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    Trump Asks China to Join , uh, who was that?- In Investigating Political Rival

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

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    And is he using tax dollars to bribe them to do it? No?

    That begs the question: So?
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    We could pay off the debt with the money raised from live broadcast executions.

    Be just like 1984. Truckloads of em, people betting on which one gets shot first, all sorts of fun stuff
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    And is he using tax dollars to bribe them to do it? No?

    That begs the question: So?
    Asking for foreign help in a US election is not legal. Whether or not it is financed with taxpayer dollars.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Asking for foreign help in a US election is not legal. Whether or not it is financed with taxpayer dollars.
    Another lie. I'm sure you know the law but still misrepresent it in order to satisfy your derangement.

    Hillary Clinton literally hired a foreign spy, to go to Russia, and get dirt on Trump from Russians. But you don't care.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Asking for foreign help in a US election is not legal. Whether or not it is financed with taxpayer dollars.
    He didn't solicit anything. He only proffered unsolicited advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    Another lie. I'm sure you know the law but still misrepresent it in order to satisfy your derangement.

    Hillary Clinton literally hired a foreign spy, to go to Russia, and get dirt on Trump from Russians. But you don't care.
    That doesn't make it a lie. Yes, he misrepresented what Trump said. But the fact that Hillary Clinton did something is a long, long, long way from proof that something is legal.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 10-03-2019 at 11:57 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    We could pay off the debt with the money raised from live broadcast executions.

    Be just like 1984. Truckloads of em, people betting on which one gets shot first, all sorts of fun stuff
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Some other countries including Australia was allegedly contacted for help also:


    Trump pushed Australian prime minister Morrison to help gather information against Mueller inquiry
    Revelations come as polls show majority of Americans support impeachment
    That would have no effect on any upcoming elections.
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    We could pay off the debt with the money raised from live broadcast executions.

    Be just like 1984. Truckloads of em, people betting on which one gets shot first, all sorts of fun stuff
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    That would have no effect on any upcoming elections.
    That is true.

    It was in context of a foreign interactions related topic that is directly linked to the so called 'election interference' topic, have edited above post to add that news link also.



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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    That is true.

    It was in context of a foreign interactions related topic that is directly linked to the so called 'election interference' topic, have edited above post to add that news link also.
    I wasn't implying it had no place in the thread. I was just trying to spare RWTDS sufferers some strain on their cardiac systems.
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    We could pay off the debt with the money raised from live broadcast executions.

    Be just like 1984. Truckloads of em, people betting on which one gets shot first, all sorts of fun stuff
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Asking for foreign help in a US election is not legal. Whether or not it is financed with taxpayer dollars.
    Asking for foreign help to investigate crimes and corruption is legal. Being a political candidate doesn't give you a prophylactic protection against investigation.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Asking for foreign help in a US election is not legal. Whether or not it is financed with taxpayer dollars.
    Is this what your grandma Hillary says?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Asking for foreign help to investigate crimes and corruption is legal. Being a political candidate doesn't give you a prophylactic protection against investigation.
    What other corruption not involving a political opponent has he called for an investigation into?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    George W. Bush appointed head of the Federal Election Commission responded to Trump on Twitter (she retweeted a post from June):

    (the FEC can't do anything though- they are required to have four vote to take actions- and there are currently only three members on the Commission).



    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 10-03-2019 at 01:57 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    The irony of crooks and criminals who write the laws...... then break them with abandon on a daily basis...... quoting what is "legal" and "illegal" is duplicity and hypocrisy in action.

    What a clown show
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect - Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    The irony of crooks and criminals who write the laws...... then break them with abandon on a daily basis...... quoting what is "legal" and "illegal" is duplicity and hypocrisy in action.

    What a clown show
    Irony is Trump's sons going on TV to criticize Biden nepotism. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-ukraine-china
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Asking for foreign help in a US election is not legal. Whether or not it is financed with taxpayer dollars.
    I didn't hear anyone "ask" for anything. I heard the words and terms like "I would think" and "recommend" and "If I was....".

    I hate Trump...but the idea that people are more angry at suggesting people who may have committed crimes BE investigated for them is the epitome of partisan bull$#@! of the highest order.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect - Mark Twain



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Irony is Trump's sons going on TV to criticize Biden nepotism. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-ukraine-china
    Nope the irony is that they could have investigated and have investigated Trump and his family business dealings with Russia and nobody called for any impeachment


    Clown Show.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect - Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    George W. Bush appointed head of the Federal Election Commission responded to Trump on Twitter (she retweeted a post from June):

    (the FEC can't do anything though- they are required to have four vote to take actions- and there are currently only three members on the Commission).



