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    The abolitionist movement was spearheaded by the church. Look it up.
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  3. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman, that is the definition.
    Neither you nor religion has a copyright on the definition of "marriage". In a legal sense (in this country) it refers to any union of two people that the government recognizes and that has certain legal consequences. Too bad if it gets your knickers in a wad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Nobody called for legal enforcement of religious prohibitions.
    You were using the fact that the Old Testament condemns homosexual conduct as a reason for society to condemn it. Should society condemn all of the other things the Bible prohibits? Or will you cherry-pick?
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
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  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Neither you nor religion has a copyright on the definition of "marriage". In a legal sense (in this country) it refers to any union of two people that the government recognizes and that has certain legal consequences. Too bad if it gets your knickers in a wad.
    You don't get to change the definition, mankind has always defined it as a relationship between a man and a woman.




    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    You were using the fact that the Old Testament condemns homosexual conduct as a reason for society to condemn it. Should society condemn all of the other things the Bible prohibits? Or will you cherry-pick?
    Society should condemn all things that destroy civilization.
    Society should also culturally enforce the religious rules of the dominant religion, in America that is Christianity.
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  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Neither you nor religion has a copyright on the definition of "marriage". In a legal sense (in this country) it refers to any union of two people that the government recognizes and that has certain legal consequences.
    Actually, many folks here do not think the federal government should be sanctioning relationships. It isn’t a government invention. It’s not in the Constitution.
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  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You don't get to change the definition, mankind has always defined it as a relationship between a man and a woman.
    Perhaps it's been defined that way in a religious context. But the definition in a legal context can always be changed so long as it's consistent with the Constitution.

    Really, what difference does it make if you call it a "marriage" or a "legal union"? Your "the sky is falling!" paranoia makes no sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Society should condemn all things that destroy civilization.
    And you've provided absolutely no proof that allowing gays to marry will destroy civilization, only empty hand-wringing, wailing, and gnashing of teeth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Society should also culturally enforce the religious rules of the dominant religion, in America that is Christianity.
    So you want a cultural theocracy? Well, first off, you'll need to decide which flavor of Christianity is to be culturally enforced. Should people who dance or have instrumental music in church be shunned? Should folks who drink alcohol be ostracized? Should pro sports be boycotted because games are played on Sunday? For that matter, should all businesses who dare to be open on Sunday be boycotted? Should law firmss in Massachusetts or New Mexico who do divorce work be boycotted (Catholicism is the majority religion in those States)? How far do you want to take this?
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
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  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Perhaps it's been defined that way in a religious context. But the definition in a legal context can always be changed so long as it's consistent with the Constitution.
    Wrong, Congress could define a cat as a dog but that wouldn't make it so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Really, what difference does it make if you call it a "marriage" or a "legal union"? Your "the sky is falling!" paranoia makes no sense.
    The difference is cultural and moral.



    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    And you've provided absolutely no proof that allowing gays to marry will destroy civilization, only empty hand-wringing, wailing, and gnashing of teeth.
    The proof is all around us, they are now trying to force everyone else to accept them and an ever wider group of perverts, pedophilia is already being pushed as normal and small children are being mutilated and poisoned to make them "trans".
    It won't stop here either.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    So you want a cultural theocracy? Well, first off, you'll need to decide which flavor of Christianity is to be culturally enforced. Should people who dance or have instrumental music in church be shunned? Should folks who drink alcohol be ostracized? Should pro sports be boycotted because games are played on Sunday? For that matter, should all businesses who dare to be open on Sunday be boycotted? Should law firmss in Massachusetts or New Mexico who do divorce work be boycotted (Catholicism is the majority religion in those States)? How far do you want to take this?
    As long as it remains cultural the community will decide how far it will go and the most extreme and stupid probably won't get much traction, if there is much of a difference between large groups there will be parallel societies.
    Freedom works and so does morality, perversion brings destruction and tyranny.
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Actually, many folks here do not think the federal government should be sanctioning relationships. It isn’t a government invention. It’s not in the Constitution.
    Aside from the District of Columbia (which Congress has exclusive authority over, per the Constitution), the federal government doesn't sanction relationships in the sense of legislating marriage rules; the States do. But the 14th Amendment is part of the Constitution, and when a State denies same-sex couples the same ability to have legal relationships that it provides to opposite-sex couples, it violates the Equal Protection Clause.

    Congress is also prohibited from that kind of discrimination. In a case that preceded its gay-marriage decision, the Supreme Court held that it was unconstitutional for the federal government to deny an estate tax marital deduction to the survivor of a same-sex marriage that was legal under the law of the state in which the couple lived. In other words, the federal government couldn't refuse to recognize the legal same-sex marriage.
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
    Anonymous

  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Aside from the District of Columbia (which Congress has exclusive authority over, per the Constitution), the federal government doesn't sanction relationships in the sense of legislating marriage rules; the States do. But the 14th Amendment is part of the Constitution, and when a State denies same-sex couples the same ability to have legal relationships that it provides to opposite-sex couples, it violates the Equal Protection Clause.

