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    Trump urges GOP to fight for him

    President Trump delivered a pointed message Monday to Republicans beginning to break from their White House ally amid Democrats’ escalating impeachment investigation: Fight harder for me.

    “Republicans have to get tougher and fight,” Trump said during a Cabinet meeting at the White House. “We have some that are great fighters, but they have to get tougher and fight because the Democrats are trying to hurt the Republican Party for the election.”

    Trump has been growing more and more irritated by criticism from members of his own party on a trio of foreign policy issues: Democrats’ impeachment probe focused on Ukraine, his decision to pull troops out of Syria and his announcement that the next Group of Seven conference would be held at his Doral golf resort in Florida.

    On the first two, Trump has remained defiant. On the third, the president on Saturday made the rare move of reversing course in response to outcry — both public and private — from some of the same Republicans who have typically defended him.

    The GOP opposition came from multiple fronts.

    On Fox News, the president’s go-to news outlet, legal analysts, including former Judge Andrew Napolitano, charged the president with flagrant violations of the constitutional ban on accepting foreign gifts.

    Those criticisms were echoed by a handful of centrist Republicans who voiced public concerns that the Doral decision, if not illegal, created unflattering perceptions that the president was using the office to boost his business interests.

    Privately, a group of moderate Republican lawmakers, including Reps. Fred Upton (Mich.) and Pete King (N.Y.), huddled with Mick Mulvaney at Camp David over the weekend, warning Trump’s acting chief of staff of the poor optics and potential political backlash of hosting the meeting at the Trump resort.

    Other GOP lawmakers texted and called White House officials to object to the move, sources said.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-fight-for-him



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    He's got to be bit worried after new reality of GOP pressure on him that allegedly forced him to cancel G7 at his hotel yesterday and reports of Senate chairman giving presentation on impeachment in closed door meeting/ Romney indicating his pro MAGA removal stance.

    Timing is bad as his former party mates like Pelosi and Schumer/NBC also seem to be not very happy with him lately although he still may get strong support from some Dem quarters considering his almost blindly strong support for Israel since coming to White House. He's played very smart 3D chess, won't be easy to isolate him even if some in GOP jumped ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Pelosi and Schumer/NBC also seem to be not very happy with him lately

    Pelosi and Schumer seem to not be happy with Trump?

    Not sure if you're delusional or what because Pelosi and Schumer hate Trump and have for years now.

    Trump has nothing to do worry about, he gets criticism from his own party but they all fall in line when it counts as they know what will happen if they don't, most never trump GOPers are gone. There will be no impeachment.

    Even Ron Paul knows its a charade but you keep playing along like a useful idiot, parroting the DEM talking points 1:1.
    Rand Paul : Ultimately, if someone's going to accuse you of something that's going to bring down a presidency, I think we deserve to know who that person is.
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    What a grotesque embarrassment Rand has become
    Ron Paul : If you're accused of a crime, you have the right to face your accuser.
    So if Rand Paul holds the same exact position as his father, it makes him embarrassing?

    Hmmm...ok r3volution 3.0

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    I'll fight for him, all he has to do is what he said he would.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Even Ron Paul knows its a charade but you keep playing along like a useful idiot, parroting the DEM talking points 1:1.
    Oh, lord.

    The man keeps us informed of both what's really happening and what narrative is being sold. He does it well, and keeps his tongue in his cheek while doing it.

    Everything he says does not really need to be punctuated with various silly accusations and a Partisan Talking Point ©, does it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I'll fight for him, all he has to do is what he said he would.
    Respect must be earned? What a novel concept.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Everything he says does not really need to be punctuated with various silly accusations and a Partisan Talking Point ©, does it?
    Let me know when he does anything different.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Pelosi and Schumer seem to not be happy with Trump?
    Not sure if it's just over emotionality or something else but quite a few MAGA's supporters have displayed a tendency to try and turn different political opinions into personal haggling. At least try to learn something from the great leader's style, looking at his incredible cool calm genuine-alpha temprament.

    As for Pelosi/Dems-MAGA relations, they have been chums for quite a while and not surprising given MAGA's record of decades as a NYC RINO liberal progressive socialist with quite a few common causes with Dems going beyond social liberal issues, abortion, gay weddings, LGBTQ rights, protectionism, universal healthcare, gun control, diversity is our strength etc.


    Trump's donation history shows Democratic favoritism
    Apr 26, 2011

    Trump jumps in to offer aid to Democrat Pelosi's speaker bid
    Nov 17, 2018

    Trump: "Nancy Pelosi loves this country"
    11-07-2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Let me know when he does anything different.
    How about I let you know when you manage to hold your tongue?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Oh, lord.

    The man keeps us informed of both what's really happening and what narrative is being sold. He does it well, and keeps his tongue in his cheek while doing it.

    Everything he says does not really need to be punctuated with various silly accusations and a Partisan Talking Point ©, does it?
    Please do tell me anything I said that was actually wrong?

    I'll even repeat it for you in simple terms so you don't change the subject/ignore like everyone else does.

