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    President Trump is modern day Abraham Lincoln

    Civil War: President Trump is modern day 'Abraham Lincoln'

    Dems may rush to dismiss 'civil war' analogies by him but MAGA and his supporters seem to see him as modern day Abe Lincoln, and their claim may not be entirely without merit considering his strong record already on civil rights, global campaign against anti-semitism, LGBTQ rights, gun control, prison reform, support for inter racial romance/anti anti-White Slace act, threats to Sweden for immediate release of Somali-America rapper Rocky A$AP, hosting Vann Jones at CPAC 2019, minority housing opportunities investments via Kushner, his administration labeling recent gun shootings as 'white terrorism', DACA, NAFTA 2.0 and list of his bold record is still growing.
    MAGA very likely sees himself wining this 'civil war' just as his hero Abe Lincoln won in the last one.

    One of Trump's geatest heroes is civil war icon Abe Lincoln and Trump sees himself as the greatest leader since Lincoln.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNvWO75KQnM

    At ADL, Rod Rosenstein praises Trump — and extols those who defend the rule of law
    By Ron Kampeas May 7, 2018
    WASHINGTON (JTA) — Rod Rosenstein came to the annual conference of the Anti-Defamation League with plaudits for Donald Trump despite being at the center of the president’s contentious relationship with his Justice Department.
    He extolled Trump’s call for unity in the wake of the Charlottesville white supremacist rally in August that turned deadly and compared him to Abraham Lincoln.
    https://www.jta.org/2018/05/07/polit...rtyrs-rule-law



    Dinesh D’Souza Compares Donald Trump to Abraham Lincoln








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    Trump is George Washington, and altgother his own because he never needed wealth of office like the piece of $#@! before him
    It was too weird to live, and too rare to die - hunter s. thompson .
    ..this is the darkest timeline..

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    While GW may have been a bold leader also but unlike Lincoln and Trump, he apparently owned slaves and was not really involved in the kind of civil wars that Lincoln and Trump may have faced. He was strong on civil liberties but his civil rights record is not as clear as that of Lincoln or MAGA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    While GW may have been a bold leader also but unlike Lincoln and Trump, he apparently owned slaves and was not really involved in the kind of civil wars that Lincoln and Trump may have faced. He was strong on civil liberties but his civil rights record is not as clear as that of Lincoln or MAGA.
    a lot of people will hate me for this. Donald Trump has proven himself to be one of the greatest if not greatest president the united states has ever seen through and through for decisions, leadership and character AS a president. Potentially the last president we ever have , before a full blown dictatorship
    It was too weird to live, and too rare to die - hunter s. thompson .
    ..this is the darkest timeline..

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    While GW may have been a bold leader also but unlike Lincoln and Trump, he apparently owned slaves and was not really involved in the kind of civil wars that Lincoln and Trump may have faced. He was strong on civil liberties but his civil rights record is not as clear as that of Lincoln or MAGA.
    Your constant use of MAGA when referring to POTUS indicates you might not be happy with the present occupant of the White House. Who would you rather see there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    While GW may have been a bold leader also but unlike Lincoln and Trump, he apparently owned slaves and was not really involved in the kind of civil wars that Lincoln and Trump may have faced. He was strong on civil liberties but his civil rights record is not as clear as that of Lincoln or MAGA.
    Lincoln trashed everyone's civil rights and the fact that GW inherited slaves in a system that was set up long before he was born doesn't make Lincoln better than him, GW sought to end slavery while Lincoln offered to preserve it until it was politically advantageous.

    Take your leftist garbage elsewhere.

    And the Revolution was absolutely a species of civil war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    a lot of people will hate me for this. Donald Trump has proven himself to be one of the greatest if not greatest president the united states has ever seen through and through for decisions, leadership and character AS a president. Potentially the last president we ever have , before a full blown dictatorship
    To the contrary, you may get lot of praise also from MAGA supporters who incidentally himself implied that he's more Presidential than George Wshington and ALL the other Presidents (except his hero late great Abe Lincoln):


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNvWO75KQnM

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    Someone's sarcasm meter needs recalibrating..
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken



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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Your constant use of MAGA when referring to POTUS indicates you might not be happy with the present occupant of the White House. Who would you rather see there?
    Being critical in some areas and applaud his strengths in other areas. MAGA is easier to spell and is synonymous with him now, I would use DTS also but may cause confusion.

    It's not about any individuals, I'd probably find something to be critical about regardless of who's in the White House.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Lincoln trashed everyone's civil rights and the fact that GW inherited slaves in a system that was set up long before he was born doesn't make Lincoln better than him, GW sought to end slavery while Lincoln offered to preserve it until it was politically advantageous.
    Are you mplying POTUS was lying when he called Abe Lincon a great leader? Or are you implying he's more ingnorant or foolish than you?

    I can't think of a third possibility if your claim is not fakenews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    Potentially the last president we ever have , before a full blown dictatorship
    Populism is the stalking horse of fascism.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    The way he talks about what he thinks should be done to those who dissent from him definitely echoes the actions Lincoln took against those who dissented from him.

