "Hey, I could use that $100 you owe me."

    Trump: "Not to worry. I'll get that to you eventually. [under breath] Better I owe you than cheat you out if it."

    TTB: "Great! This'll really help me out."

    Rational Observer: "snig ger, snig ger"
    You've really got it BAAAAD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.
    You do know that about a couple dozen units are slated for deployement to Iraq in the next few years right?

    I guess your Reuters story doesn't cover that.

    I'm very happy with the direction it appears we are heading, but enough of the nonsense we are leaving completely from ANYWHERE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    You've really got it BAAAAD.

    Yes, skepticism of those in positions of power is "BAAAAD."

    Blind trust is certainly the way to go.

    Thanks for straightening me out on that.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Yes, skepticism of those in positions of power is "BAAAAD."

    Blind trust is certainly the way to go.

    Thanks for straightening me out on that.
    I'm telling you that you have become so jaded you don't see things that are happening, because of Trump, whether intentional or not (most likely not), you can't see good things happening. And because you only see bad things you cannot promote the good things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    You do know that about a couple dozen units are slated for deployement to Iraq in the next few years right?

    I guess your Reuters story doesn't cover that.

    I'm very happy with the direction it appears we are heading, but enough of the nonsense we are leaving completely from ANYWHERE.
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I'm telling you that you have become so jaded you don't see things that are happening, because of Trump, whether intentional or not (most likely not), you can't see good things happening. And because you only see bad things you cannot promote the good things.
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Gullible about WHAT exactly?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 10-23-2019 at 11:08 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Except the ones that stay in Syria.

    "guarding" Oil .. ( like "guarding Poppies)

    not even our oil.
    And the ones in Kuwait.......who run missions into Iraq on a daily basis.

    but nevermind.

    We are coming home.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect - Mark Twain

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    They should have never even been there to begin with.
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    Calvin Coolidge

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Answer my question or just stop the $#@!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Answer my question...
    I have. Many times.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes, we know you think Trump is your fairy godmother.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES

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