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    Brexit: What happens now?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46393399

    Instead of voting on the agreement (which many complained there was no time to read it prior to the vote), Parliament voted to require Johnson to ask for another extension.

    A new version of the Brexit deal has been agreed between the EU and UK.

    For the first time this century, MPs sat in the House of Commons on a Saturday to debate it.

    The new deal replaces the Northern Ireland backstop with special arrangements for Northern Ireland that will prevent a hard Irish border.

    There is also a new political declaration which sets out proposals for the long-term future relationship between the UK and the EU.

    A key amendment from MP Oliver Letwin has passed. It means that any support MPs give to the Brexit deal is withheld until legislation to implement the deal has been passed by MPs and Lords.

    Mr Johnson must now - under the so-called Benn Act - request a three-month delay to Brexit by the end of Saturday.




    Government sources had made clear that if Mr Letwin's amendment passed, any vote on the deal on Saturday would not be meaningful.

    Jacob Rees Mogg has said the government plans to hold a meaningful vote on Monday. It's not clear whether the Speaker will allow that to go ahead - he could rule it would be out of order.

    Another option is for the government to press ahead with legislation to implement the deal next week. That could also remove the need for a separate meaningful vote.

    Extension request
    There has been much discussion about the scenarios where the government was forced to ask for an extension.

    Cabinet ministers have said the government will obey the law, but the prime minister has said he will not ask for an extension. There has been some speculation about finding a loophole in the law or using some other device to avoid Mr Johnson himself having to ask for the extension.

    For example, it's been suggested that he could request an extension but at the same time tell the EU to ignore his request.

    If Mr Johnson refuses to write the letter asking for an extension then it's likely he will face a legal challenge. The Scottish Court of Session could rule as early as 21 October.

    If the EU refuses to grant the UK a delay to Brexit then Parliament has until 31 October to pass a deal and the associated legislation.

    No-deal Brexit on 31 October
    The default position is still that the UK will leave the EU on 31 October at 23:00 GMT.

    Even if the prime minister requests an extension there is no absolute guarantee that the other EU countries would agree.

    And if MPs vote in favour of the deal, but the subsequent implementation legislation does not pass, the UK would leave without a deal on 31 October.

    Leaving without a deal (or withdrawal agreement) means the UK would immediately exit the customs union and single market - arrangements designed to make trade easier.

    Many politicians and businesses say this would damage the economy. Others say the risks are exaggerated.
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    Time to tell the EU they had better deny the request if they don't want Boris and Nigel to cause trouble.
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    Boris has sent an unsigned letter and another letter telling the EU to ignore it.

    https://news.sky.com/story/pm-asks-e...dline-11840079

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    Dam, I'm beginning to think a violent revolt would be easier than this bureaucratic mess their in.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Boris has sent an unsigned letter and another letter telling the EU to ignore it.

    https://news.sky.com/story/pm-asks-e...dline-11840079
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/holidaymak...100018478.html

    Travel firms are insisting that “everything will remain the same” for holidaymakers after Brexit.
    Warnings were issued last year about potential restrictions for foreign travel in the event of the UK withdrawing from the EU without an agreement.
    These included passports needing to be valid for six months after the end of trips and passengers not being allowed to use border queues designated for EU passport holders.
    But Mark Tanzer, chief executive of travel trade organisation Abta, told the PA news agency that the transition period means there will be no changes when Brexit happens at 11pm on Friday.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/holidaymak...100018478.html
    .
    But Mark Tanzer, chief executive of travel trade organisation Abta, told the PA news agency that the transition period means there will be no changes when Brexit happens at 11pm on Friday.
    There's a 12 month transition period so everything stays the same with regards to freedom of movement and no requirement of a visa. This will end next January.

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    Now they get what they say they want, good and hard.



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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Now they get what they say they want, good and hard.
    Yes, they do:

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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