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    UK Supreme Court rules suspension parliament unlawful

    Eleven justices of the UK's highest court ruled today that Queen Elzabeth’s suspension of Parliament on the “advice” of PM Boris Johnson is unlawful and therefore void so that Parliament had not been prorogued.

    Several MPs have already returned to Parliament: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a4244561.html
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    Zippy will be pleased. Boris now has to leave New York early to make Parliament. He'll have jet lag too.

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    The UK is going to collapse soon thanks to their "unwritten" Constitution.

    Their judges are now making political judgements.

    Boris should launch a military coup if he can get the support he would need from the military.
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    The PM said he "profoundly disagreed" with the ruling but would "respect" it.
    A raft of MPs have now called for the prime minister to resign and some say they will attempt to force him out if he does not go of his accord.


    During a speech in New York, the PM said he "refused to be deterred" from getting on with "an exciting and dynamic domestic agenda", and to do that he would need a Queen's Speech.
    The court ruling does not prevent him from proroguing again in order to hold one, as long as it does not stop Parliament carrying out its duties "without reasonable justification".
    A No 10 source said the Supreme Court had "made a serious mistake in extending its reach to these political matters", and had "made it clear that its reasons [were] connected to the Parliamentary disputes over, and timetable for" Brexit.


    Reacting to the ruling, Mr Johnson said it was an "unusual judgement", adding: "The prerogative of prorogation has been used for centuries without this kind of challenge.
    "There are a lot of people who basically want to stop this country from coming out of the EU and we have a Parliament that is unable to be prorogued and doesn't want to have an election. I think it is time we took things forward."
    The PM said getting a deal was "not made much easier with these sort of things in Parliament or the courts", but insisted the UK would still leave on 31 October.


    The leader of The Brexit Party, Nigel Farage, said Mr Johnson must, "as a matter of honour", offer his resignation to MPs in Parliament on Wednesday.
    The decision to prorogue Parliament had been a "disaster", he added, and there must be a general election "before very long because Parliament and the government have ceased to function".

    More at: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49810261
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    The Telegraph reports that there will be a three-line whip at Wednesday's first session Parliament in two weeks because the feeling in the whip's office is that Labour will table a vote of no confidence in Boris Johnson. Meanwhile, Johnson once again said on Tuesday that the UK needs a general election. The odds of parliament voting for an election are definitely climbing.
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    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...l-pound-climbs
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The Telegraph reports that there will be a three-line whip at Wednesday's first session Parliament in two weeks because the feeling in the whip's office is that Labour will table a vote of no confidence in Boris Johnson. Meanwhile, Johnson once again said on Tuesday that the UK needs a general election. The odds of parliament voting for an election are definitely climbing.
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    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...l-pound-climbs
    The whip is for the 'DEAL' Boris is trying to get. He's going to ram it through Parliament. Farage says this is his plan and he will fight him over it.

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    Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn told his party’s annual convention he wants a general election, but only after the threat of a no-deal exit from the EU on Oct. 31 is off the table.

    The opposition Labour Party will refuse to back a recess next week for the Conservative Party’s annual conference unless the premier requests a delay to Brexit from Brussels.
    Party Leader Jeremy Corbyn held talks on Tuesday with opposition leaders to discuss the next steps, his office said, adding that Labour doesn’t plan to trigger a no-confidence vote in Boris Johnson’s government in the next two days. Labour also said that for now, the priority is to ensure steps are taken to lock in a delay to Brexit. It would then seek to secure an early general election.
    Labour said it will use whatever mechanisms available to hold Johnson to account, and reiterated Corbyn’s call for the prime minster to resign.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/johnson-press...085301567.html
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    Brexit illegal campaign financing

    I´ve earlier posted on the fact that Brexit was orchestrated by the Queen Elizabeth controlled SCL Group to keep the UK the money laundering paradise of the world:
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter
    In 2015, Arron Banks’ insurance business Southern Rock was bailed out, just months before Banks began bankrolling the Leave.EU referendum campaign to which he donated £8.4 million.
    One of the 2 campaign vehicles that received Banks’ £8.4 millions, Better for the Country Ltd, was set up by STM.