    -Trump doesn't have to worry about the GOP abandoning him
    -Trump isn't getting impeached
    -Ron Paul knows its a charade
    -E_D parrots Dem talking points on RPF
    Rand Paul : Ultimately, if someone's going to accuse you of something that's going to bring down a presidency, I think we deserve to know who that person is.
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    What a grotesque embarrassment Rand has become
    Ron Paul : If you're accused of a crime, you have the right to face your accuser.
    So if Rand Paul holds the same exact position as his father, it makes him embarrassing?

    Hmmm...ok r3volution 3.0

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    There's right and wrong, and there's tiresome and more tiresome.

    If that's what you want to be, suit yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Pelosi and Schumer seem to not be happy with Trump?

    Not sure if you're delusional or what because Pelosi and Schumer hate Trump and have for years now.

    Trump has nothing to do worry about, he gets criticism from his own party but they all fall in line when it counts as they know what will happen if they don't, most never trump GOPers are gone. There will be no impeachment.

    Even Ron Paul knows its a charade but you keep playing along like a useful idiot, parroting the DEM talking points 1:1.
    @enhanced_deficit is speaking with a touch of sarcasm- just sometimes easier to talk about today's politics that way.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    @enhanced_deficit is speaking with a touch of sarcasm- just sometimes easier to talk about today's politics that way.
    And the message expressed by the sarcasm is always an MSM/DNC talking point.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And the message expressed by the sarcasm is always an MSM/DNC talking point.
    Always?

    Gee, and I thought I long ago ran out of fingers and toes counting the times his sarcasm was making fun of MSM/DNC talking points.

    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Timing is bad as his former party mates like Pelosi and Schumer/NBC also seem to be not very happy with him lately although he still may get strong support from some Dem quarters considering his almost blindly strong support for Israel since coming to White House.
    But then, sane people always get called lefties by righties and called righties by lefties.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 10-21-2019 at 10:18 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    There's right and wrong, and there's tiresome and more tiresome.

    If that's what you want to be, suit yourself.
    Oooohhhh subject ignored, as predicted.

    At this point you're just being dumb for the sake of being dumb. Unhappy because I called out your buddy and not even adding anything to this thread, which is about Trump "urging" the GOP to back him.

    I disputed E_D's point and all you did was what? nothing... Gave you the opportunity to dispute any points I made and well...we know the rest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    @enhanced_deficit is speaking with a touch of sarcasm- just sometimes easier to talk about today's politics that way.

    Well I guess you were wrong because he is very serious, see below....



    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Not sure if it's just over emotionality or something else but quite a few MAGA's supporters have displayed a tendency to try and turn different political opinions into personal haggling. At least try to learn something from the great leader's style, looking at his incredible cool calm genuine-alpha temprament.

    As for Pelosi/Dems-MAGA relations, they have been chums for quite a while and not surprising given MAGA's record of decades as a NYC RINO liberal progressive socialist with quite a few common causes with Dems going beyond social liberal issues, abortion, gay weddings, LGBTQ rights, protectionism, universal healthcare, gun control, diversity is our strength etc.


    Trump's donation history shows Democratic favoritism
    Apr 26, 2011

    Trump jumps in to offer aid to Democrat Pelosi's speaker bid
    Nov 17, 2018

    Trump: "Nancy Pelosi loves this country"
    11-07-2018
    I adamantly said they've hated him for years, was that incorrect? 2016-2019, is that one year or maybe...years? I'm sure if I tried hard enough, I could find one former McCain fan on RPF, doesn't it mean they still feel the same.

    MAGA supporters can definitely try to emulate Trump, its annoying, I don't like it either unless its out of sarcasm.

    Does not take away from the fact you are parroting nearly every MSM talking point wherever the news cycle takes you. Rachael Maddow rely on people like you to play your part in the narrative and you comply oh so willingly.

    Ron Paul is telling you its a complete charade and yet you still play the role of useful idiot repeating the fake news talking points word for word.
    Last edited by eleganz; 10-22-2019 at 12:27 AM.
    Rand Paul : Ultimately, if someone's going to accuse you of something that's going to bring down a presidency, I think we deserve to know who that person is.
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    What a grotesque embarrassment Rand has become
    Ron Paul : If you're accused of a crime, you have the right to face your accuser.
    So if Rand Paul holds the same exact position as his father, it makes him embarrassing?

    Hmmm...ok r3volution 3.0

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    Its clear by now isnt it everyone?

    The globalists/Leftists and their lap barking dogs News Media want Trump gone and removed no matter how they just do. Then the leftists will impose all of their beloved leftists polices and agenda including by opening the borders by punishing the southern states by flooding them with migrants and of course Democrats imposing Carbon taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Its clear by now isnt it everyone?

    The globalists/Leftists and their lap barking dogs News Media want Trump gone and removed no matter how they just do. Then the leftists will impose all of their beloved leftists polices and agenda including by opening the borders by punishing the southern states by flooding them with migrants and of course Democrats imposing Carbon taxes.
    It's only clear for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

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    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.” ~ Charles Dickens



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Let me know when he does anything different.
    Oh I didn't know the deficit was at zero and all the troops were home.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect - Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    I adamantly said they've hated him for years, was that incorrect?


