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  1. #31
    Well, they were giants.

    But luckily we stumbled upon one of a kind previous generation leader in 2016 who by his own account is most giant (he used the term 'most Presidential') leader in US history since Lincoln. And his supporters seem to agree.





    So all is not lost. Who knows down the road we may see another future giant like Donald Jr as a national leader.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    It was?

    Show me where it states Grand Central Station was designed and built by Ghanan, Honduran and Pakistan migrants.
    It's probably not a winning argument to suggest that NYC, of all places, didn't rely heavily on immigrant labor to build much of the city. Other parts of the country, maybe, but NYC? Come on. I assume you consider the many Irish, Jewish and others that emigrated to NYC to be immigrants and not merely a distinction based on skin color.

    Not Grand Central specific but makes the point:
    https://ny.curbed.com/2018/2/26/1702...osario-candela
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    It's probably not a winning argument to suggest that NYC, of all places, didn't rely heavily on immigrant labor to build much of the city. Other parts of the country, maybe, but NYC? Come on. I assume you consider the many Irish, Jewish and others that emigrated to NYC to be immigrants and not merely a distinction based on skin color.

    Not Grand Central specific but makes the point:
    https://ny.curbed.com/2018/2/26/1702...osario-candela
    Culture and intelligence matter not skin color and bad as past excessive immigration was the new waves are worse.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Culture and intelligence matter not skin color and bad as past excessive immigration was the new waves are worse.
    I would like some objective sources that show recent immigrants lack the American ethic. All central American immigrants I know work hard.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCifelli1 View Post
    I would like some objective sources that show recent immigrants lack the American ethic. All central American immigrants I know work hard.
    63% of Non-Citizen Households Access Welfare Programs Compared to 35% of native households

    And their politics contributed to the government suffocation that delays or prevents or jacks up the cost of building anything:

    Illegal Migrants Come Here as Ready-made Democrats — Here’s Why

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    63% of Non-Citizen Households Access Welfare Programs Compared to 35% of native households

    And their politics contributed to the government suffocation that delays or prevents or jacks up the cost of building anything:

    Illegal Migrants Come Here as Ready-made Democrats ó Hereís Why
    That's a terribly misleading headline since the total amount of the 35% dwarfs the total amount of the 63%. And it's not even close. "Non-citizens" can't generally access welfare services, though their "citizen" children can, which is where the vast majority of that 63% figure comes from. In other words, if you aren't a sworn employee of the federal and state corporations (Citizen) we call "governments", you can't receive the benefits of the corporations, either.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post

    We have been fighting in Afghanistan without result for 18 years. Our forefathers helped to win World War II and defeat the Axis Powers in four years.
    Murica: taking credit for other people's work for 200+ years with style.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    That's a terribly misleading headline since the total amount of the 35% dwarfs the total amount of the 63%. And it's not even close. "Non-citizens" can't generally access welfare services, though their "citizen" children can, which is where the vast majority of that 63% figure comes from. In other words, if you aren't a sworn employee of the federal and state corporations (Citizen) we call "governments", you can't receive the benefits of the corporations, either.
    They cheat and the rates (it's the rates not the absolute numbers that matter) are actually worse than that because many of them use stolen native identities to collect.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Murica: taking credit for other people's work for 200+ years with style.
    How can you object when he used the word "helped"?
    I don't agree with the Russian line that just because they wasted more lives in human wave attacks they should get #1 credit but even if you do all it said is that we helped.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Murica: taking credit for other people's work for 200+ years with style.
    The quote said "helped." And if you don't think we "helped," in spades, then you don't know $#@! from Shinola.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    How can you object when he used the word "helped"?
    I don't agree with the Russian line that just because they wasted more lives in human wave attacks they should get #1 credit but even if you do all it said is that we helped.
    Just more jack-wagon jerk $#@! to disparage anything, and everything, done by Americans.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Just more jack-wagon jerk $#@! to disparage anything, and everything, done by Americans.
    Leftarians and anarchists tend to be anti-American.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Leftarians and anarchists tend to be anti-American.
    Had America not entered that war his beloved mother Russia would be shouting "Sieg Heil!" It was America's air power that won that war. No other European nation could match the Natzee's air superiority. It took the participation and determination of our entire nation to do so. But, when needed, America came through.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Had America not entered that war his beloved mother Russia would be shouting "Sieg Heil!" It was America's air power that won that war. No other European nation could match the Natzee's air superiority.
    Not to mention all the supplies and equipment we sent them.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Not to mention all the supplies and equipment we sent them.
    Certainly there is the treasure. But, there is also the blood. And though this generation of America hates the notion of our Republic, there are still those over there that remember, and honor our sacrifice.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Certainly there is the treasure. But, there is also the blood. And though this generation of America hates the notion of our Republic, there are still those over there that remember, and honor our sacrifice.


    And that calls for this:

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    See, it always boils down to race with the anti-immigration crowd. I didn't bring up race: you guys did. I gave you a chance to recognize that the same racist bull$#@! was said about Italians, Irish, Poles, and don't get me started on the Chinese (I shouldn't have to remind you two that they were the specified targets of the earliest immigration laws, which laws were passed a full century after the birth of the US).

    The non-Anglo Europeans that built Grand Central, the New York skyline, the railroads, and everything else that was great, absolutely were semi-literate, sub-IQ, wretched, and refuse. What they weren't, is particularly dark-skinned.

    The difference between the shoeless Italian people that emigrated here 120 years ago, and the ones who are coming over here today?
    Yesterday's Italians were presumed to be incapable of anything more complicated than mixing mortar,
    and today's Ghanans and Pakis are your nurses and computer programmers and small business owners.
    Which is why the most libertarian president ever, enacted the most stringent immigration controls ever, in 1924.

