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    Van Packed With A 1,000 Gallons Of Gas Found Ahead Of Trump's Visit To Baltimore

    Baltimore City Police and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives are now investigating a van loaded with 1,000 gallons of gasoline in a parking garage in downtown Baltimore City. The van was found near the area of where President Trump is expected to visit Thursday, reported The Baltimore Sun.
    A police spokesperson told The Sun that they received a call at 11:02 am about a suspicious van in a parking garage at 100 E. Pratt St., which is home to T. Rowe Price and PricewaterhouseCoopers.
    Around noon, emergency crews expanded the evacuations zone across the inner Harbor to include The Gallery shopping mall, the Renaissance Baltimore Harborplace and Brookshire Suites hotels.
    T. Rowe Price employees have confirmed they've been sent home for the day -- many are shook-up at what could have been a possible terrorist attack ahead of President Trump's visit. Officials haven't yet confirmed if terrorism was involved, but packing 1,000 gallons of gasoline into a van is certainly suspicious.
    About one hour ago (1:30 pm), Light Street was evacuated.
    The Sun provides several accounts of what's happening on the ground:
    Baltimore's Inner Harbor area across from the building was scattered with people dressed in business clothes after the evacuation. Many were clustered together talking, wondering aloud about what's going on. One woman said many people were just using this time to take their regular lunch hour. Several people walked up to crime scene tape, trying to get a view of what's going on in the several block radius.
    Erik Williams was working at his desk inside 814 Light St. when his Human Resources director came up and told him there was an emergency on Pratt Street. The 25-year-old was curious to know what was going on so he and a friend decided to grab lunch in the area. But now, they can't get back to their office because it's part of the crime scene. Williams said the incident is also a "coincidence" for how close it falls to the anniversary of Sept. 11.
    "It's a little overwhelming and certainly concerning," said Williams, who works in Exelon's human resources department.
    The Baltimore City Department of Transportation tweeted a map of the evacuation zone.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...isit-baltimore
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    Zerohedge does like to over-hype things. This is the actual article from the Zerohedge link: https://www.baltimoresun.com/marylan...h5m-story.html

    It only had 80 gallons of suspected stolen fuel in it. Trump is not due in Baltimore for two more days. He is not at risk from the van.

    Suspicious van filled with bins of gasoline was found to be harmless after evacuations in downtown Baltimore

    Baltimore emergency officials evacuated a large area of downtown Monday after an unoccupied van loaded with containers of possibly stolen gasoline was discovered in the parking garage of one of the city’s most venerable companies, officials said.

    The widespread evacuation of T. Rowe Price Group and other firms in several high rise buildings downtown snarled traffic, sparked Sept. 11 anxiety and transformed the heart of the city’s business and tourist district into a crime scene tied off with yellow tape.

    But a police robot that entered the 15-passenger van with blacked out windows did not discover a bomb. Instead, it found a device used for stealing diesel fuel and two bins full of possibly stolen fuel, police said. Several city officials said they were told the van contained approximately 1,000 gallons of gasoline, but a spokesman for the Maryland Department of the Environment later said about 80 gallons of diesel fuel was offloaded from the vehicle.
    Trump recently called Baltimore a "a disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess." and a "dangerous and filthy place" in a tweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Zerohedge does like to over-hype things. This is the actual article from the Zerohedge link: https://www.baltimoresun.com/marylan...h5m-story.html

    It only had 80 gallons of suspected stolen fuel in it. Trump is not due in Baltimore for two more days. He is not at risk from the van.



    Trump recently called Baltimore a "a disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess." and a "dangerous and filthy place" in a tweet.

    That's a nice coverup job they have going.
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    Leave it to they lyin Trumpkin mainstream media to make a big assassination conspiracy out of a truck with 80 gallons of diesel fuel. They'll try anything keep the illusion of Maverick Trump alive.

    No one is gonna waste 80 gallons of diesel on Donnell.
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    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Leave it to they lyin Trumpkin mainstream media to make a big assassination conspiracy out of a truck with 80 gallons of diesel fuel. They'll try anything keep the illusion of Maverick Trump alive.

    No one is gonna waste 80 gallons of diesel on Donnell.
    I'm glad you have such faith in the Demoncrats in Baltimore and the MSM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm glad you have such faith in the Demoncrats in Baltimore and the MSM.
    Let us know when you figure out how to assassinate the president with 80 gallons of diesel fuel.
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    How do you get 1K gallons of gas in a van ?
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Let us know when you figure out how to assassinate the president with 80 gallons of diesel fuel.
    Your faith is so great that you assume they are telling the truth in the coverup.

    Bravo!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    How do you get 1K gallons of gas in a van ?
    Start with a magical van.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Your faith is so great that you assume they are telling the truth in the coverup.

    Bravo!.
    Tell us your theory, Sherlock. Is it that there really was 1000 gallons of gas in a van?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Tell us your theory, Sherlock. Is it that there really was 1000 gallons of gas in a van?
    It's hard to tell, initial reports can be exaggerated but not this much.

