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Thread: Where is "convicted felons can't own guns" in the constitution?

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    No..... the rights should be denied based on the crime. White collar crime shouldn't involve removing someone's rtkba. You should only have your rtkba removed if you have proven yourself to be violent and/or especially if a firearm was used in the commission of a crime (robbing a bank). Or if you are adjudicated mentally ill or incompetent by a court of law with full due process (not red flag laws).
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    My guess is that if they can't use a gun to commit a violent act (considering a violent past) ,
    they will use another tool should they decide to become violent again.
    A musket hanging on the mantle is "Using and carrying a firearm during the commission of a felony" under federal law.

    Real people/common sense does not apply to laws, how they are worded, enforced or interpreted by the courts.

    Given that...............Better all free men armed than one who needs to be forced by fiat to be unarmed.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Depends on the crime and severity.
    What about shooting the man that Raped your Wife..??

    I knew a man doing 40 for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    What about shooting the man that Raped your Wife..??

    I knew a man doing 40 for it.
    If he was caught in the act and it was self defense, then yes.

    After the fact, no. Vigilante justice isn't really acceptable in an ideal world.... the worst criminals out there are still owed due process, fair trial, etc. You can't just murder someone because they committed an atrocious act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    If he was caught in the act and it was self defense, then yes.

    After the fact, no. Vigilante justice isn't really acceptable in an ideal world.... the worst criminals out there are still owed due process, fair trial, etc. You can't just murder someone because they committed an atrocious act.
    Justifiable Homicide.
    I have seen a Judge rule so once..

    Several men are inside walls for Justifiable self defense. as well as many innocent of what they are accused.

    the system is well beyond phucked.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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