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I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.
Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
He didn't solicit anything. He only proffered unsolicited advice.
That doesn't make it a lie. Yes, he misrepresented what Trump said. But the fact that Hillary Clinton did something is a long, long, long way from proof that something is legal.
Some other countries including Australia were allegedly contacted also:
Trump pushed Australian prime minister Morrison to help gather information against Mueller inquiry
Revelations come as polls show majority of Americans support impeachment
India’s prime minister accused of “interfering” in the next US presidential election
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"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
George W. Bush appointed head of the Federal Election Commission responded to Trump on Twitter (she retweeted a post from June):
(the FEC can't do anything though- they are required to have four vote to take actions- and there are currently only three members on the Commission).
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 10-03-2019 at 01:57 PM.
The irony of crooks and criminals who write the laws...... then break them with abandon on a daily basis...... quoting what is "legal" and "illegal" is duplicity and hypocrisy in action.
What a clown show
Irony is Trump's sons going on TV to criticize Biden nepotism. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-ukraine-china
I didn't hear anyone "ask" for anything. I heard the words and terms like "I would think" and "recommend" and "If I was....".
I hate Trump...but the idea that people are more angry at suggesting people who may have committed crimes BE investigated for them is the epitome of partisan bull$#@! of the highest order.
I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.
Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
He never mentions Clinton. And it wasn't about her server.
He does ramble random things, doesn't he? Anyhow, Crowdstrike was Russians (or was it Romainans?) hacking a DNC server (which was not in the Ukraine) and not Clinton.Right after President Donald Trump asked the president of Ukraine "do us a favor," Trump made an unexplained reference to a computer server.
"I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike," Trump said during his July 25 call with Volodymyr Zelensky. "I guess you have one of your wealthy people. The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation."
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...y-during-his-/Crowdstrike is an American cybersecurity firm that aims to safeguard its clients from cyberattacks. In May 2016, the Democratic National Committee hired Crowdstrike after it began to suspect that its servers had been breached.
The firm found that two groups of Russian hackers had infiltrated DNC servers for about a year, giving them access to emails and opposition research about Trump. Crowdstrike then kicked the hackers off the servers.
Then, a Romanian hacker named Guccifer 2.0 claimed credit for the cyberattack and leaked DNC emails to the American press. WikiLeaks also claimed it had emails from Clinton, with Guccifer being its source.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 10-03-2019 at 03:31 PM.
That's a red herring, he can't and doesn't have to investigate all crimes all the time.
If a political opponent commits a crime and there is probable cause then they make themselves vulnerable to investigation and it isn't illegal to investigate them.
You can't read Trump's mind and even if you could his motive can't make a mandatory duty an illegal act, personal political advantage serves the public interest in this case.
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So you can't name one. That makes it much more likely that Biden was selected because he was a political opponent of Trump, not his concern about corruption in a foreign country (how does that fit with "America First" anyways- telling other countries what they should do?)
I didn't say that, you are trying to make us talk about your red herring.
No it doesn't and that wouldn't matter anyway.
It's much more likely that Biden is running for office so he can try to hide behind the claim that Trump is only investigating him because he is an opponent.
It's called diplomacy and looking out for the interests of America as well as those of the other country.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
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