    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Its clear by now isnt it everyone?

    The globalists/Leftists and their lap barking dogs News Media want Trump gone and removed no matter how they just do. Then the leftists will impose all of their beloved leftists polices and agenda including by opening the borders by punishing the southern states by flooding them with migrants and of course Democrats imposing Carbon taxes.
    Quick quiz on the U.S. Constitution: If Trump is impeached and removed from office, what Democrat replaces him?

    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    It's only clear for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

    Why, yes. It is most clear to those who only have eyes to see and ears to hear Fox News.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Quick quiz on the U.S. Constitution: If Trump is impeached and removed from office, what Democrat replaces him?
    I am sure that if that happens they will run Pence off and Pelosi will be next in line.



    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Why, yes. It is most clear to those who only have eyes to see and ears to hear Fox News.
    Did you bother to see and hear what Rand said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    I am sure that if that happens they will run Pence off and Pelosi will be next in line.
    So you think Pence will resign without appointing a vice president? Or that he'll refuse to take the oath of office?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES

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    eleganz says impeachment is a charade, the Canadian says impeachment will lead to Democrats Gone Wild, and donnay says impeachment will lead to a petrified Pence and President Pelosi. And Rand Paul didn't explain how that could happen.

    Then all of you treat me like an idiot for not seeing how all three of you could be right. Won't someone help a brother out?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So you think Pence will resign without appointing a vice president? Or that he'll refuse to take the oath of office?
    Most likely he would resign and not take the oath of office because the dirty communist will rack-up ridiculous and false charges against him as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Most likely he would resign and not take the oath of office because the dirty communist will rack-up ridiculous and false charges against him as well.
    I see. That's the most likely scenario, is it? Well, Trump certainly does hire the best people, doesn't he?

    And filling Facebook with "yay Trump" posts will prevent this?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    And Rand Paul didn't explain how that could happen.

    Then all of you treat me like an idiot for not seeing how all three of you could be right. Won't someone help a brother out?
    Tucker and Rand Paul are pointing out that the neocons want war and because Trump wants our troops home, people like Lindsey Graham will back step any attempt to help Trump against the communist gunning for him. What's not to see and hear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Tucker and Rand Paul are pointing out that the neocons want war and because Trump wants our troops home, people like Lindsey Graham will back step any attempt to help Trump against the communist gunning for him. What's not to see and hear?
    Well, according to you three, enhanced_deficit should not be seen and heard. What's so scary about his subtle sarcasm?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I see. That's the most likely scenario, is it? Well, Trump certainly does hire the best people, doesn't he?

    And filling Facebook with "yay Trump" posts will prevent this?
    Walk a mile in his moccasins, hard to know who to trust in the swamp. He is not infallible. I don't think any one could do this job without mistakes being made.

    It is good that Trump has his Twitter account so he can circumvent the MSM/Communist outright lies and run with them with absolutely no proof. Just like they ran with the lie he was strong -arming the Ukrainian President for information on Joe Biden.
    Last edited by donnay; 10-22-2019 at 09:27 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Well, according to you three, enhanced_deficit should not be seen and heard. What's so scary about his subtle sarcasm?
    Don't put words in my mouth; I have no issues with enhanced_deficit posting a lot of MSM/Communist lies. Just like Zippy and some others do as well.
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    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.” ~ Charles Dickens

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    I think Trump needs the people behind him if he is to not be impeached. The GOP has a bunch of bad actors and I would like to see them gone along with bad actors from the democrats.

    I found this out not long ago that Nixon was looking for a very specific thing when he did his water gate thing. He was after a blackmail list I believe Hillary was h=able to get her hands on it and this is why we are in the deep do doo we are in right now. Too many people on the list are still in office....I don't know about the rest of you but I don't want a bunch of perves in office who are being blackmailed to do Hillary's bidding. I am all for term limits for the house and the senate with no pension plans or extravagant benefits package. Certain individuals have way too much power over every aspect of our lives it ain't right....

  33. #29
    For the record, I have called out acptulsa twice now to dispute my points, he still ignores oh but the last post responding to me was just a picture of Trump smiling.

    Its just sad when I knew you were going to ignore me simplifying those points for you and you went ahead and did exactly what I said you would.

    Also I am not the only saying impeachment is a charade, Ron Paul is saying impeachment is fake and CIA very likely behind it.

    Its just so amazing how many here are so obsessed with "orange man bad" that they can't even see something even when Ron Paul is telling you to look at it.

    TDS is more powerful than Ron Paul, at least on RPF.
    Rand Paul : Ultimately, if someone's going to accuse you of something that's going to bring down a presidency, I think we deserve to know who that person is.
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    What a grotesque embarrassment Rand has become
    Ron Paul : If you're accused of a crime, you have the right to face your accuser.
    So if Rand Paul holds the same exact position as his father, it makes him embarrassing?

    Hmmm...ok r3volution 3.0

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul
    Make no mistake -- President Trump has not been a strong ally on issues like gun rights, spying, spending, and other important issues.
    ..
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES

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