    Congress is also prohibited from that kind of discrimination. In a case that preceded its gay-marriage decision, the Supreme Court held that it was unconstitutional for the federal government to deny an estate tax marital deduction to the survivor of a same-sex marriage that was legal under the law of the state in which the couple lived. In other words, the federal government couldn't refuse to recognize the legal same-sex marriage.
    There is no violation of the equal protection clause.
    Would it be a violation to not recognize Caligula's marriage to his horse?
    Would it be a violation to not recognize Mohammed's marriage to a 6 year old?

    All persons are treated equally if the enter into a marriage with a member of the opposite sex which is the definition of marriage that ALL cultures have had throughout history, even those that embraced qweers like the ancient Greeks.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    As long as it remains cultural the community will decide how far it will go
    Considering that the latest polls show that a majority of Americans are in favor of gay marriage, it certainly won't go as far as you want it to.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/257705/...ge-stable.aspx

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public..._United_States
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
    Anonymous

  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Considering that the latest polls show that a majority of Americans are in favor of gay marriage, it certainly won't go as far as you want it to.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/257705/...ge-stable.aspx

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public..._United_States
    A: LOL at polls, the liberal media manipulate them to death
    B: We need a spiritual awakening in America or our culture will die and our country will be destroyed, that's the point of this thread.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  13. #131
    On Tuesday, a British court ruled that belief in the Bible was “incompatible with human dignity.”

    That statement came in a case involving Dr. David Mackereth, a devout Christian who had worked as an emergency doctor for the National Health Service for 26 years. He said he was fired from his job because he refused to call a biological man a woman. The court’s ruling stated: “Belief in Genesis 1:27, lack of belief in transgenderism and conscientious objection to transgenderism in our judgment are incompatible with human dignity and conflict with the fundamental rights of others, specifically here, transgender individuals.” The court added. “… in so far as those beliefs form part of his wider faith, his wider faith also does not satisfy the requirement of being worthy of respect in a democratic society, not incompatible with human dignity and not in conflict with the fundamental rights of others.”

    More at: https://www.dailywire.com/news/briti...-human-dignity
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We need a spiritual awakening in America or our culture will die and our country will be destroyed, that's the point of this thread.
    The Founders argued that the Constitution was not written for an immoral people. So this has to be dealt with before we take back anything. The moral bankruptcy has to be admitted to and dealt with just as we have to deal with the financial bankruptcy. --Dr. Ron Paul
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...comment_stream
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LGBT Activists Hate Christianity — and Want to Destroy It
    ...
    There can be no truce, culture must drive them back in the closet or they will destroy us.

    Looks like they 'hate' Christian GOP leader and current VP Mike Pence too:


    LGBTQ people have a lot at stake in Donald Trump’s impeachment

    Thursday, September 26, 2019
    LGBTQ equality could be affected by the result of the impeachment inquiry that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) opened earlier this week.
    The U.S. House of Representatives has started the process to potentially remove Donald Trump from office following reports of a whistleblower in the U.S. intelligence community. The anonymous official has accused Trump of pressuring Ukraine’s new government to investigate Democratic presidential hopeful Joe Biden’s family.
    If the House votes to impeach and 2/3 of the Senate votes to remove Trump from office, LGBTQ equality hangs in the balance.
    In one possible outcome, Congress only removes Trump from office and Mike Pence succeeds him.

    Pence has a long and deep history of working against the LGBTQ population’s interests. He opposed any legislation to advance equality when he was a member of the House, then as the governor of Indiana, and again as vice president.
    Even Trump reportedly joked about how anti-LGBTQ Pence is, saying that Pence “wants to hang them all.”

  16. #134
    Swordsmyth, do you stand with or against this actor on this issue?



    Actor fired over ‘homophobic’ comments plans to sue for religious discrimination

    Christian star intends to take theatre and former agents to court for breach of contract and religious discrimination


    • Ellie Harrison
    • Tuesday 1 October 2019


    Actor Seyi Omooba has said she is planning to sue a theatre and her former agents after she was fired from the play The Color Purple over a “homophobic” Facebook post.

    In March, Omooba was given a starring role as Celie – whose relationship with another woman is a central part of the story – in a stage adaptation of Alice Walker’s novel set to run in Birmingham and Leicester.

    The actor was then dropped by both the Curve theatre in Leicester and her agents, Global Artists, after Hamilton star Aaron Lee Lambert resurfaced a Facebook post Omooba had written in September 2014.

    Omooba had told Christians to “tell the truth” about homosexuality in her post, writing: “It is clearly evident in I Corinthians vi, 9-11 what the Bible says on this matter. I do not believe you can be born gay, and I do not believe homosexual practice is right.”