    Upholding the law by calling for investigations into foreign influence is exactly what Trump is doing.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    What other corruption not involving a political opponent has he called for an investigation into?
    Hillary's server over at CrowdStrike. That was what he asked for first. In the same call.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Hillary's server over at CrowdStrike. That was what he asked for first. In the same call.
    Which is why she is going to run, so she can get some of that "political opponent" immunity from punishment for her crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Hillary's server over at CrowdStrike. That was what he asked for first. In the same call.
    He never mentions Clinton. And it wasn't about her server.

    Right after President Donald Trump asked the president of Ukraine "do us a favor," Trump made an unexplained reference to a computer server.

    "I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike," Trump said during his July 25 call with Volodymyr Zelensky. "I guess you have one of your wealthy people. The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation."
    He does ramble random things, doesn't he? Anyhow, Crowdstrike was Russians (or was it Romainans?) hacking a DNC server (which was not in the Ukraine) and not Clinton.

    Crowdstrike is an American cybersecurity firm that aims to safeguard its clients from cyberattacks. In May 2016, the Democratic National Committee hired Crowdstrike after it began to suspect that its servers had been breached.

    The firm found that two groups of Russian hackers had infiltrated DNC servers for about a year, giving them access to emails and opposition research about Trump. Crowdstrike then kicked the hackers off the servers.

    Then, a Romanian hacker named Guccifer 2.0 claimed credit for the cyberattack and leaked DNC emails to the American press. WikiLeaks also claimed it had emails from Clinton, with Guccifer being its source.
    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...y-during-his-/
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 10-03-2019 at 03:31 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    What other corruption not involving a political opponent has he called for an investigation into?
    That's a red herring, he can't and doesn't have to investigate all crimes all the time.
    If a political opponent commits a crime and there is probable cause then they make themselves vulnerable to investigation and it isn't illegal to investigate them.
    You can't read Trump's mind and even if you could his motive can't make a mandatory duty an illegal act, personal political advantage serves the public interest in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That's a red herring, he can't and doesn't have to investigate all crimes all the time.
    If a political opponent commits a crime and there is probable cause then they make themselves vulnerable to investigation and it isn't illegal to investigate them.
    You can't read Trump's mind and even if you could his motive can't make a mandatory duty an illegal act, personal political advantage serves the public interest in this case.
    So you can't name one. That makes it much more likely that Biden was selected because he was a political opponent of Trump, not his concern about corruption in a foreign country (how does that fit with "America First" anyways- telling other countries what they should do?)
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    So you can't name one.
    I didn't say that, you are trying to make us talk about your red herring.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    That makes it much more likely that Biden was selected because he was a political opponent of Trump, not his concern about corruption in a foreign country
    No it doesn't and that wouldn't matter anyway.
    It's much more likely that Biden is running for office so he can try to hide behind the claim that Trump is only investigating him because he is an opponent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    (how does that fit with "America First" anyways- telling other countries what they should do?)
    It's called diplomacy and looking out for the interests of America as well as those of the other country.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's much more likely that Biden is running for office so he can try to hide behind the claim that Trump is only investigating him because he is an opponent.

    So Biden announced he is running for office AFTER Trump accused him of corruption? You do just make up a lot of things, don't you?

    The B-team must be working that account today.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    So Biden announced he is running for office AFTER Trump accused him of corruption? You do just make up a lot of things, don't you?

    The B-team must be working that account today.
    Biden knew full well how corrupt he had been and how open he had been about it, he also knew that Trump was going to get around to investigating the left to please his base so he preemptively ran for office even though he is way too old.

    Don't play dumb.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Biden knew full well how corrupt he had been and how open he had been about it, he also knew that Trump was going to get around to investigating the left to please his base so he preemptively ran for office even though he is way too old.

    Don't play dumb.
    LOL! "I'm going to run for office like I did last time just in case Trump decides to investigate me!"
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 10-03-2019 at 03:49 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    LOL! "I'm going to run for office like I did last time just in case Trump decides to investigate me!"
    He didn't run last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    He didn't run last time.
    Thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    He didn't run last time.
    Zippy doesn't need facts, he has his "truth".
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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