    If Southern Rock Insurance had gone bankrupt this could have made Banks’ UK insurance broker Eldon collapse.
    Regulators made Southern Rock promise not to make any payments to Banks without their prior written consent. After in 2014 PwC concluded that Southern Rock wasn’t a healthy company, Banks had to resign as CEO, with his longstanding associate Alan Kentish (another Southern Rock director).
    Banks’ ties to Kentish and STM go back to at least 2004, when Kentish became a founding director of Southern Rock. Banks invested in STM and became its largest shareholder before selling his stake in early 2015. More recently, Kentish, Banks and another STM founder invested in Legal Protection Group, a broker of insurance for lawyers and doctors.

    ICS Risk Solutions, a holding company on the Isle of Man, pumped £77.7 million into Southern Rock to save it from collapse. Banks owned both ICS and Southern Rock; it is not clear where the money came from.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6699716


    In September 2018, the High Court ruled that Vote Leave had broken the law by overspending. It did this by illegally paying £625,000 to Darren Grimes for his BeLeave campaign, mostly through the Canada-based AggregateIQ, partner of the notorious SCL Group.
    In July 2018, the Electoral Commission had already ruled that Vote Leave broke electoral law by colluding with Grimes. It appears that the police investigation was stopped from some reason.

    In February 2019 the Leave.EU campaign, fronted by Nigel Farage and Eldon Insurance, and owned by Arron Banks, were fined £60,000 each for breaking direct marketing rules: http://archive.is/WiPkS


    For some reason the police investigation into multiple criminal offences by Arron Banks and the Leave.EU campaign was stopped.

    The Remain campaign was forced to stop its digital advertising on the last day of the June 2016 campaign because it had reached its spending limit but Vote Leave continued, breaking the law after reaching it spending limit 2 days before the vote.

    According to Professor Philip Howard:
    My professional opinion is that it is very likely that the excessive spending by Vote Leave altered the result of the referendum.

    A swing of just 634,751 people would have been enough to secure victory for Remain.

    Given the scale of the online advertising achieved with the excess spending, combined with conservative estimates on voter modelling, I estimate that Vote Leave converted the voting intentions of over 800,000 voters in the final days of the campaign as a result of the overspend.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8668771.html
    (http://archive.is/qYo8X)


    In the following video lawyer Jessica Simor explains that the Brexit referendum was unlawful because of the conclusion by the Electoral Commission on breaking the law by Vote Leave. The only reason that the referendum wasn´t declared invalid based on by the Electoral Commission findings of overspending is because it’s only “advisory”.
    The Court of Appeal denied permission to appeal against the Brexit referendum because this could only have been done within 3 months after the expenses had been lodged at the Electoral Commission in December 2016: https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...result-stands/


    Arron Banks funded Better for the Country with £6 million in donations funnelled through Leave.EU, and an additional £2 million in loans, of which £2.9 million was spent on funding the Brexit campaign of Leave.EU and other pro-Brexit groups.
    Only companies registered in the UK were allowed to make campaign donations. Because the money was channelled through an “impermissible” company called Rock Holdings Limited, which is registered in the Isle of Man tax haven it´s not clear where Arron Banks got the money: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8612331.html


    In one of those strange coincidences, the half-brother of Boris, Max Johnson, is advising investors to profit from the sterling’s weakness (caused by the Brexit hysteria) to scoop up assets in the UK. The pound sterling has fallen 11.7% since the referendum in June 2016 and 6.2% against the US dollar in the past 6 months.
    In China, Max Johnson advised investors to buy British properties and products as the pound is worth only some 8.5 yuan today, compared to 15 in 2007: https://www.scmp.com/business/bankin...rexit-strategy
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    Arron Banks has been cleared of any wrong doing:

    Brexit: 'No evidence' of crimes by Leave.EU and Arron Banks

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49807401

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn told his party’s annual convention he wants a general election, but only after the threat of a no-deal exit from the EU on Oct. 31 is off the table.

    The opposition Labour Party will refuse to back a recess next week for the Conservative Party’s annual conference unless the premier requests a delay to Brexit from Brussels.
    Party Leader Jeremy Corbyn held talks on Tuesday with opposition leaders to discuss the next steps, his office said, adding that Labour doesn’t plan to trigger a no-confidence vote in Boris Johnson’s government in the next two days. Labour also said that for now, the priority is to ensure steps are taken to lock in a delay to Brexit. It would then seek to secure an early general election.
    Labour said it will use whatever mechanisms available to hold Johnson to account, and reiterated Corbyn’s call for the prime minster to resign.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/johnson-press...085301567.html
    So Johnson may get that election he wants.
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