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    Not even close to lincoln. Get back with me when armies are being raised in the street and he deports the dem speaker ( I would not want to miss that last one ).
    Last edited by oyarde; 10-02-2019 at 06:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Not even close to lincoln. Get back with me when armies are being raised in the street and he deports the dem speaker.
    He clearly isn't as capable as Lincoln. But he seems to aspire to that level of power. He admires powerful leaders who do those kinds of things, and I'm sure that those are precisely the aspects of Lincoln's regime that Trump is thinking of when he calls him presidential. His followers often share these views, as evidenced by the way they throw words like "treason" around.

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    I love these proclamations by boobus Americanus quasi intellectual spunk tards. How in the hell did these people get to power?

    I'm sure if I wait long enough I'm going to see one that compares him to Ron Paul. A few Trump Nut suckers on this site have made such claims.
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever..... just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    He clearly isn't as capable as Lincoln. But he seems to aspire to that level of power. He admires powerful leaders who do those kinds of things, and I'm sure that those are precisely the aspects of Lincoln's regime that Trump is thinking of when he calls him presidential. His followers often share these views, as evidenced by the way they throw words like "treason" around.
    He may eventually work himself up to a John Adams Dix level ( Sec of Treas who arrested the maryland legislature ) . Be more fun for me personally , not sure about others.



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    I highly doubt Trump has ever done his research on Lincoln. If he did, he'd realize just how much of a tyrant he actually was.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I highly doubt Trump has ever done his research on Lincoln. If he did, he'd realize just how much of a tyrant he actually was.
    I also highly doubt that he has ever done much in the way of researching any historical person. But if he did know how much of a tyrant Lincoln was, all available evidence suggests that that would make him admire Lincoln all the more.

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    Lincoln was a war criminal, and would have been tried as such if the south had won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    The way he talks about what he thinks should be done to those who dissent from him definitely echoes the actions Lincoln took against those who dissented from him.
    Bold leaders appear weak if they don't strong actions against their foes.
    Both cared about public/media perceptions if I'm not mistaken.

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    I don't get enhanced_deficit's threads every time, but this one is golden. The replies are killer b.
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    Populism is the stalking horse of fascism.
    Trump is not a populist. he is a patriot, with imperfect ideas, but an american through and through at the end of the day
    It was too weird to live, and too rare to die - hunter s. thompson .
    ..this is the darkest timeline..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    Trump is not a populist. he is a patriot, with imperfect ideas, but an american through and through at the end of the day
    Oh, no, he's not a populist. And neither were George Wallace and Huey P. Long.

    In fact, there's no such thing as a populist. Populists are mythical, like fairies and unicorns.

    Why are you acting like 'populist' and 'patriot' are somehow contradictory? Populists have been patriots, or acted like patriots, for as long as patriotism has been popular. And they will be patriots, or act like patriots, for as long as patriotism remains popular.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 10-03-2019 at 08:44 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Lol, wow, Anthony Weiner, too?



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    If Abe Lincon's civil war was taking place in present era, we would very likely be seeing Abe Lincoln, MAGA and his donors, liberal rising star Cory Booker and his donors all fighting boldly on the same side as a team.






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    By TRACY WILKINSON June 25, 1990
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    After feverish and failed negotiations with everyone from the U.S. government to private charter operators, the unlikely benefactor has turned out to be none other than Donald Trump.
    Mandela and the approximately 80 people traveling with him arrived here Sunday in a Trump Shuttle 727 and will take the same plane on the rest of the tour, which ends in Los Angeles and Oakland late this week. The Trump shuttle also carried Mandela from New York to Boston on Saturday.
    Christine Dolan, who handled logistics for the trip, said that organizers, desperate to find a plane in time for Mandela’s arrival in the United States last Wednesday, contacted Trump seeking to rent his private jet. He responded that it was being serviced and unavailable but offered to release a 727 from his shuttle fleet, Dolan said.
    “The Mandela Welcoming Committee is very thankful to Donald Trump,” Dolan said.
    latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-06-25-mn-471-story.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    Trump is not a populist. he is a patriot, with imperfect ideas, but an american through and through at the end of the day
    That is a strong statement.

    On a related note, what are your views about top donor of his 2016 election campaign, respected globalist neoconservative Sheldon Adelson vizavee 'follow the money' doctrine? Do you view his top donor as an America-Firster patriot also?

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    Besides showig bold leadership at at home, MAGA is continuing to raise his stature on globalist stage also with a new global order in mideast to rearrange Syrian, Turkish, Israeli, Kurdish, Palestinian dynamics among others. Perhaps not just modern day Abraham Lincoln wrt 'civil war' at home but for various civil wars in foreign countries also. Credit goes to both MAGA and rest of GOPA leadership.

    US, Turkey launch joint patrols in planned Syria 'safe zone'

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    That's an insult to Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    That's an insult to Trump.
    That's the point.

    But notice that Trump is the source.

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