    There was undoubtedly enough to cause a big explosion and it may very well have been part of an assassination attempt against Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's hard to tell, initial reports can be exaggerated but not this much.
    It's very possible to tell, because as @oyarde alluded to, it's not feasible to get a van - any van - to hold a thousand gallons of fuel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    There was undoubtedly enough to cause a big explosion and it may very well have been part of an assassination attempt against Trump.
    Only one problem, Einstein: diesel doesn't explode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    How do you get 1K gallons of gas in a van ?
    The Chrysler Pacifica minivan has 140.5 cubic feet of storage space behind the front row.
    1 US fluid gallon = 0.133680556 cubic feet
    140.5cubic ft/.1336805556 = 1051.01298351871 gallons

    glad I could assist with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It's very possible to tell, because as @oyarde alluded to, it's not feasible to get a van - any van - to hold a thousand gallons of fuel.
    That depends.
    And I said it may have been exaggerated.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Only one problem, Einstein: diesel doesn't explode.
    It was Gasoline and if it was part of a bomb it probably had explosives to set it off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Math is racist.
    I know, that's why I force my kid to practice it every day. He was in the "hall of fame" in his class last year. Could do the entire 10x10 tables for addition, subtraction, multiplication, division at 2seconds or less per problem with 100% accuracy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Math is racist.
    And Orange Man is bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    The Chrysler Pacifica minivan has 140.5 cubic feet of storage space behind the front row.
    1 US fluid gallon = 0.133680556 cubic feet
    140.5cubic ft/.1336805556 = 1051.01298351871 gallons

    glad I could assist with that.
    Amazing , All I could picture is someone stacking about 20 5 gallon cans in there and it being half full.
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Amazing , All I could picture is someone stacking about 20 5 gallon cans in there and it being half full.
    Well if you really wanna blow some $#@! up, you gotta think outside the box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Amazing , All I could picture is someone stacking about 20 5 gallon cans in there and it being half full.
    Specs has neanderthal privilege.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    The Chrysler Pacifica minivan has 140.5 cubic feet of storage space behind the front row.
    1 US fluid gallon = 0.133680556 cubic feet
    140.5cubic ft/.1336805556 = 1051.01298351871 gallons

    glad I could assist with that.
    Chrysler Pacifica
    gross weight:6005 lbs
    Curb weight: 4330 lbs

    6005 - 4330 = 1675 lbs cargo capacity


    A thousand gallons of diesel is seven thousand pounds of fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I know, that's why I force my kid to practice it every day. He was in the "hall of fame" in his class last year. Could do the entire 10x10 tables for addition, subtraction, multiplication, division at 2seconds or less per problem with 100% accuracy.
    That said, in a standard van, you'd bottom out and bust the suspension if you tried it.

    1051 gallons of gas X 6.073 pounds per gallon at standard density comes to 6382 pounds.

    ETA - Yah I see Willie Wonka beat me to it.

    Still, that's a smart boy there.

    Good job dad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Chrysler Pacifica
    gross weight:6005 lbs
    Curb weight: 4330 lbs

    6005 - 4330 = 1675 lbs cargo capacity


    A thousand gallons of diesel is seven thousand pounds of fuel.
    Gas not diesel.
    Gas weighs about six pounds per gallon so it would be about 6,000 pounds.
    It could have been less than 1,000 gallons and they could have overloaded the van.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Chrysler Pacifica
    gross weight:6005 lbs
    Curb weight: 4330 lbs
    6005 - 4330 = 1675 lbs cargo capacity
    A thousand gallons of diesel is seven thousand pounds of fuel.
    And? that wasn't the question I answered. The question was "How do you get 1K gallons of gas in a van ?"
    I answered that question.

    As to you, I guess its impractical to upgrade the suspension of a van? Or that the van used wasn't a minivan but a commercial model with a higher weight capacity?
    And the max weight capacity, that's for practical driving purposes, not "hey, lets fill this $#@!er up to the brim, cuz we are gonna blow it sky high and don't care if we blow out its suspension because its going to kingdom come in 2 days.

    for all any of us know, it could have been parked in place, then loaded after already parked. maybe that's why it was noticed because it was so low to the ground.
    Last edited by specsaregood; 09-09-2019 at 09:39 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Gas not diesel.
    Gas weighs about six pounds per gallon so it would be about 6,000 pounds.
    It could have been less than 1,000 gallons and they could have overloaded the van.
    Oh so it might have only been 5000 lbs of fuel in a van... Plus an explosive, plus a driver...

    When people figure out that magical Trumpkin vans can move so much cargo, they'll make trucks obsolete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    And? that wasn't the question I answered. The question was "How do you get 1K gallons of gas in a van ?"
    I answered that question.

    As to you, I guess its impractical to upgrade the suspension of a van? Or that the van used wasn't a minivan but a commercial model with a higher weight capacity?
    And the max weight capacity, that's for practical driving purposes, not "hey, lets fill this $#@!er up to the brim, cuz we are gonna blow it sky high and don't care if we blow out its suspension because its going to kingdom come in 2 days.
    You aren't supposed to question his assumptions.
    You are exercising your neanderthal privilege again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Oh so it might have only been 5000 lbs of fuel in a van... Plus an explosive, plus a driver...

    When people figure out that magical Trumpkin vans can move so much cargo, they'll make trucks obsolete.
    ...
    Originally Posted by specsaregood

    As to you, I guess its impractical to upgrade the suspension of a van? Or that the van used wasn't a minivan but a commercial model with a higher weight capacity?
    And the max weight capacity, that's for practical driving purposes, not "hey, lets fill this $#@!er up to the brim, cuz we are gonna blow it sky high and don't care if we blow out its suspension because its going to kingdom come in 2 days.
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You are exercising your neanderthal privilege again.
    yeah, still waiting on my reparations from all the h0m0sapiens that killed my forefathers.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    for all any of us know, it could have been parked in place, then loaded after already parked. maybe that's why it was noticed because it was so low to the ground.
    You've got that backwards; random Trumpkins on the internet actually know better than the people who actually saw the van.

    Don't stop believing.
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    You've got that backwards; random Trumpkins on the internet actually know better than the people who actually saw the van.

    Don't stop believing.
    You are the one who is so trusting of the government (run by Demoncrats) and the MSM that you believe the coverup is more accurate than initial reports.
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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