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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Robert089 View Post
    Charles Kupperman will be the interim NSC. Hopefully he will get confirmed as he was very close to Bolton's ideology and was instrumental in getting the US to leave the Iran deal. Hopefully pressure against Iran will steadily increase, along with support for Israel, America's closest ally in the world.
    Bolton's public image has been tarnished, I think the deep state needed to put a fresh face to old evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Remember when you told us that Bolton had changed because Cernovich told you so in a PornHub video?
    You didn't see any hint of sarcasm in there anywhere?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Robert089 View Post
    Charles Kupperman will be the interim NSC. Hopefully he will get confirmed as he was very close to Bolton's ideology and was instrumental in getting the US to leave the Iran deal. Hopefully pressure against Iran will steadily increase, along with support for Israel, America's closest ally in the world.
    +rep, it seems like some of the trump fan boys have already started attacking you for daring to speak the truth. Trump seems to have replaced a known Israeli firster, neocon, zionist, hawk with an unknown Israeli firster, neocon , zionist, hawk. This proves that he did not fires Bolton for the reasons people on this had would have wanted.

    This is an excerpts from an articles written about him when he was hired.

    Mr. Bolton appeared to be fortifying what amounted to the most hard-line approach towards Iran in an administration that was already determined to bring Iran to its knees by elevating Charles M. Kupperman, a long-time associate, and former Reagan administration official, to deputy National Security Adviser.

    Mr. Kupperman, a former Boeing, and Lockheed Martin executive, previously served on the board for the Center for Security Policy, a far-right think tank advocating for a hawkish Iran policy founded by Frank Gaffney, a former US government official who is widely viewed as an Islamophobe and conspiracy theorist.

    Similarly, Mr. Trump, reportedly on Mr. Bolton’s advice, hired this month Richard Goldberg as the National Security Council’s director for countering Iranian weapons of mass destruction.
    https://intpolicydigest.org/2019/01/...an-hardliners/

    Have a dialogue with the man, debate him instead of trying to undermine him with the rep system.
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

  6. #34
    Thank you President Trump!
    I'm proud that you fired this son of a bitch!

  7. #35
    Good riddance.

    What other administration would have done this?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I wonder who will replace him? Henry Kissinger?
    John Foster Dulles
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Good riddance.

    What other administration would have done this?
    SS, it looks liike you were right. You've been saying the withdrawal will happen no matter what

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    SS, it looks liike you were right. You've been saying the withdrawal will happen no matter what
    Hopefully this will also help with N. Korea.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  11. #39
    I have a feeling Douglas MacGregor is in play.

  12. #40

    re: Bolton

    Rand Paul coming up on Neil Cavuto's show (Fox news - 4PM eastern).



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Rand Paul coming up on Neil Cavuto's show (Fox news - 4PM eastern).
    And making sense.

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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Interesting that it's the day before 9/11 anniversary.
    Uh no , that is Patriot Day or what is called Oyarde Day here .
    Do something Danke

  17. #44
    Unreliable sources not very close to the White House state that Trump has narrowed it down to two people. It is a toss up between Charles Krauthammer and John McCain.
    Truth is Fallacy, Fallacy is Evil.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Uh no , that is Patriot Day or what is called Oyarde Day here .
    Trump should replace Bolton with Oyarde.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  19. #46
    Bolton's mad.
    ..."I offered to resign last night and President Trump said, 'Let's talk about it tomorrow,'" Bolton wrote, slightly contradicting Mr. Trump's account that he had asked for Bolton's resignation.

    And Bolton, who was a Fox News contributor before he took the administration job, also appears to be taking issue with the president's version of his departure. He texted Fox News anchor Brian Kilmeade, "Let's be clear — I resigned." He also texted Washington Post reporter Robert Costa, "I will have my say in due course."

    A person close to Bolton told CBS News' Margaret Brennan that Bolton did indeed offer to resign Monday night, and the president said the two should talk about it Tuesday, although that conversation did not ultimately occur. This person told Brennan that Bolton did submit a letter and characterized it as a very brief letter, not a "diatribe."

    The source defended Bolton's service in the Trump administration, asserting that in the last 17 months — the duration of his tenure — there have been "no bad deals," telling Brennan that Bolton weighed in significantly on Afghanistan, Iran, North Korea, Russia, China, Syria and Turkey.