    Because he (Coolidge) understood, and the people of the time understood, that to continue to allow in anybody, from anywhere, anytime they feel like it, and you would lose the Republic.
    We must picture Hell as a state where everyone is perpetually concerned about his own dignity and advancement, where everyone has a grievance, and where everyone lives the deadly serious passions of envy, self-importance, and resentment. - C. S. Lewis

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    The quote said "helped." And if you don't think we "helped," in spades, then you don't know $#@! from Shinola.
    Helped, sure. But if you listen to *certain* folks tell the narrative you'd think Murikans went it virtually alone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RP Support me on Patreon here Ephesians 6:12



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Just more jack-wagon jerk $#@! to disparage anything, and everything, done by Americans. The State
    FIFY.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RP Support me on Patreon here Ephesians 6:12

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    FIFY.
    Nobody was talking about the state.
    But if that's what you thought was the subject then tell me if that includes the Russian state.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  25. #51
    The Poem:
    Nobody grows old by merely living a number of years.
    People grow old only by deserting their ideals.
    Years wrinkle the skin but to give up enthusiasm wrinkles
    the soul.

    Worry, doubt, self-distrust, fear and despair . . .
    these are the quick equivalents of the long years
    that bow the head and turn
    the growing spirit back to dust.

    Whether 70 or 16, there is, in every being’s heart the love of
    wonder, the sweet amazement of the stars, and the star-like
    things and thoughts, the undaunted challenge of events,
    the unfailing childlike appetite for “What Next?”

    You are as young as your faith, as old as your doubt,
    as young as your self-confidence, as old as your fear,
    as young as your hope, as old as your despair.

    So long as your heart receives messages of
    beauty, cheer, courage, grandeur and power from
    the earth, from man and from the Infinite, so long are you young.

    When all the wires are down, and all the
    central places of your heart are covered with
    the snows of pessimism and the ice of cynicism,
    then, and only then, are you grown old indeed,
    and may God have mercy on your soul.
    ..
    "The Patriarch"

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Certainly there is the treasure. But, there is also the blood. And though this generation of America hates the notion of our Republic, there are still those over there that remember, and honor our sacrifice.
    You mean 'their' sacrifice. And look what they did with that sacrifice. I guess it could be worse, we could all be speaking German, right?
    "The Patriarch"

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    You mean 'their' sacrifice.
    When discussing America and Russia it is "our", we are Americans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    And look what they did with that sacrifice.
    Shouldn't you have use "we" instead "they" for that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I guess it could be worse, we could all be speaking German, right?
    Or Japanese.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Had America not entered that war his beloved mother Russia would be shouting "Sieg Heil!" It was America's air power that won that war. No other European nation could match the Natzee's air superiority. It took the participation and determination of our entire nation to do so. But, when needed, America came through.
    If the US hadn't entered WWI, there would have been no WWII.

    WWI was basically a border war- we had no business being part of that except for helping the MIC. Germany was then blamed for the whole war & made to pay for everything- basically sending them into extreme poverty. Without our "intervention" there would have been no Hitler, no WWII, and all the aftermath that came from it.

    Think about that.
    There is no spoon.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    If the US hadn't entered WWI, there would have been no WWII.

    WWI was basically a border war- we had no business being part of that except for helping the MIC. Germany was then blamed for the whole war & made to pay for everything- basically sending them into extreme poverty. Without our "intervention" there would have been no Hitler, no WWII, and all the aftermath that came from it.

    Think about that.
    True but entirely irrelevant to the conversation.

    Unless you are just looking to bash America.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Had America not entered that war his beloved mother Russia would be shouting "Sieg Heil!" It was America's air power that won that war. No other European nation could match the Natzee's air superiority. It took the participation and determination of our entire nation to do so. But, when needed, America came through.
    You'd think Muricans would at least stop pretending to be the Stars Of The Show(TM), tho. The Soviets did the OVERWHELMING majority of dying in the European theatre. Americans are mostly alone in the world in thinking *they* won the war in Europe. The rest of the world rightly *primarily* credits the Soviets. #AmericanExceptionalismDelusion
    Last edited by heavenlyboy34; 10-15-2019 at 09:09 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RP Support me on Patreon here Ephesians 6:12



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    You'd think Muricans would at least stop pretending to be the Stars Of The Show(TM), tho. The Soviets did the OVERWHELMING majority of dying in the European theatre. Americans are mostly alone in the world in thinking *they* won the war in Europe. The rest of the world rightly *primarily* credits the Soviets. #AmericanExceptionalism
    We won the war in Europe while winning the war in the Pacific that the Soviet slackers refused to help with.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Well, they were giants.

    But luckily we stumbled upon one of a kind previous generation leader in 2016 who by his own account is most giant (he used the term 'most Presidential') leader in US history since Lincoln. And his supporters seem to agree.





    So all is not lost. Who knows down the road we may see another future giant like Donald Jr as a national leader.
    We should have a healthy contempt for Lincoln.

    A disgusting Yankee swine.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    True but entirely irrelevant to the conversation.

    Unless you are just looking to bash America.
    OMG- thought you were going to give a positive response - until the typical second sentence. LOL!

    And I was answering @phill4paul's comment.
    There is no spoon.

  35. #60
    I have been working here on this dilapidated house. My sister accompanied me. I have shown her that everything requires pride. You can dig a good hole or a useless one. You can stack wood effectively or throw it in a pile. You can put something where it can be stored for an extended period of time or move it a few feet and have to move it countless times because it is always in the way. People would call my way OCD tendency.

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