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    Trump wants to cut Medicare and Social Security

    Republicans on Capitol Hill say Donald Trump may be willing to cut Social Security and Medicare if he wins in 2020, reportedly describing the potential move as a “second-term project”.
    Several senators told the New York Times in a report published this week they spoke to the president about reducing the costs of the federal health care and retirement programs — a move that would likely stir controversy in a presidential election season.
    Republicans have said cutting both programs is crucial to reducing the nation’s deficit, which has ballooned under Mr Trump thanks, in part, to the GOP tax bill passed in 2017.
    Senator John Barrasso, a Republican from Wyoming, described the process of cutting the costs of social security and medicare to the New York Times as “best done during divided government”.
    “We’ve brought it up with President Trump,” he added, “who has talked about out it being a second-term project.”
    Senator John Thune, a Republican from South Dakota, also told the newspaper that reducing the costs of the federal programs would require “presidential leadership” and “courage by the Congress to make some hard votes”.
    “We can’t keep kicking the can down the road,” he said, adding: “I hope in a second term, [Mr Trump] is interested. With his leadership, I think we could start dealing with that crisis. And it is a crisis.”

    Senator David Perdue, a Republican from Georgia, told the paper “it probably takes a second-term president” to begin working on the issue, adding: “It’s politically difficult to say you’re going to save Social Security, because most people think, well that means cutting benefits.”

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/trump-tells-r...162457862.html
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    Medicare & Social Security are unconstitional.
    Trump should block grant Medicare & Social Security back to the states!

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    Republicans on Capitol Hill say Donald Trump may be willing to cut Social Security and Medicare if he wins in 2020, reportedly describing the potential move as a “second-term project”.
    "The rule is, jam tomorrow and jam yesterday – but never jam today."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    "The rule is, jam tomorrow and jam yesterday – but never jam today."
    Speaking of which, at the bottom of the OP article, there is the following link: Read more Dying ALS patient delivers passionate Medicade-for-All speech

    The link is to an article published a few months ago titled "Ady Barkan: Dying ALS patient delivers passionate speech on first day of Medicare-for-All hearings" (with the tagline "Ady Barkan delivered his speech to Congess using a text-to-voice programme").

    So that is what is being spread on our toast today - while Trump & Co. futz around with speculative happy-talk about "potential moves" and "second-term projects" ...
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 08-24-2019 at 08:07 AM.

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    “We can’t keep kicking the can down the road,” he said, adding: “I hope in a second term, [...]
    SMGDH ... do these bozos even pay any attention at all to the words that come out of their mouths ... ?
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 08-24-2019 at 08:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Republicans on Capitol Hill say
    Don't you require confirmation of things like this?


    Also, lol, the "only if you re-elect me" promises are beginning awfully early, don't you think?
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    How much of medicare is fraud , 20 percent ? There should be a plan of action to cut that now .
    Do something Danke

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    Like thats ever going to happen.
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    Mods, could the thread title be changed to something more accurate, like, "According to a baseless anonymous rumor Trump might be willing to cut Social Security and Medicare if he wins in 2020"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Mods, could the thread title be changed to something more accurate, like, "According to a baseless anonymous rumor Trump might be willing to cut Social Security and Medicare if he wins in 2020"?
    It's strange that Swordsmyth changed the title from the title of the article, don't you think? The article's title is much more accurate and objective, whereas Swordsmyth's title is at best a complete fabrication and at worst an outright lie.

    Trump tells Republicans he may begin cutting social security and Medicare if he wins in 2020
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It's strange that Swordsmyth changed the title from the title of the article, don't you think? The article's title is much more accurate and objective, whereas Swordsmyth's title is at best a complete fabrication and at worst an outright lie.

    Well, that is after all his raison d'etre, is it not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Don't you require confirmation of things like this?


    Also, lol, the "only if you re-elect me" promises are beginning awfully early, don't you think?
    Besides, Congress will have to decide how much money they get- not Trump. Trump also once said he favored national health insurance "I know this will get me in trouble with Republicans but...".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Don't you require confirmation of things like this?


    Also, lol, the "only if you re-elect me" promises are beginning awfully early, don't you think?
    In this case I have two Senators confirming what Trump said to them as opposed to "anonymous sources".
    Trump may not go through with this but he is telling people he wants to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Besides, Congress will have to decide how much money they get- not Trump. Trump also once said he favored national health insurance "I know this will get me in trouble with Republicans but...".
    If I remember correctly, didn't Romney promise that too?

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    In this case I have two Senators confirming what Trump said to them as opposed to "anonymous sources".
    Trump may not go through with this but he is telling people he wants to do it.
    Do you generally accept anything that a senator says as fact?
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    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Do you generally accept anything that a senator says as fact?
    More than "anonymous sources".
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    It's yet another "Trump considering" thread with different words.

    Look at all that tribalism.

    *shakes head*



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