    She also wrote that Christians “have begun to twist the word of God” when it comes to the acceptance of homosexuality.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-a9127386.html

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  20. #137
    it's a good thing LGBT people got the right to vote
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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  21. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    There can be no truce, culture must drive them back in the closet or they will destroy us.
    GOP-Progressive (Adelson) wing leader seems to be making truce with powerful court decision made by his CFR SCOTUS pick that gives "them" a huge historic win, are you still in no-truce camp?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OUQG7d_Tpc

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  23. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    GOP-Progressive (Adelson) wing leader seems to be making truce with powerful court decision made by his CFR SCOTUS pick that gives "them" a huge historic win, are you still in no-truce camp?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OUQG7d_Tpc

    @Swordsmyth you've been had. Sorry...not sorry.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  24. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post

    @Swordsmyth you've been had. Sorry...not sorry.
    You've been had and Trump was had by Gorsuch.

    Trump has rolled back the weirdosexual agenda consistently since he was elected.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  25. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You've been had and Trump was had by Gorsuch.

    Trump has rolled back the weirdosexual agenda consistently since he was elected.
    Did you see he response the this SCOTUS ruling? It wasn't "We need to amend the 1964 civil rights act to clarify that sex means gender." It was "Well I guess that's that." You've been had. I have no expectations of Trump so I can't be disappointed. Actually I'm happy with the HBCU money, the completion of Obama's rolling back the racist 1993 Clinton crime bill, forgiving Katrina debt etc.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  26. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Did you see he response the this SCOTUS ruling? It wasn't "We need to amend the 1964 civil rights act to clarify that sex means gender." It was "Well I guess that's that." You've been had. I have no expectations of Trump so I can't be disappointed. Actually I'm happy with the HBCU money, the completion of Obama's rolling back the racist 1993 Clinton crime bill, forgiving Katrina debt etc.
    I did, Kavanaugh ruled the right way, we need 2 or 3 more Trump picks for SCOTUS.
    Gorsuch has been very good on a number of issues but HE betrayed us NOT Trump.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  27. #144
    Who would have thought that Gorsuch would suck more than Kavanaugh? Textualist my ass.
    NeoReactionary. American High Tory.

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  30. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ...Trump was had by Gorsuch.

    ...
    US Embassy in Russia seems to have been 'had by Gorsuch' also:

    June 27, 2020
    US embassy defiantly unfurls Pride flag as Russia prepares to vote to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman
    The US embassy in Moscow, Russia has raised a Pride flag in clear defiance of an upcoming vote that will effectively stop same-sex marriage


    BTW, do you support Putin's or Trump's stance on LGBT issue?

    Putin mocks U.S. embassy for flying LGBT flag
    His comments followed a nationwide vote on constitutional reforms that included an amendment enshrining the definition of marriage specifically as a union between a man and a woman.
    Putin said the U.S. embassy’s move to raise the LGBT pride flag “revealed something about the people that work there”.
    “It’s no big deal though. We have spoken about this many times, and our position is clear,” said Putin, who has sought to distance Russia from liberal Western values and aligned himself with the Russian Orthodox Church.

  31. #147
    There definitely is an anti-Christian sentiment considering they want to keep churches closed during this coronavirus pandemic.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  32. #148
    Donald Trump On The Issues :
    Extend Civil Rights Act to apply to gays and lesbians. (Aug 2016)


    Another major pro LGBTQ civil rights step by Hallmark following recent SCOTUS ruling and ahead of Christmas 2020.
    At this point, there is no news report saying that US Embassy in Moscow and other world capitols are being instructed by Trump adminstration to send out such inclusive cards for coming Christmas parties.






    Hallmark will now feature LGBTQ stories in Christmas movies


    By Kiely Westhoff
    July 24, 2020




    A Zola commercial showing a lesbian couple getting married, which Hallmark declined to air in 2019.

    (CNN)When the Hallmark Channel holiday movies air later this year, the annual "Countdown to Christmas" and "Miracles of Christmas" lineups will include LGBTQ narratives.

    The holiday season will bring 40 new movies but the ones with LGBTQ storylines are making headlines right now. Producers say they are in "active negotiations" and that "more details" are on the way.

    The announcement came days after the channel was bombarded with online criticism for teasing a slate of new Christmas movies that appeared to lack LGBTQ inclusion.

    Supreme Court says federal law protects LGBTQ workers from discrimination

    Hallmark responded to frustrated viewers by assuring them that new content will reflect their demands for better LGBTQ
    cnn.com/2020/07/24/entertainment/hallmark-lgbtq-christmas-movies-trnd/index.html

  33. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

  34. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post

    Donald Trump On The Issues :
    Extend Civil Rights Act to apply to gays and lesbians. (Aug 2016)
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post




    That jibjab meme crearly crosses the line and potentially could undermines alpha MAGA image, adding this inspirational tank meme for restoring balance and to point out that his LGBTQ Civil Rights activism does not make Trump non-alpha.

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