    The White House will not be issuing an additional statement beyond Mr. Trump's tweet for now. White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham reaffirmed to reporters that Mr. Trump asked for Bolton's resignation letter Tuesday night. She also confirmed that Bolton is not currently at the White House...

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-f...e-white-house/

  20. #47
    HAHAHJAHAHA

    Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) defended outgoing national security adviser John Bolton on Tuesday, calling his firing a “huge loss.”

    "His view was not always the same as everybody else in the room. That’s why you wanted him there. The fact that he was a contrarian from time to time is an asset not a liability,” Romney told reporters Tuesday after the president tweeted that Bolton had been fired.

    “I’m very very unhappy to hear that he’s leaving. It is a huge loss for the administration in my opinion and for the nation,” Romney added.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...oss-for-nation

  21. #48
    NeoReactionary. American High Tory.

    The counter-revolution will not be televised.



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  23. #49
    I didn't think this action would trigger anybody here except some of the usual resident RPF TDS suffering mental patients, and I was right.
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  24. #50
    First thought,, Cool, and good riddance.

    who he will be replaced with is concerning.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  25. #51
    Replace neocons with Libertarians and you won't have this revolving door of stupidity.
    Et cognoscetis veritatem et veritas liberabit vos

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    First thought,, Cool, and good riddance.

    who he will be replaced with is concerning.
    Another amazing candidate highly qualified for the job. He only hires the best!
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

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  27. #53
    It takes some people a bit longer to figure things out.


    Good on Rand, for whatever influence he may have had:


    Gulag Chief:
    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
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  28. #54
    Will McMaster be back? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...aster-n1051996

    As frustration with Bolton mounted, Trump reached out to ex-adviser McMaster

    In phone calls to McMaster, Trump told his second national security adviser that he missed him.

    WASHINGTON — As President Donald Trump began losing confidence in national security adviser John Bolton, whom he fired on Tuesday, he reached out to the man he had fired to give Bolton the job: retired Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster.

    In phone calls to McMaster — the first of which took place last fall — Trump told his second national security adviser that he missed him, according to two people familiar with the conversations. It’s a sentiment the president has also expressed to White House aides, they said. Trump has solicited McMaster's advice on various national security challenges, even asking McMaster whom he should nominate to lead the Pentagon, they said.

    Trump's contacts with McMaster perhaps presaged his decision Tuesday to unceremoniously fire Bolton. They also were a remarkable shift for the president that is emblematic of how much Bolton fell out of favor since Trump welcomed him into the White House 17 months ago. At that time, Trump was barely speaking to McMaster and regularly did derogatory impressions of him in his absence, according to current and former White House officials.

    Like Bolton, McMaster’s firing was also hasty and announced publicly by the president on Twitter. Bolton later said he had resigned and was not fired. Trump's patience for Bolton ultimately wore thin; aides say Trump was close to firing Bolton earlier this year, even putting his name on a list of officials he'd like to get rid of before the end of the year, after which such moves might have a negative effect on his re-election campaign, officials said.
    Trump's phone calls to McMaster began in the fall of 2018, about six months after Bolton had taken the job. The most recent call that the people familiar with the conversations knew of was a few months ago.

    In another conversation in late spring, when Trump was unsure about his choice of then-Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan to permanently hold the job, the president wanted to know what McMaster thought he should do. At the time, Trump was asking his advisers inside and outside the White House for alternatives to Shanahan, and he ultimately switched to nominate Mark Esper, who was confirmed by the Senate.
    Still, the president's outreach to McMaster surprised the people closest to him. "He must be getting pretty far down on his call list because McMaster is not at the top," another former White House official said.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-10-2019 at 04:41 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    More anonymous garbage.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    More anonymous garbage.
    You seem grumpy today. Everything OK at home? The hours at work getting to you? Not enough respect?
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-10-2019 at 04:34 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.



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  32. #57
    i would bet trump's wife and daughter had a lot to do with bolton being fired , what women in her right mind could stand that clown.

    rand paul would be great

    i would add , who ever advised trump to pick bolton should also be fired .
    Last edited by ILUVRP; 09-10-2019 at 04:50 PM.

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Good job for Rand especially if he in not seeking reelection.
    What did Rand have to do with Bolton being fired?

  34. #59

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    What did Rand have to do with Bolton being fired?
    Rand has spoken out against Bolton, and Rand's opinion is supposedly sometimes respected by Trump.

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