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    My people! I had no idea how much until I got my DNA profile. I always knew I had some in my heritage; but the dna results showed that > 50% was scotch/irish and same with DW.

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    Discussed among my people long ago it seemed a consensus that the greatest individual warriors usually came from the more degenerate sects of europeans such as Irish , spanish and scots . While the french and english tried to act a bit more civilized . Overall , dirty euros mostly untrustworthy heathens who only observe God on sundays.
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    The Scots and the Irish were tricked at the very important and formative Battles of Culloden and the Boyne by the Knights of the Garter (English Order of Knights founded in Woodstock, Oxford in 1348).

    The Knights of the Garter controlled both sides of the warring factions....

    i.e. they couldn't lose

    KG - Knight of the Garter

    The Irish Battle of the Boyne 1690

    The Battle of the Boyne was a battle in 1690 between the Jacobite forces of the deposed
    King James II (KG #439 appointed 1642) of England and Ireland, VII of Scotland and
    the Williamite forces of King William III (KG #456 appointed 1653) who, with his wife
    Queen Mary II (his cousin and James's daughter), had acceded to the Crowns of England
    and Scotland in 1689.

    The battle took place across the River Boyne close to the town of Drogheda in the Kingdom of Ireland, modern-day Republic of Ireland, and resulted in a victory for William.

    King James II’s commanders included James FitzJames, 1st Duke of Berwick (KG #495 appointed 1688)

    Jacobite Commander - James FitzJames, 1st Duke of Berwick (KG #495
    appointed 1688)

    William's commander-in-chief was Frederic Herman de Schomberg, 1st Duke of Schomberg.(KG #497 appointed 1689)

    Williamite Commander - Frederic Herman de Schomberg, 1st Duke of
    Schomberg.(KG #497 appointed 1689)

    The best Williamite infantry were from Denmark supplied by Prince George of
    Denmark (KG #487 appointed 1684).

    William III KG #456 and Prince George of Denmark KG #487 at the Battle
    of the Boyne, 1690 by Jan Wyck (1645–1700)

    The battle took place on 1 July 1690. William's forces defeated James's army, which
    consisted mostly of raw recruits in a somewhat one-sided affair.

    Both sides of the battle were controlled by the Knights of the Garter.
    The final result had been carefully planned long before the battle took place.

    The Battle of Culloden was the final confrontation of the Jacobite Rising of 1745. On 16 April 1746, the Jacobite forces of Charles Edward Stuart (Knight of the Garter) were decisively defeated by Hanoverian forces commanded by William Augustus, Duke of Cumberland (KG #546 appointed 1730), near Inverness in the Scottish Highlands.

    Queen Anne, the last monarch of the House of Stuart, died in 1714, with no living children. Under the terms of the Act of Settlement 1701, she was succeeded by her second cousin George I of the House of Hanover, who was a descendant of the Stuarts through his maternal grandmother, Elizabeth, a daughter of James VI and I.

    Raising an army consisting mostly of Scottish clansmen along with smaller units of Irish and Englishmen from the Manchester Regiment, Charles' efforts initially met with success and at one point began to threaten London. However, a series of events forced the army's return to Scotland, where they were soon pursued by an army raised by the Duke of Cumberland. The two forces eventually met at Culloden, on terrain that made the highland charge difficult and gave the larger and well-armed British forces the advantage. The battle lasted only an hour, with the Jacobites suffering a bloody defeat. Between 1,500 and 2,000 Jacobites were killed or wounded in the brief battle. In contrast, only about 300 government soldiers were killed or wounded.

    The Hanoverian victory at Culloden halted the Jacobite intent to overthrow the House of Hanover and restore the House of Stuart to the British throne; Charles Stuart never again tried to challenge Hanoverian power in Great Britain. The conflict was the last pitched battle fought on British soil.


    Jacobite Rising of 1745 – The Knights of the Garter Influence

    Knights of the Garter - Hanoverians

    Prince William Augustus, Duke of Cumberland, KG #546 appointed 1730. Best remembered for his role in putting down the Jacobite Rising at the Battle of Culloden in 1746. He is often referred to by the nickname - 'Butcher' Cumberland.

    Charles Lennox, 2nd Duke of Richmond KG#544 appointed 1726. Richmond was a Lieutenant-General in the British Army and served under the notorious Duke of Cumberland in the Hanoverian campaign against the Jacobite rising of 1745.

    John Montagu, 2nd Duke of Montagu KG #532 appointed 1718. In 1745, Montagu raised a cavalry regiment known as Montagu's Carabineers, which, however, was disbanded after the Battle of Culloden.

    Thomas Pelham-Holles, 1st Duke of Newcastle KG #533 appointed 1718. By late 1745 he had rallied all the southern militias and regular forces against the Jacobites who withdrew to northern Scotland.

    William Cavendish, 3rd Duke of Devonshire KG #550 appointed 1733. During the Jacobite rising of 1745 the Duke raised a militia unit in support of the King known as the Derbyshire Blues, which mustered at the George Inn, Derby, on 3 December 1745.

    Evelyn Pierrepont, 2nd Duke of Kingston-upon-Hull KG #557 1741 When the Jacobite rising of 1745 broke out he raised a regiment called "Kingston's light horse," which distinguished itself at the Battle of Culloden. The Duke attained the rank of general in the army


    Knights of the Garter - Jacobites

    Charles Edward Louis John Casimir Sylvester Severino Maria Stuart (Bonnie Prince Charlie) (Knight of the Garter) – ‘The Young Pretender’.

    James Francis Edward Stuart (Knight of the Garter). ‘The Old Pretender’.

    Charles ignored the advice of General Lord George Murray and chose to fight on flat, open, marshy ground where his forces would be exposed to superior government firepower. He commanded his army from a position behind his lines, where he could not see what was happening. He hoped that Cumberland's army would attack first, and he had his men stand exposed to the British Royal artillery. The Jacobite attack was uncoordinated, charging into withering musket fire and grapeshot fired from the cannons, and it met with little success.


    Knights of the Garter – Both Hanoverian and Jacobite Supporter?

    Richard Boyle, 3rd Earl of Burlington KG #548 appointed 1730. It has also been suggested that, despite apparently being a pillar of the Hanoverian establishment, Burlington covertly and treasonably engaged in Jacobite activities.


    Bonnie Prince Charlie - After Culloden

    Charles ultimately evaded capture and left the country aboard the French frigate L'Heureux, arriving in France in September. With the Jacobite cause lost, Charles spent the remainder of his life on the continent, except for one secret visit to London.

    Charles died in Rome of a stroke on 31 January 1788, aged 67. He was first buried in Frascati Cathedral near Rome, where his brother Henry Benedict Stuart was bishop. At Henry's death in 1807, Charles's remains (except his heart) were moved to the crypt of St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican where they were laid to rest next to those of his brother and his father near the monument to the Royal Stuarts. His mother is also buried in St. Peter's Basilica. His heart remained in Frascati Cathedral, where it is contained in a small urn beneath the floor under a monument.



    Coat of arms of ‘The Young Pretender’ in the Palazzo di San Clemente in Florence clearly displaying the Knights of the Garter motto – ‘Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense’.
    Last edited by Prince Arthur; 11-01-2019 at 10:51 AM. Reason: typos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Arthur View Post
    The Scots and the Irish were tricked at the very important and formative Battles of Culloden and the Boyne by the Knights of the Garter (English Order of Knights founded in Woodstock, Oxford in 1348).

    The Knights of the Garter controlled both sides of the warring factions....
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